OnPathToSikhi

What happens after you become one with the One?

In reality, you(I) become zero.

What happens after you become one with the One?

If there is still an expectation of something 'happening' after one is one with Waheguru, then that would be desire.

What happens when one is fully immersed?

Then one is one with The One.

Yes

Cool.

What does it mean to believe in Waheguru?

It means to immerse oneself in Waheguru's name, in Gurbani.

What does it mean to believe in Waheguru?

You mean the One True Formless Waheguru?

Waheguru helps you be a human? How does He do that?

By helping me believe in only One True Formless Waheguru.

There are countless forms of Waheguru.

Wrong.

What does it mean to be a form? as you are one. Where does Waheguru fit into your experience of being a form?

For me it means to be a human. Waheguru helps me being one.

The reality is that only once you understand simple concepts will you be able to understand bigger ones.

Agreed. But we need to start somewhere. So you tell me how many 'forms of Waheguru' and we continue.

And I am not wasting my time explaining bigger ones when you can't even bat on the smaller ones.

Another excuse.

Ok Strike 3, you're out bro. You need more practice with your batting.

I see that as an excuse for not being able to answer.

I know what you are. Try to answer the questions that I am asking.

What does it mean to be a form? as you are one. Where does Waheguru fit into your experience of being a form?

You tell me how many 'forms of Waheguru' and I give you your answer.

Your form.

My form is that of a human being.

Form is something that is definable. Something with attributes, dimensions etc.

'I' am just a 'maati ka paanda'.

So now you are talking about 'Waheguru fit into'?

Questioning my question is not your answer. I am asking is when you say 'a form of Waheguru', what form are you talking about? How may different form?

Where does Waheguru fit into that experience of being a form?

So now you are talking about 'Waheguru fit into'?

One wrong creates another wrong. Carry on.

Think about what it means to be a form, as you are one.

'I' am just a 'maati ka paanda'.

You are diverting from my question.

Coming back to my question:

What other 'forms' of 'Waheguru' you think there are, since you are of that opinion.

What does it mean to be a form?

Form is something that is definable. Something with attributes, dimensions etc.

a form of Waheguru.

Let us just discuss on this to drive home the point so that we know where you (and others) stand and what is my understanding.

Others can chime in if they feel so.

So when you are saying a 'form' of waheguru, what other 'forms' of 'Waheguru' do you believe in?

I already explained using a lengthy example and with several posts. Other members chimed in with their understanding. You said you didn't understand any of us, so now it's your turn to explain what you don't understand and what you think of this situation.. in more than a few sentences.

The ball is now in your court brother.

I will try to put forward a few points, if that will help you understand better.

• Most prominent issue. Should anyone be quoting Gurbani for petty political gains. No!
• Was the Gurbani context skewed when it was quoted. Yes. This could be a mischief caused by putting pressure on sidhu that we possibly do not understand.
• Did is happen on some one-one discussion. No it happened at political rally.
• Is if OK to draw a parallel between some mythical character and our Guru? No!
• The mythical character is referring to 'Krishan'. He is not my or any Sikh's god and he is not 'Waheguru'.

Sidhu being a crowd entertainer, behaved in a rather stupid way. The only benefit of doubt could be given for his sheer stupidity.

I hope I have made myself clear.

Explain further.

I have done already. You are smart enough (I guess) to understand. Your turn to explain how you see the co-relation and why do you justify the clown sidhu quoting Gurbani for petty political gains, totally in a skewed context, to please his "hindu" political goons.

No, what you don't understand.

Well, that is also what I don't understand. And how it relates to Gurbani that you guys are hell bent in somehow proving, by your egoistical views and/or understanding.

Explain.

What? The bollywood soap opera :-) ?

Did you check spoilers?

Yes.

Get it now?

No.

why is media making such a hype?

@onpathtosikhi lets put it this way

person A's

a knight of england says to queen "i am your loyal servent"

now a bhiari bhaiya says to punjabi zamindar

"i am your loyal servent"

is bhaiya disrespecting the knights view?

no , he is simply using it to express his views for his master

I do not understand what you are trying to say.

Read Savinderpal Singh's reply he puts in the simplest terms possible.

I have read it and it does not make sense to me (no offence to Savinderpal).

Making a mockery of "dharam" might inspire you, not me.

Because you have no idea what Sidhu is talking about

What is he talking about? Kindly explain?

All I know is sidhu is bjp's clown. He is being transformed to another bitta.

you have no idea how the media influencing you.

Media is not influencing me.

You are not in a position to be making accusations.

Who is going to stop me?