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Just now, DeNiro said:

Don't put anyone on a pedestal. Respect anyone who helps you in any way to raise your surti, but don't put them on a pedestal.   Yes, gianni is not a brahmgyaani as brahmgyanee is a misused  term in my opinion.  Brahmgyanee is not referred to a jeev.    A jeev/manook with physical body comes to a life end.  Brahmygaani is an avastha of the mind. That mind sits in Prakash/turiya avastha all the while.  The Sukhmani sahib references are for the brahmgian state of mind and not a physical jeev.

Well said, veer ji. 

On 4/1/2005 at 2:05 PM, SSS said:

hey, i no it has been mentioned many times before.. but any chance someone has a translation of the tape? my urdu isn't great (2 say the least lolz) and i can only get the jist of whats being said... and nobody i no is patient enough to translate it for me...

 

any help would be greatly apreciated... thanks

 

SaT

Very late, lol, but it could still be relevant to others. 

Full credit to Kamaljeet Singh Hapur. 

https://www.speakingtree.in/blog/how-to-transform-the-sexual-energy-into-spiritual-energy-ojas-shakti

Perservance of semen allows more Ojas in a man's body. 

11 hours ago, angy15 said:

If you are writing this in reference to Dhandriwala video on colors.I would request you to point whats wrong or anti Gurmat he has said . If you cant't point out the mistake this comment of yours doesn't hold any substance.

Only source to take spiritual nourishment is SGGS. All these kathavachaks are like helping tools of it.

Whatever one speaks  abt Gurmat has to bench marked WITH SGGS  whether they are TAKSALi  or MISSIONARY.There is no place for blind beliefs or FAKE SAKHIS!!

 

"SGGS IS THE FINAL AUTHORITY"

He said kabir ji was being a voice for those who didn't want mundan or sunnat, kabir ji was however questioning them for a deeper purpose. You might have seen as well, but these days people just focus on rituals of the religion thinking they are religious and all. They don't focus on the deeper idea which is, in most religions, to gain enlightenment or at least the love of god. Hence the questioning. Dhadri should learn deeper meaning instead of just repeating the same thing throughout the whole video. 

17 hours ago, angy15 said:

 

This answers your questions

Now what Dhandrianwala says abt colors which is as per Gurmat.

 

 

 

It can be said that looking into too many sources can create unwanted doubt within the mind, however it is also possible that the source you allow your self to be guided by on such matters may be fallible. 

On 9/27/2018 at 9:23 AM, Soulfinder said:

@paapiman

Veer ji here is a short history article i found on Bhai Ragbir Singh Ji's jeevan.

Sardar Raghbir Singh Bir

Sardar Raghbir Singh Bir was a Sikh businessman who used to live in Calcutta (Bengal). His family was originally from Lahore and his father Sardar Lehna Singh also was a very good Gurmukh. At first Bir jee got interested in Sikhi and he wrote the famous book Bandaginama on his spiritual experiences. In this book he writes that he used to dye and tie his beard, even though he knew it was a wrong practice. He did so at the order of his father who was not a religious person at that time.

Later on, when his father Sardar Lehna Singh got infected with many diseases including arthritis, he took up Sikhi to cure himself. He did so much Abhyaas of Gurbani and Naam that within a very short period he became perfectly healthy. Till his last breath, at the age of 85, he maintained the body of a 25 years old youth. He wrote a wonderful book on his experiences and is called Gurmukh Jeevan. He was a fanatic as far as not using worldly medicine is concerned. He considered himself as pure Atma and conducted his business as such. Once, he hurt his foot and he did all things opposite to what doctor suggested. He did not tie his foot with a bandage and deliberately exposed it to water (as opposed to doctor's advice) and still got healed. First of all he never got sick but if he ever did, he used to conduct his business as usual and ate normal as well. He totally used to reject the notion of disease because he believed that a disease cannot occur to Atma.

Once, Bir jee and Sardar jee (Lehna Singh jee) started talking about the Atma saroop of the Jeev. Bir jee questioned that if we were truly Atma, then why was there a need to sleep. At this Sardar jee agreed and then proved it by not sleeping for many days, and still not feeling any tiredness or fatigue. He used to do his regular work all day, and at night would come to the bedside of his son and all night do Naam Abhyaas.

