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  1. On 3/9/2018 at 9:18 AM, paapiman said:

    Here is the arth from Amir Bhandar teeka.

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    Bhul chuk maaf

    But is it likely that every Sikh had knowledge of raag and owned expensive string musical instruments? When the Gurbani  tuk  says

    Then, at the rising of the sun, he is to sing Gurbani;

    That's referring to reading Gurbani, since simran is to be done before reading Gurbani to build concentration 

  2. 2 hours ago, paapiman said:

    That tuk alludes to doing Kirtan of Gurbani, after sunrise.

    You can do both, Nitnem (of 5 Amrit Gurbanis) and Simran during Amritvela. There is more than enough time during Amritvela for both, especially for a basic Jagayasu.

    The best time for Nitnem (of 5 Amrit Gurbanis) is Amritvela (before sunrise), according to Rehat Maryada.

     

    Bhul chuk maaf

    Faridkot wala teeka

    ਫਿਰਿ ਚੜੈ ਦਿਵਸੁ ਗੁਰਬਾਣੀ ਗਾਵੈ ਬਹਦਿਆ ਉਠਦਿਆ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਧਿਆਵੈ   

    Then, at the rising of the sun, he is to sing Gurbani; whether sitting down or standing up, he is to meditate on the Lord's Name.  

    ਫਿਰ ਦਿਨ ਚੜੇ ਗੁਰੋਂ ਕੀ ਬਾਣੀ ਪੜੇ ਵਾ ਸੁਰ ਤਾਲ ਮੈ ਗਾਯਨ ਕਰੇ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤ ਵੇਲੇ ਜਾਪ ਕਰਨੇ ਕਾ ਭਾਵ ਏਹ ਤਿਸ ਕਾਲ ਮੈ ਇਕਾਗਰ ਮਨ ਹੋਤਾ ਹੈ ਬਾਣੀ ਕਾ ਪਾਠ ਬਿਨਾਂ ਇਕਾਗਰਤਾ ਔਰ ਬਿਉਹਾਰ ਕਰਤਿਆਂ ਭੀ ਹੋ ਜਾਤਾ ਹੈ ਪਰੰਤੂ ਧਿਆਨ ਜਾਪ ਬਿਉਹਾਰ ਕਾਲ ਮੈ ਨਹੀਂ ਹੋਤਾ॥ ❀ਪ੍ਰਸ਼ਨ: ਜਬ ਬਾਣੀ ਕਾ ਪਾਠ ਕਰ ਚੁਕੇ ਤਬ ਕਿਆ ਕਰੇ? ॥ਉੱਤ੍ਰ॥ ਬੈਠਤਿਆਂ ਉਠਤਿਆਂ ਸੁਭਾਵਕ ਹੀ ਹਰੀ ਕਾ ਨਾਮ ਉਚਾਰਨ ਕਰਤਾ ਰਹੇ॥

     

  3. This tuk from Gurbani is teaching to do Simran at Amritvela and after the sun has risen then read Gurbani.

    Don't most people read Gurbani at Amritvela, when we are suppose to be doing Simran?

    ਮਃ   
    Fourth Mehl: 
     
    ਗੁਰ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਜੋ ਸਿਖੁ ਅਖਾਏ ਸੁ ਭਲਕੇ ਉਠਿ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਧਿਆਵੈ  
    One who calls himself a Sikh of the Guru, the True Guru, shall rise in the early morning hours and meditate on the Lord's Name. 
     
    ਉਦਮੁ ਕਰੇ ਭਲਕੇ ਪਰਭਾਤੀ ਇਸਨਾਨੁ ਕਰੇ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤ ਸਰਿ ਨਾਵੈ  
    Upon arising early in the morning, he is to bathe, and cleanse himself in the pool of nectar. 
     
    ਉਪਦੇਸਿ ਗੁਰੂ ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਜਪੁ ਜਾਪੈ ਸਭਿ ਕਿਲਵਿਖ ਪਾਪ ਦੋਖ ਲਹਿ ਜਾਵੈ  
    Following the Instructions of the Guru, he is to chant the Name of the Lord, Har, Har. All sins, misdeeds and negativity shall be erased. 
     
    ਫਿਰਿ ਚੜੈ ਦਿਵਸੁ ਗੁਰਬਾਣੀ ਗਾਵੈ ਬਹਦਿਆ ਉਠਦਿਆ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਧਿਆਵੈ  
    Then, at the rising of the sun, he is to sing Gurbani; whether sitting down or standing up, he is to meditate on the Lord's Name. 
     

    ਜੋ ਸਾਸਿ ਗਿਰਾਸਿ ਧਿਆਏ ਮੇਰਾ ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਸੋ ਗੁਰਸਿਖੁ ਗੁਰੂ ਮਨਿ ਭਾਵੈ  
    One who meditates on my Lord, Har, Har, with every breath and every morsel of food - that GurSikh becomes pleasing to the Guru's Mind. 

    ਜਿਸ ਨੋ ਦਇਆਲੁ ਹੋਵੈ ਮੇਰਾ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਤਿਸੁ ਗੁਰਸਿਖ ਗੁਰੂ ਉਪਦੇਸੁ ਸੁਣਾਵੈ  
    That person, unto whom my Lord and Master is kind and compassionate - upon that GurSikh, the Guru's Teachings are bestowed. 
     
