This also applies to Sikhs

 

So many parallels with Punjab.  For instance the destruction of our indigenous culture and language by British colonials.

The massive amount of missionary schools that are converting Sikhs, that no one is talking about.  

That fact there are no history books written that expose the impact of colonialism on Sikhs.  

Biggest land owner in India is the church that got slltjis land by the British colonialist to convert the people.

4, 5 indian states are majority Christian.

On 6/22/2022 at 4:58 AM, shastarSingh said:

Hindus accuse Muslims of increasing population which is true. But there is a Hindu poor daily labourer in my village in UP. His name is Rishipal. He was mad about having a boy child and in this process has got 7 daughters. His wife died recently. He has married 2 of his daughters. 3 girls do some labour job and couple of them are too young to work. BJP govt. provides them 40 kg of wheat/rice etc.  free of cost every month which is a good thing govt. is doing.

But why this obsession with boy child? Girl child is so cute and girls these days can do any job that a man is doing like army, police, doctor lawyer etc.

 

What does he think of Gurmat?  Have you given him any katha cds/videos or Gurmat books to him and his family?

Have you taken him to Gurdwara, what did he think or helped him financially?

24.  Daad Kamal Pargassaa

 

On 10/19/2022 at 10:12 PM, shastarSingh said:

https://gurmatbibek.com/forum/read.php?3,14277

 

Waheguru Ji

You can download the biography of Baba Ji from this link

https://www.sikhawareness.com/topic/20379-compiling-list-of-biographies-of-santsmahatamas/

 

Its number 26 titled Sajan Meray Ranglay--Jivan Sakhi Sant Balwant Singh Sidhsar Sihore Wale

Gurbani says

ਭੁਖਿਆ ਭੁਖ ਨ ਉਤਰੀ ਜੇ ਬੰਨਾ ਪੁਰੀਆ ਭਾਰ ॥

Bhukhiaa Bhukh N Outharee Jae Bannaa Pureeaa Bhaar ||

The hunger of the hungry departs not, even though they may pile up loads of the world's valuables.

 

Gurbani answers

ਅੰਤਰਿ ਤ੍ਰਿਸਨਾ ਭੁਖ ਹੈ ਮੂਰਖ ਭੁਖਿਆ ਮੁਏ ਗਵਾਰ ॥

Anthar Thrisanaa Bhukh Hai Moorakh Bhukhiaa Mueae Gavaar ||

Within them are desires and cravings and they, the ignorant fools, are starved to death.

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2 hours ago, hsingh6 said:

May I ask what is this previous reference to?

 

Waheguru Ji

Its referring to Anhad Shabd in Gurbani. Check topic below it goes in-depth into Anhad Shabd.

 

Navyug Publishers Delhi has published a collection of poems by the great Punjabi scholar Bhai Kahan Singh Nabha, , in book form under the title 'Gitanjali Harivrijesh'.

The book was edited and the meaning of the poems was explained by a scholar of Punjabi University, Patiala, Dr. Ravinder Kaur Ravi and Dr. Jagmail Singh Bhathuan.

It may be recalled that 'Gitanjali Harivrijesh' is a collection of ancient poems which Bhai Kahan Singh Nabha has been writing from time to time for various newspapers and magazines during his lifetime.

It is worth mentioning that Bhai Kahn Singh Nabha (1861-1938), a man of many talents, had a wide range of literary interests. However, he started his literary journey through poetry. In the early days of his life, Kahan Singh started writing humorous poems after learning how to compose poetry from Bhai Bhagwan Singh Duganwale and Bhai Vir Singh Jalalke. 'Gitanjali Harivrijesh' is an invaluable collection of Kahan Singh Nabha's poems. Ravinder Kaur Ravi and Dr. Jagmail Singh Bhathuan has preserved it in the book form.

 

 

 

 

Bhai Kahn Singh Nabha was a expert in Gurmat Sangeet.

 

Sangeetacharya Bhai Kahan Singh Nabha
by Dr Ravinder Kaur Ravi(Punjabi University ,Patiala)
ISBN-978-81-7599-285-6

This edition was published in 2014 by NAVYUG PUBLISHERS in Delhi.ISBN-978-81-7599-285-6
— 288 pages

Inner chatter during Simran

The problem with succeeding in detaching oneself from this inner chatter lies in the fact that, firstly, one is generally so identified with it that it proves difficult to be able to see it in a tangible way and, secondly, there exists a strange phenomenon in human beings, which is that they feel lost without these inner preoccupations. They react as though their lives were going to be empty without this incessant activity within them. Given that they live in ignorance of the other aspect of their double nature, they are irresistibly driven to lose themselves in feverish activities (inwardly and outwardly), which they depend upon to give them the feeling and the assurance that they exist. They are afraid of letting go of anything at all within themselves for fear of no longer being able to recognize themselves.