Once a thought came to his mind that why should he use the mosquito net for protection from mosquitoes. He argued that the mosquitoes contained the same Parmatma Vaheguru as all of us and as such they should not bite him and hurt him. So he removed the net and also removed his shirt and slept with kachera only. The next morning his body was so badly bitten by the mosquitoes that there was not a part on his body that was unhurt. Sardar jee laughed it off saying that the reason why mosquitoes had hurt him was that he had some hidden hatred and negative feeling for them. Then he did Naam Abhyaas all day and kept affirming again and again that the mosquitoes were a roop of Vaheguru and that Vaheguru jee could not hurt him. Within couple of days, the mosquitoes stopped biting him at all and then all his life he never slept with mosquito net and he never got hurt by mosquitoes.

Sardar Raghbir Singh Bir wrote some excellent books which include the following titles:

Sarb Rog ka Aukhand Naam - This books talks about curing oneself through Naam and Gurbani.

Chardi Kala - This book contains chosen articles that bring Chardi Kala to one's life.

Safal Jeevan - This books talks about how to have a successful live - both worldly and spiritual.

Ramzi Kahaniyaan - This book contains some fictitious stories that are full of spirituality and spiritual secrets. A must read for serious seekers.

Ardaas Shakti - This book talks about the concept of Ardaas in Sikhi and how to do such an Ardaas that gets heard by Vaheguru jee.

Bir jee writes of his experience after stopping to dye and tie his beard. He writes how he started getting treated differently everywhere he went. If he would be standing in a queue, he would get moved to the top because of his appearance etc.

COURTESY OF KULBIR SINGH

GURMATBIBEK.COM

Thanks for sharing, veer ji. Very inspirational inspirational.

16 hours ago, DeNiro said:

You just blanked "DeNiro"?

 

Sorry about that mistake on my part. 

BTW, thanks a lot for sharing your knowledge with me. I really appreciate it.  

14 hours ago, angy15 said:

My Lists:

Bhai Ranjit Singh Dhanderiawale(He speaks on various topics including panthic issues facing our Sikh Society. A  must listen for younger generations.He is in Forefront  for Single Rehat Mariyada .

 

Yogi bhajan( if you want some yogic stuff in Sikhism .Very Helpfull for Non Sikhs who wants to understand abt sikhi)

 

Bhai Panthpreet Singh (Very popular in Punjab and worldwide)

Baba Banta Singh(another popular kathavachak has done various kathas on  JApji ,Jaap Sahib etc)

 

Prof Darshan Singh (Very well educated in Gurmat Philosophy my favourite is his excellent katha on Japji Sahib)

A lot of missionaries you got there, except for baba banta singh ji from DDT. 

7 hours ago, angy15 said:

 

That guy is a straight up missionary. IMO he is worse than dhadri. 

1 hour ago, paapiman said:

The names of the horses sound feminine. Are they mares?

The demi-God Arun (the planet Uranus) is the charioteer of Sun. That's interesting. Any idea, what would that imply?

 

Bhul chuk maaf

 

Yeah, they do indeed sound feminine. I'm not 100% sure if they are mares, though.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surya

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The seven horses are named after the seven meters of Sanskrit prosody: Gayatri, Brihati, Ushnih, Jagati, Trishtubha, Anushtubha and Pankti.

This site, https://www.speakingtree.in/allslides/why-7-horses-for-the-chariot-of-sun/40234 has some interesting information of surya dev and his horses. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aruṇa 

According to wikipedia, Arun is the "personification of the reddish glow light of the rising Sun". 

http://www.apamnapat.com/entities/Aruna.html 

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The story of how he became Surya's charioteer is mentioned in [Maha:1.24]. When Surya was swallowed and then regurgitated by Rahu, in revenge for the incident of the nectar, he grew exceedingly angry with the other immortals, for they had suffered him to undergo this indignity. He thought, 'Since no one came to my aid, what is the use of their existence? Let me destroy all creation with my great heat.' Then he started multiplying his radiance, and the generated heat threatened to burn the world. The Devas beseeched Lord Brahma to save the world.