    ਜਨੁ ਨਾਨਕੁ ਧੂੜਿ ਮੰਗੈ ਤਿਸੁ ਗੁਰਸਿਖ ਕੀ ਜੋ ਆਪਿ ਜਪੈ ਅਵਰਹ ਨਾਮੁ ਜਪਾਵੈ ॥੨॥ 
    Servant Nanak begs for the dust of the feet of that GurSikh, who himself chants the Naam, and inspires others to chant it. ||2|| 
  4. Lahore’s historical gurdwara now a Muslim shrine

     

    The well of blood

    • Gurdwara ‘Lal Khoohi’ (the well of blood) was built at the spot where Guru Arjan Dev was kept in confinement. The site housed the haveli (mansion) of Chandu Shah,the diwan of Mughal Emperor Jahangir, who had developed hatred for the Guru after he rejected the marriage proposal of the Emperor's daughter with the Guru’s son, Hargobind. The Guru is believed to havespent his last days here, drinking from the well. In1927, the SGPC took charge of the gurdwara.

     

    Vishav Bharti

    Tribune News Service

    Chandigarh, June 13 

    A historical gurdwara in Lahore has been turned into a Muslim shrine, according to a recent article by Islamabad-based anthropologist Haroon Khalid. Gurdwara ‘Lal Khoohi’ (well of blood), built at the spot where Guru Arjan Dev was kept in confinement, has now become ‘Haq Char Yaar’.

    Khalid, known for documenting the historical and cultural heritage of Pakistan, said this was yet another instance of a place of worship belonging to a minority community being appropriated by the dominant Muslim population.

    Khalid, who has written books on Pakistan’s minorities, said the fifth Sikh Guru was also tortured at this place. “The story goes that this site housed the haveli (mansion) of Chandu Shah, the diwan of Mughal Emperor Jahangir, who had developed hatred for the Guru after he rejected the marriage proposal of Chandu Shah’s daughter with the Guru’s son, Hargobind,” he said.

    As per Khalid, “The Guru is believed to have spent his last days here, drinking from the well. That’s how it came to be called ‘Lal Khoohi’.”

    Prof JS Grewal, a chronicler of Sikh history and former director of the Indian Institute of Advanced Study, Shimla, confirmed that the reference to the fifth Guru’s confinement at Chandu Shah’s haveli was found in Sikh texts.

    Lahore-based Majid Sheikh, a journalist and a writer who has extensively written on Lahore’s history and is now doing PhD on ‘Ancient history of Punjab’ at Cambridge University, said, “This place has nothing to do with Islam. There seems to be no limit to our ignorance.”

    The gurdwara was initially very small, but Sikhs purchased the adjoining houses and built a bigger building. In 1927, the Shiromani Gurdwara Parbandhak Committee (SGPC) took charge of it.

    Talking to The Tribune, Haroon said most of the places of worship belonging to the minorities in Pakistan were in a bad condition. Most of them have been taken over by Partition refugees and transformed into houses. “Over the years, these buildings have lost their architectural heritage. However, there are a handful of gurdwaras and temples that the Pakistan Government looks after. These are the places which Sikh and Hindu pilgrims are allowed to visit,” he said.

     

    http://www.tribuneindia.com/mobi/news/punjab/lahore-s-historical-gurdwara-now-a-muslim-shrine/251494.html

     

     

  5. 1 hour ago, dalsingh101 said:

    If Islamist fundamentalism spreads in west Panjab, I fear attacks on Gurdwaras and Sikhs at some point. Part of me is surprised this hasn't happened already. 

    Its been happening for a long time, a quick search on the internet will shock you

     

     

     

    Terrorist Attack Feared After 300 Years Old Sikh Gurdwara Reopened in Pakistan After 73 Years


    Gurdwara Biba Singh | Courtesy: Facebook page of Save Historical Places of Pakistan


    PESHAWAR, Pakistan—A Gurdwara in Jogiwada area of Peshawar (Pakistan) was reopened after 73 years on April 27. Gurdwara Sahib is believed to be over 300 years old. It was closed down in 1940 as most of the Sikh families living in the area had to relocate. Local Sikhs of Jogiwada had been struggling legally for reopening the Gurdwara since 2012.


    Peshawar area where the Gurdwara is situated is Taliban dominated. Taliban has strict policies towards the minorities, and is staunchly against religious places of non-Muslims.


    Sardar Gurpal Singh, a prominent Sikh living in the area told Sikh24 that the security of the visiting devotees is necessary as the Gurdwara will be on target of Taliban and other terrorist organizations in the area. He informed that currently a Police cop has been deployed outside Gurdwara Sahib.


    A book-seller adjacent to the Gurdwara premises said that the locals have been in fear of a terrorist attack ever since the Gurdwara reopened. He said that a girls’ school falls in the neighbourhood of the Gurdwara Sahib, so if any mishappening occurs, it could lead to huge damage of lives.


    According to CIA reports, minorities form 3.6 % of total population of Pakistan. Sikhs are often targeted by the terrorist organizations such as Taliban for obtaining ransoms.


    Since the Gurdwara was uninhabited for over six decades, its walls and inner dome have been damaged following several earthquakes. But the main building built in 1708 has survived.

    www.sikh24.com/2016/04/28/terrorist-attack-feared-after-300-years-old-sikh-gurdwara-reopened-in-pakistan-after-73-years/

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