If one says to someone to let go of what he is inwardly ruminating upon, he might respond: “I cannot.” Should he not say instead: “I do not want to do so.”? Such “letting go” will inevitably create within him a void, which is the means allowing him to begin living outside time. However, if he finds himself suddenly confronted with the sentiment brought about by the fact of “living outside time”(a sensation that temporarily effaces his habitual state of being and his ordinary way of knowing himself), he feels lost, even afraid.

As long as a seeker does not yet know within himself the “center of gravity” that he must turn towards to give meaning to his life and to be able to stop the disordered manifestations of his mind, he will inevitably remain weak. As he will not be able to succeed in being, so to speak, “gathered” within himself, his energies will, despite himself, be scattered in all directions.

Once inner chatter has begun and the aspirant has given it credit and identified with it, if he tries to detach himself from it in order to put an end to it, something within him will obstinately refuse, insisting on first finishing what he is occupied in recounting to himself before consenting to let go. However, this uncontrolled process taking place within him will not stop at this stage. Indeed, unless he is wise enough to apprehend the long-term damage this involuntary discourse can cause within his being and try to put an end to it without any further delay, he will want to begin his monologue again in order to add an extra detail to what he initially wanted to say, something he thinks he has forgotten … and this will continue interminably.

By examining himself attentively, perhaps he will discover that most of this inner chatter (which is frequently associated with all sorts of imaginings) proves not only chimerical, aimless, and futile, but is also very often an attempt at justification designed to soothe a feeling of conscious or unconscious guilt resulting from a thoughtless action or word—a justification that may bear no relation to reality or the original situation.

Perhaps the seeker does not realize, at the beginning, what such a spiritual adventure involves by way of work and tenacious self-study, which are necessary to allow him to advance steadfastly in this difficult inner journey towards the Celestial Aspect of his double nature. So as to be able to free himself of these harmful obstacles that he encounters within him, he needs, at the beginning, to have some supports that he can lean on and, among these various supports, he can use the Nada (that particular sound that is audible inside the ears and the head, to which reference has previously been made) to shield himself from these undesirable voices within him.

*      *      *

Through in-depth self-study, the aspirant will come to see not only the futility of this inner chatter, but also its often negative character. Indeed, when he finds himself in the situation in or the presence of the person he imagined when these inner commentaries were taking place within him, he will discover, too late, that the action or the discourse he had prepared no longer corresponds to the reality of the moment and would even cause him problems subsequently if he persisted in wanting to implement it.

If this inner chatter is about negative subjects, it may, if someone yields to it continually, become a self-destructive obsession (such as may be seen quite often in old people) and a source of suffering for him as well as for those who share his life or who work with him and who, in an ordinarily mysterious and incomprehensible way, are affected by the most intense thoughts and feelings he may secretly carry within him at a given moment.

Audio of Autobiography Gyani Sant Singh Maskeen. Part 1 and 2

Part 1

Part 2

 

 

Biography of Gyani Sant Singh Maskeen in book format can be found here. Along with other Sadhus.

https://www.sikhawareness.com/topic/20379-compiling-list-of-biographies-of-santsmahatamas/

 

On 10/26/2022 at 4:37 AM, ਰੂਪ ਢਿੱਲੋਂ said:

All I can say is that I have become addicted to write in my form of Punjabi and can't help writing...it is true that in my early years I fell in love with the Painti when I saw it in those Gurdwara Kaidas

Didn't you write Punjabi lessons for beginners?

Do you have link to them?

17 minutes ago, ਰੂਪ ਢਿੱਲੋਂ said:

Thanks. If you want I can collate them all here. It was normally Dalsingh100 doing that kind of stuff. I feel a bit arrogant to do that myself, which is why I haven't specifically done it like that. I had sent my Chita Te Kala to be made into an Audiobook but so far have not been told when and if that will be made available

 

Yes, please do

Dont know why it would be arrogant to collect all your work and put it in one place for easy access?  

On 9/20/2021 at 9:41 AM, ਰੂਪ ਢਿੱਲੋਂ said:

Years ago I started writing fiction in Punjabi instead of English. This is documented elsewhere. It has been an arduous journey as I have been learning as I went along. s to begin a literary movement. .

It seems all your works books/short stories/articles/audios are scattered on different websites.  

It might be good to have all the links to your work on one page.

By the way listened to the audio  book of yours you posted.  It was easy to understand and created a good scene with the way you used Punjabi words.

