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  1. On 5/6/2005 at 12:54 PM, karmjeet said:

    literal meaning of celibate is to control your desires and don't have physical relationship .

     

    A married couple can be a celibate as well , while having physical relationship . ( and obviously they have to follow rehit maryada )

     

    Once a gursikh asked Baba Nand Singh Ji , how can he becoma a celibate while being married ?

     

    He answered :

    for a grahsti 2 children are enough .

     

    have relationship only once in a whole year .

     

    if u still can't control ur self , make it once in 6 months i.e. twice in a year

     

    if u still can't do it , make it once a month .

     

    if u still can't control ur self , do it once a week ( on tuesday , between 11 pm to 1 am )

     

    and the next day in the morning , take a kesi ishnan .

     

    And if you still can't control it , then you are not a sikh of Guru Nanak , U r a vishayi ( a person engrossed in sensual pleasures )

    Are these bachans of Baba Nand Singh ji? Where can I find the source? where can I find all the other bachans by him?

  2. 1 hour ago, mahanpaapi said:

    <img src="> He is very old, around 90s, totally immersed in Dhyaan and known to be achieved the higher level with direct guidance and Blessings of Baba Nand Singh JI. You can try to meet him in Chandigarh. I understand he rarely meets anyone. 

    How can we get the guidance & blessings? 
    I feel Im not getting any blessing or guidance and I will just die to reborn. 
     

    Is he living with his family? Is he a househoulder? 

  3. Hello, Its only saying that sikhs/devotees should mingle with devotees. I ofcouse dont mingle, talk much or make friend withs non-devotees or bad companies.. but somtimes your roommates aer of bad-cmpany, like smoking, drinking and bad-talking, but you dont interact with them.. but still u r living in the same house, same college... what do you do then? I usually dont make much friends with these people and i keep to myself, however I always have to see their faces becoz they lvie with me.

    secondly, how is it to get a good sangat? can this internet forum be qualified as a sangat? what do u guys think?

    i guess the best thing to do is just to leave home and everything and go find some good sangat in punjab.

  4. Sangat, janian jitha ako Nam bakhania.. GGS

    Further on

    wich sangat prub vasa jeo

    GOD resides in Sangat.

    Sangat prub kee aut piari.

    GOD loves sangat the most.

    So people gathered to remember GOD is Sadh Sangat.

    nogroup singh, I fully agree on this. So we can say that any such gathering is sadh sangat. We are also internet sadh sangat because we are talking about God here.

    In anycase... will an internet thing such as ours constitute a sangat? is it correct?

    I would also think that the most common form sadh-sangat is the Gurudwra gathering where ppl sit and sing kirtan. This is the most common.

    but not many ppl like me can get to be in such a sangat, especially when u live in foreign countries.. going to the gurudwara everyday is very hard and ppl dont come there everday., Ofcourse weekly you can, but still an unblessed person like me has not been able to make full advantage of sadh-sangat.

    I do know that sadh-sangat is the MOST IMPORTANT FEATURE it can not be ignored, because it is due to sadh-sangat that the person's thinking changes and he develops more spiritually faster and better and his doubts get cleared. Several stories in Guru ji's time explain the powerful effect of Guruji's sadhsangat.

    for example how Bhai Lehna got affected in the Sangat of Guru Nanak and how even a nastik became a beleier in 10 days in Guru Nanak's sangat.

    so where do we get a sangat. What are your opinions on renunciation and living in sadh-sangat all your life and at the sametime doing some little kirat? instead of living a worldly life?

  5. The literal meaning of sadh-sangat is sadhu-sangat. Which is true. But I thought that a bunch of devotees , naam abhiyaasis living togther on thep ath of God with also consititute sangat? what u guys think? ofcourse wehen u goto the gurudwara u get to listen good spiritual things in kirtan but then after that it is all worldly discussion.

  6. Hello, has anyone heard of this Baba? There are two Baba Harnaam Singh ji's one was the teacher of Baba Nand Singh Sahib and the other from se kanieyeha?? I was read their biography from BOSS-UK website. Its a good website. Here is a story I'd like to share

    26. Mortal (Dehthaari) Guru Gets OutlawedThere was another event in relation to Doctor Kartar Singh which is necessary to mention, which enforced the path of

    Gurbani in his life even further. With Baba ji's inspiration and company he had become a firm believer in 'Baani Guru Guru

    Hai Baani'. But his father and the rest of his family had great faith in a Nirankaree Dehthaari (mortal) guru (by the name of

    baba hari singh- in lower case because he was a totally fake samosa) of Ravalpindi - who in the presence of Guru Granth

    Sahib Ji called himself guru and made people bow down to himself. He would quote through Gurbani but would twist

    meanings to confuse people to believe that it was telling them that a 'person' was required. And that without a mortal

    guru, reading Gurbani was of little spiritual benefit for the soul. 'Whoever tells you of Gurbani and shows you the spiritual

    path, he is the true Guru'.

