Sukhi

Amrit is very important for an Sikh because Guru ji created amrit (immortal drink) to benefit us..I don't know why sikhs of today hate the word "amrit" like if it was a poision...why would guru create poison for his sikhs??..

do sikhs despise amrit itself or the manner in which it is forced upon them?

moving on... this is exactly what i wanna know.

what is the benefit of amrit?

well have u thought about why they might have put such a system in place?... there is an obvious reason, seeing the high cost that would've gone into it.

say what?

how important is amrit (not naam ras) to being a sikh? and why? what is the importance or significance of amrit?

it's all in how you see it.

if we make everything computerized, won't we be taking away the opportunity to do seva? i've always been told that "hath valee seva bahut zarooree hai".

dammit. now imma have to wait til you people catch up.

*zips it*

hmmmm.... :?

i dunno. i just go with the flow. stop thinking so much, you punkarella. geevus brice!

As long as you are attached or are in the grasp of your reality, whether it be your dream or this world its existence is important.

when you awaken from your disillusion then what importance does it hold for you realize the false existence of your dream/world.

Pheenu, extend this thought to all of your lives and what your soul believes its suffering through while remaining "veiled" and you'll know what i was talkin about in terms of the pm i sent to you about 'sin'.

none of it is of consequence cuz in the end, there is only One.

cappeesh?

ah rakash... you moron, you just prevented this thread from being a gazillion pages long. how dare you?!

but yes yes, i agree with what demon said.

btw, doaba, looks like the entire universe has you...

explain please HDW.

yeah. why?

gee, i wonder where you found the pic, Neo. *ahem*

it's not my fault that i have to correct your incorrect assumptions at every turn.

what are the rights of heterosexual individuals? why are heterosexual individuals allowed to legally be married? why isn't this extended to homosexual individuals IF indeed every individual is equal before and under the law and has the right to the equal protection and equal benefit of the law without discrimination?

as for marriage and how it's understood and defined by society, let's take a look at it a lil closer. gimme some time to find marriage laws or whatever (i've got exams in a week or so, so i'm a lil hard-pressed for time). we'll look at that and figure out whether i even have a case.

you lost me with the family dialogue. wanna explain again please?

we already have laws against abusive and neglectful parents... or have you not heard of something called "social services"?

and yeah, parents in abusive marriages have been known to have their children separated from them as a result of the negative effects of their relationship on the child. it doesn't happen as often because people suffer in silence, but if you're gonna tell me that we allow it, i'm telling you right now that you're wrong. it's not allowed.

i don't understand how you can talk about infringing upon the rights of a paedophile when a paedophile's sexuality is based purely on infringing upon a child's safety. :shock:

my suggestion to you: if you really don't care, why are you arguing about it so much with me? (don't you dare stop arguing. i still wanna hear what you have to say.)

Lets try something, i wana know what you think i've said, I've already written something, trying to decipher what i had said but i wana know what you think. It seems you are on a roll for the past 2-3 months, so who knows u might find something in what i said that is more in depth than i could ever think of.

Here are some starting points from teh Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji.

this should be interesting. Don't retranslate the quotes, but use them as a starting point to think for your own thoughts.

ooookay...

what i did, Pheenu, is read the entire shabads that the tuks are from...

combining what i learned or interpreted from both, i think we've stumbled onto a discussion of spiritual sins/deeds.

for the past couple of weeks, i've been discussing the nature of "nearness" with God with a couple of other people, and the general conclusion seems to be that God is all-pervading and as a result, we're always near him. but we deceive ourselves into thinking that we are far from him, because we can't recognize Him. both of the shabads emphasize this point.

so, what i'm thinking is that sin is to continue on being blind to Reality and stumbling through lives. we've blinded ourselves with the various veils of maya, and until we pull them away and open our eyes to light, we are sinning and living the essence of duality. it's dark, because we've shrouded ourselves away from the Light, although the Light pervades through all.

virtue then, would be to awaken... to open our eyes...

virtue would be to recognize this Truth as put so eloquently by Guru Sahib. not only recognize it, but understand it.

and that's an experience i haven't had yet, unfortunately.

anyways, i'm doing this at about 6 a.m. my time without sleep. i'm hoping i made some sense...

oh and one more thing...

the concept of sin/virtue seems to be relatively free from a sense of good/bad. i'll try explaining this later on. cuz i'm SO tired!

lol... i didn't mean it literally... hahahaaa.. though it'd be funny if you did... i meant wait til i do come back seriously.

sexy, it's 3:05 a.m. where i am. i am physically incapable of writing up an intelligent reply at this moment and will do so tomorrow... or rather today... evening... my time... lol...hold your breath til then, aigh.

yeah... then much later some of the homo sapiens evolved into canadians!!

no, YOU read again, PUNK!

lol... i knew we were superior creatures. thank you. thank you very much.

i think tha's the most honest he's ever been, GK. (kidding)

No' date=' i never said they are getting special rights. I said they shouldnt have them. There is a difference! The thing you quoted, correct me if im wrong but i dont see any mention of sexuality. [/quote']

no one is saying that they should have them. and that's not what we're talking about in here at all.

in my OPINION, hatred isn't right. no matter what. but i'm probably wrong, so i'll just wait for someone to say so and tell you the right thing.

argh... Pheena, i KNOW you wanna discuss this more. come on... don't back off like that!

lol... explain the characteristics of Truth and the difference between it and duality. come on! come on! come on!

erm, there's no need to leave the board. i'm annoying and you dun see me running off anywhere... :?