On 11/9/2022 at 5:27 AM, ਰੂਪ ਢਿੱਲੋਂ said:

In short the idea is not necessarily to create a different type of literary movement in terms of something like Modernism, Romanticism etc, but more like a unit of few like minded individuals with broadly the same goals, such as Beat Poets or Bloomsbury group. Only unlike the latter two we don't know each other or are physically too far away from each other to meet up. I would like to propose the Sikhawareness forum as the conduit of communication and organisation,

 

No leader or Pardaan is required. No ਫ਼ਰਕ should take place.  Despite my title of the post it does not mean we exclude people from the subcontinent, or Panjabis who are of different castes ( As Sikhs we fundamentally reject such crap anyhow) or even religions. Again as Sikhs unlike other religions we do not call  ours the true one. We accept all and tell a Hindu for example to be the best Hindu he can etc. Anyhow such like matters are to be discussed and have already been discussed under other relevant topics. So this means the Muslim majority who make up most Panjabis can partake if they wish. Though I personally prefer to promote the Gurmukhi writing system, we cannot be prejudice to other alphabets including Latin / English one.

 

If there is an appetite for this , this thread will soon show that, as it will if there is not.

 

My proposal is simple,

- Promotion of Reading Gurmukhi books and literature, whether religious / philosophical or Poetry  or fiction,

- Promotion of contemporary Panjabi language, in particular the way it has evolved outside Panjab ( India and Pakistan) for example in English Language countries. 

- Pride in our different format of Panjabi, be it due to lexicon, grammar or Style. And to write in its authentic voice primarily for our future generations but also to have some compromise to make it work for Panjabis from Panjab where in reality most readers are from.

- Experimenting in our own way with the language and style ( thus the proposed group title ਬਾਗ਼ੀ ਬੱਤੀ ( see link...You can join this group to discuss the same too... https://www.facebook.com/groups/362576490509036/  ).

- Creating our own literature

 

If people are interested let me know here. As there were only 5 Pyaray, I see no concern in worrying about getting more than that in numbers anyhow.

I long ago labelled my own style as ਵਿਚਿਤਰਵਾਦ as a mash up of typical English literature in areas as diverse as Sci-Fi and Fantasy . Magical realism and new type of sentence structure. Taht can be up for discussion, but no one has to follow that way of doing things

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Great idea.  Will you have these discussions only on facebook or also on this forum.  

It seems the internet has given a big boost to Punjabi literature.  Sites that host Punjabi literature old and new get alot of readers.  People generally have better access to Punjabi books now.

Dass tried to get a Punjabi section going on this forum but seems like people were not interested.  Maybe, we can try again. 
 

 

 

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3 hours ago, dalsingh101 said:

 

Are you retarded? How does that have any impact on what I'm saying about certain peasant jaats practicing apartheid at both ground, pend level and at Gurdwaras themselves. You're another moorakh in denial by the sounds of it. Anyone who has an ounce of integrity will admit to this. 

And it says a lot that I posted this video on SS 3 odd days ago, and they still haven't authorised it. That's how deep rooted the rot is. 

You totally missed what dass was saying.  Your making this only about jaat but the fact is jaat is only one component there are other factors that you should take into account like

Gurdwara Politics (committee infighting)

Ignorance of people

People taking advantage of people.

 In the previous topic. You posted a video of farmer having someone  who he made to work for free.

The farmer was clearly taking advantage of that poor person.  Thank Waheguru that people informed the sikh organization who got him out of that bad situation.  This didn't have anything to do with jaat. 

Dass is trying to say dont make everything into jaat issue.  When sometimes it isn't.  Just like how feminists make everything into men vs women.  Or other people black vs white.  You dont get to the truth of the matter by putting everything under a generic term.  

Everything should be separated and classified according to its correct category.

 
 

3 hours ago, dalsingh101 said:

Yep, and then the same people doing the exclusions, complain when people leave. What retards. 

Be skeptical of these conversion stories.  Hugh amount of money is coming from western countries to convert them to Christian's.
Also, Christian groups have been studying dharmic Faith's to find weakness to convert.

There was a story that one Christian college had 9 professors that specialize in hinduism.  Studying each sampradays to find how to convert them easily.

Books have written on how to convert Sikhs easily.  Saying that Sikhs are the easiest to convert because they lack any identity.  That's why the biggest growth is happening in punjab.

Already 4 states in india are Christian majority.  

4 hours ago, dalsingh101 said:

Makes me laugh (or more like cry), when certain fudhoos amongst us constantly harp on about not being Hindus but then act exactly like the worst of them in a Gurdwara of all places:

 

Dalit Christians accuse Indian Church of discrimination

A group of Dalit Christians in India's Tamil Nadu state have staged a protest ahead of the consecration of Bishop Arulselvam Rayappan in Salem.

The July 23 protest, organized by the Dalit Christian Liberation Movement (DCLM) in front of the District Collector’s Office in Salem, condemned the "untouchability" practiced in the country, particularly in Tamil Nadu.