    But Doctor was now a firm believer in the Gurbani which this man was swaying everyone away from. Doctor had an older

    sister Bibi Prem Kaur who lived in Lahore. She had an Akhand Paat at her house. She had invited all her relatives and she

    had lovingly invited Baba ji to attend. Baba ji, Avtar Singh Daler, Squadron Leader Surath Singh (now in 35 Sector

    Chandigar) and his younger brother Wing Commander Moorath Singh and some others arrived at Prem Kaur's house one

    day before completion of the Akhand Paat (Bhog). Many discussed Gurbani with Baba ji until evening.

    GURBANI IS GURU

    That evening, Kartar Singh' father arrived from Ravalpindi and brought Hari Singh (dehdhaari guru) with him. All the

    family greeted their 'guru' with garlands of flowers and prepared a nice room for him to stay in. After eating, the

    congregation went and sat with him.

    Doctor sahib and his colleagues began with the question 'Is Gurbani Guru?' and after a while, a big argument broke out.

    The argument continued for some hours but there was no conclusion. Doctor Kartar Singh decided that this ought to be

    settled today - is Gurbani Guru or is there a need for a dehthaari guru?

    Doctor said very firmly that there would be no answer using these methods, we need a firm answer. He put forward a

    challenge saying he, who while sitting in the sangat, can go to Kashmir with his astral body (soul) and get five kilos of

    apples, we will believe him. After hearing this challenge, the whole congregation sat in silence. Then, Doctor's father

    said, first ask your Bhai Sahib (Baba ji) if he agrees to this. We will decide here.

    Bhai Sahib and some others then got up and went to Baba ji and told him what they had decided. After listening, Baba ji

    stayed silent for a while then replied 'Well, if this will decide how we conduct ourselves and respect our Guru-Gurbani,

    then instead of five kilos, the sangat will get ten kilos. This is not a big thing. I will simply do an Ardaas. Satguru Ji will

    definately fulfill it. In hearing this, Baba ji's friends did a 'Jaikaaraa' and then went to the dehthaari's room. There, they

    asked him if he would bring back ten kilos rather than five. Where did he stand in this situation?

    After hearing this he bluntly refused and said that he did not get involved in these displays of miracles. He told them how

    they had invited him to their house and humiliated him; with this excuse he promptly left in the middle of the night! In the

    morning at the Bhog, 'Gurbani is Guru' prevailed and this was the topic of inspiration.

    After the Keertan, Baba ji gave an explanation of the Gur-Vaak and convinced them all that if they wanted Guru Ji's

    blessing, they would have to go and present themselves to the Panj Pyaaray, who are Guru Ji's own and have been given

    Guru Ji's blessing (Dheekhiaa). Meaning that Khandey Dhaa Amrit is ABSOLUTELY imperative for every Gursikh.

    When a Gursikh takes Amrit and grasps Guru Granth Sahib Ji's path, he NEVER has any need for a dehthaari guru.

    Doctor Sahib and some other premees arranged for the day of the Amrit Sanchaar. Baba ji got together five Amritdhaari

    Singhs and many took Amrit in Lahore.

    Every Gursikh should remain aware of this. A Gursikhs Guru is Gurbaani. Sri Guru Raam Daas Ji's Baani in Raag Natt

    makes it clear, and leaves no doubt that this does not apply to ANY dehthaari:

    'Baani Guru Guru Hai Baani Vich Baani Amrit Saaray ||

    Gurbaani Kahay Sevak Jan Maanay Parthakh Guru Nisthaaray ||' Natt M:4

    Page 982

    'Satgur Bachan Bachan Hai Satgur Paadhar Mukath Janaavaigo ||'

    Kaanraa M:4 Page 1309

    Paadhar = straight level roadway to liberation

    'Satgur Kee Baani Sat Saroop Hai Gurbaani Baneeai ||' Vaar Gauri M:4

    Page 304

    Sat Saroop = Vaheguru Ji's own form

    'Satgur Baani Purakh Purakhotham Baani Sio Chitlaavaigo ||

    Gurbaani Sunath Meraa Mann Draviaa Mann Bheenaa Nijj Ghar Aavaigo ||

    Kaanraa M:4 Page 1308

    Purakhotham = the higher than high being (Parmeshar)

    The need is for us to recognise Gurbaani as Satguru Ji's OWN form and to have full faith and take shelter in it. Whoever

    does will..............

    'Jo Sunay Kamaavai So Uthrai Paar ||' Asa M:5 Page 370

    -----------------cross over the worldly ocean!!!!!!!!!!!

  7. How come a woman never agreed to offer her head when Guru Gobind Singh ji asked for a head during baisakhi?

    So I kind of dont like this question "Why women cant be sants?"

    No seva and simran and all the time emotional attacment makes jack a dull boy !

    It is like a person who never did any seva and simran and is asking "why didnt i get to be sant?"

    as we can see only those who did seva and simran became sants or Gurus, but there very few women who did this and many did ofcourse.

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