Lord Brahma said, "I shall place Aruna, the son of Kashyapa and Vinata in front of Surya. He is of large body and has divine radiance. He will become the charioteer of Surya and shield the world from his anger."

 

51 minutes ago, paapiman said:

Thanks for sharing the above info.

What's the source of this info?

Thanks

 

Bhul chuk maaf

http://www.santosha.com/philosophy/gita-chapter10.html

No, problem brother, happy to share. 

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3 hours ago, DeNiro said:

they are good books but they can easily be misinterpreted and not understood. Especially if one is reading whilst on the bhagti marg path. I found, along with some other abyasees, that there were some serious errors. especially when it came to "anhad".   

I think when bhai randhir singh ji says the "gurmat Anhad naad" he means the kirtan from sachkhand heard after opening of dasam duar, in later stages. While "yogic Anhad Naad" probably means the sound of Om which is called the primordial sound in yoga. It is claimed that Om is the sound of the beginning of the Universe by the yogis. I might be wrong, though. Feel free to correct me.

3 hours ago, DeNiro said:

1) Where are you hearing these in unionization?  I mean,  where is your mind settled?

2) There should be 2 other things happening at the same time if you can hear the final sages of panj shabad. .. if nothing else is happening, then they are most likely pavan shabads, UNLESS, you are getting mixed up with the ringing sound which is like baseline shabad?   

 

1) My mind is settled at my ears but the sounds merge in the middle of my head at times, I hear different sounds at different places, e.g. I normally hear the drum in the centre, the bells are heard everywhere, etc. I mean,  I do hear them everywhere but specific sounds are more prominent in specific areas. Therefore, I do hear them simultaneously or together, merged into one sound. 

2) What are the other two things? 

I think I know which pavan shabad you are talking of, they're like the high pitched frequencies that vary at times. Those don't really have the same magnetism as what I hear. The sounds really draw my attention whereas, the frequencies or pavan shabads did not. 

13 hours ago, DeNiro said:

Do you mean when 5 shabad are all heard together?

This is a short stage that occurs before you enter the gurudwara inside you. The 5 shabad should be recognizable from earlier levels of avastha. At that time, your mind wasn't quite still or in sunn and they would have occurred separately.    At the guru's dwar, the panj shabad sound, and by now you should have killed the 5 dhoots as well. It's just a momentarily occurrence in unison  before the sound of  loud anhad toor comes.

I've know a few fellow abyasees who have got to the these 5 shabads and then got scared or pulled back when they heard the toor. A gurmukh advised that it's because their foundations weren't solid enough and needed more hours listening to shabad.  

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Yeah, I've been hearing the 5 shabad in unison non-stop. So it just happens for a short time and one shall hear the Anhad toor? Can you explain the Anhad toor in more detail, please? 

Thanks, man. 

@Soulfinder thanks a lot for sharing, veer ji. 

Just now, Soulfinder said:

Thats really interesting how did you do that veer ji ?

I guess it's just a stage in spiritual progress. One day I was just sitting and I happened to see a light around my sister. Then I saw it appearing around others. I also checked my hand and it was there. 

1 hour ago, Soulfinder said:

Would you veer ji ever get a aura pic taken ?

No, I've already seen my aura.

39 minutes ago, Soulfinder said:

Veer ji you are right the prices are really high for these pictures to be taken as i did a online search with the aura pic studio being in central london the prices were really expensive for a picture which who knows if its real or fake as this not cheap the prices.

 

Also my mum said its whaam superstatius these things but i am not thinking too much about it at the moment as its not on my top list.

Yeah, bro. You right. But it not whaam, lol. Yeah, man don't worry too much about 'em. It's all good :-).

2 hours ago, Soulfinder said:

Excellent thread veer ji i will add more titles as well as i do look for english religious books as i can't read and write in punjabi at the moment.

Thanks, veer ji. I learnt Punjabi by reading paath, lol. I would look at the romanisation and compare it to the Punjabi version and started to pick up the letters and stuff. You can also use apps to learn it, though. But the first way is the best, lol.