More than 100 protesters also met the district collector and presented a memorandum complaining about the caste discrimination against Dalits in the Catholic Church.

They urged the government of Tamil Nadu and the federal government to take action to end discrimination against Dalit Christians.

“We have taken to the streets as our repeated demand to appoint bishops of Dalit origin in Tamil Nadu have failed. Our plight remains unheard and ignored by the hierarchy of the Catholic Church,” Mary John, president of the DCLM, told UCA News.

“We want the consecration of the new bishop, Arulselvam Rayappan, in Salem scheduled for Aug. 4 to be stopped until a Dalit archbishop and bishops are appointed in the remaining vacancies in Tamil Nadu and Pondicherry. The protesters demand Bishop Peter Abir of Sultanpet, the apostolic administrator of Pondicherry-Cuddalore Archdiocese, go back to his diocese.

“Nepotism and discrimination are happening, particularly in Tamil Nadu and Pondicherry, where only non-Dalit bishops and archbishops have been appointed during the past 15 years.

“There is only one Dalit bishop in the 18 Catholic dioceses in the region even though Dalits comprise about 75 percent of the Catholics here, making their representation negligible. This situation has continued for decades.”

The protesters also appealed to Pope Francis to intervene to end caste discrimination in the Indian Church.

The DCLM has been raising this issue for the past three decades with numerous letters and appeals to the Indian Catholic hierarchy and apostolic nuncios.

“We have been also constantly making representations to the Vatican. We took to public protests to show our agony and anger, hoping to raise the consciousness of the Church over caste injustice,” John said.

“During the past one year especially, we have staged more concerted public protests and street rallies because we realized that our silence, pious hope and prayerful appeals for decades have only been defeated. With all this we hoped that at least now our demand would be met with sensitivity and sensibility."

Bishop Sebastianappan Singaroyan of Salem told UCA News that “we came to know through the local newspaper that there was a small group protesting at the district collector’s office but more than that we have no other information.”

Father L. Sahayaraj, deputy secretary of the Tamil Nadu Bishops’ Council, told UCA News that he was not aware of any protest. Regarding the Dalit Christian issue, he said: “I have nothing to say on that subject.”

1. Are there any Sikh political theorists?  Who have come up with new theories in politics and have contributed to advancing political science? And what are the name of there works?

2.  Any Sikhs who made inventions that have helped humanity?

3.  Any name of Sikhs who have contributed to social science and what are the name of there works/books?

4.  Name of any Sikh who contributed to advancing any field of study?
 

Just looking for Sikhs who made major contribution to any particular field?  Please also name there works?

Pakistan: 102 Hindus in Sindh forced to take up Islam, temple converted to Mosque

Religious persecution and forced conversion continues unabated in the terror state of Pakistan. Despite repeated appeals by the Indian government, the Pakistani government has been doing little to save its religious minorities from the atrocities being meted out at them almost every other day. According to latest reports, 102 Hindus have been allegedly forcibly converted to Islam in the Golarchi district which falls under Badin district of Sindh province, Pakistan.

According to a report by Times Now, 102 Hindus who were forcefully converted, included men, women and children. This was not all, it has also been reported that all the idols of Hindu gods kept in a local temple were destroyed and the premises was converted into a mosque.

Forced conversions of Hindus in Pakistan

This is not the first time that such an incident has come to light. On May 17, in a viral video, a Hindu woman belonging to the Bheel tribe in Nasarpur village in Matiari in the Sindh province of Pakistan could be seen putting up a strong resistance against forced conversion to Islam. A leader of Tablighi Jamaat, an Islamic Missionary Movement, in Sindh, had allegedly kidnapped a Hindu boy and had demanded conversion to Islam as a ransom for releasing him. Besides, houses belonging to Bheel Hindus had been ransacked and vandalised. Their properties have been illegally grabbed and forced to vacate their own houses.

The mother of the boy could be heard demanding the release of his son. She reiterated, “We will prefer to die but never ever convert to Islam.” It must be mentioned that the kidnappers of the Hindu boy have been seeking the conversion of Hindu families to Islam as a ransom to release the boy.

Prior to this, we reported how a Hindu couple was forcibly converted to Islam at a mosque in the city of Nawabshah in the Sindh district of Pakistan on May 15 . The conversion was undertaken by a local Imam (Islamic Cleric) named Hamid Qadri. Another Muslim leader associated with the Jamaat Ahle Sunnat was also present at the time of the forced conversion. The couple was handed cash following their conversion to Islam. These are only a few of the many incidents of atrocities which the Hindus and other minorities in Pakistan are having to go through every day.

Source:
https://www.opindia.com/2020/06/pakistan-102-hindus-in-sindh-forced-to-take-up-islam-temple-converted-to-mosque/