karmjeet

good job neo singh!!!!!!!!

harpreet wrote

So if Guru Granth Sahib Ji maharaj was in a building - and then the building blew up, would god have blown up ?

Don't u still know that GOD is indestructible!!!!!!

and ur question is not wise ! ( it shows disrespect )

samosa singh ji ,

i am really impressed , You are absolutely and 100% right . there is no doubt in that . U actually do the seva of Sargun Saroop of GOD .

it all depends on your love , devotion , shardha and bhavna .

its like having a vast ocean . if u want to take water out of it it depends on the size of the utensil that you have . if u have a glass , u will be able to take onle that much water .

but if u have bigger pitcher , u will take out even more water ,.

and if you have even bigger utensil u can take much more water . so its like that . your devotion , faith and your bhavna is like the type of utensil that you have . The more great your faith and love the more you will get from Guru Ji .

Guru Granth ji is like pragat Guran ki deh . Do as much seva as you can .

He is GOD .

u r absolutely right .

Couldn't this gold be used to feed the poor...

don't act stupid !!

Do you know who a poor is ?

a poor is a person who earns a honest living by doing dasan nohan di kaamai without wasting money in bad things like drugs , women , alcohol etc . and is still not able to meet his needs . that person is called poor .

and in this whole world you will not find poor people like them .

that's what the langars are for in gurudwaras to feed the poor !(and even thise who are not poor)

it does not hurt if you show ur respect or love for The King of the ALL by spending some money (if u can afford it ) for your Guru Ji .

I say the whole gurudwaras be made of gold to reflect the grandeur of our beloved guru ji .

waheguru!

This the 100 % original picture of Guru Nanak Dev Ji .

There have been only 2 paintings of this kind in the whole world .

These 2 paintings have been installed in Sachkhand in Nanaksar Jagraon .

now this is the photo which was prepared by painter Bhagat Singh by having the pratkh darshan of Guru Nanak Sahib with the blessings of Baba Nand Singh Ji .

This is how guru ji actually looks like . All other fotos are fake .!!!!!!

say waheguru !!!!!!

u r actually loking at the sargun saroop of GOD !!!!!

for more fotos check out this link

http://www.gurbani-kirtan.com/nanaksar.htm

http://www.gurbani-kirtan.com/

all confusions have been cleared !!!!!

waheguru !!!!

dhan guru nanak tu hi nirankar !!!!

:bow:

onme more thing , this whole painting has been made with powdered 24 carat gold mixed in paint and when the light falls on it it looks like as if the holy prakash is coming out of Guru Nanak ji .

waheguru!!!!!!

rikki.singh

I believe that the people..be it hindu or sikh..keep beards and long hairs because there were no hairdressers at that time. I am clean shaven because I get all these facilities nowadays.....

, je tu clean shaven hain taan singh kahda hoya .

koi sharam hya hai koi ke nahi ?

maainoyea , this is a sikh forum !!!!

no anti -sikh views are gonna be accepted . :x

waheguru !!!!!!!!!!

truly amazing pictures!!!!!!!!!!

The maryada given at nanaksar during amrit sanchar is no different than the taksal one .( rehat maryada )

although the maryada of doing paths is different .

But I think out of all these saroops these 2 saroops are original as prepared by Bhagat Singh

Here are some more saroops :

rest of the saroops of guru ji were not made . only the saroop of guru nanak dev ji has been made .

in nanaksar , there are mainly saroops of guru nanak sahib and guru gobind singh ji .

beast wrote

What about Bhagat Farid, Bhai Mardana, Bhagat Kabeer, Bhagat Ravidass, etc, etc?

They also later on took birth as singhs or sikhs .

( the birth i referred here is different from those of common people . they don't feel the dukh of birth as we do )

And i am not trying to say that they did n't get mukti in their period . they got mukti .

but they just respected the maryada of God (the maryada of khalsa ) by coming on later .

for eg . the panj pyare were 5 bhagts

bhagat kabir ji , bhagat namdev ji . bhagat ravidas ji , dhanna jat ji and bhagat sadna ji .

they came as panj pyare

wjkk wjkf

bhul chuk maaf

The saroop at the top looks more beautiful and real .

Dhan Guru Nanak Tuhi Nirankar !!!!!!!!!

Kalyug Praman Nanak Guru

waheguru!!!!!!!!! :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow:

for more info also check out these links

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Troy/8399/...r/PORTAIT6.html

http://www.angelfire.com/in/sidhu/nanaksarsahib.html

www.babanandsinghsahib.org

The original saroop of Guru Nanak Dev ji was made by painter Bhagat Singh under supervision Of Baba ji .

But later on Bhagat Singh became hankari because he had the darshan Of GOD without doing any bhagti or kamai . It was baba ji 's blessings that he could get the darshan . so he was kicked out .

and later on after Baba Nand Singh ji , Baba Ishar Singh Ji appointed a new painter and then he made all the saroops in Sachkhand in Nanaksar .

So that's why there is a liitle bit difference in many saroops .

some of the saroops i am posting here .

yes , this is exactly what guru ji looked like .

This saroop ws prepared by Baba Nand Singh Ji kaleran wale by giving pratakh darshan to a painter named Bhagat Singh .

newagesikh wrote :"he was the ninth Guru must have been seasoned with Guru's methodology of using 'NANAK' in most of the Shabads."

i can't say anything becus i m moorakh . but with my malin budhi i think nanak pad was used by Guru Sahiban at the end of every shabad and as a mohar .

Guru ji used Ram to signify God . Ram is a name of God .

In Gurbani 37 different names of God have been used 25015 times .

Some of them are as follow :

name ------------------ no. of times

hari ------------------ 8344

ram ----------------- 2533

prabhu ----------------- 1371

gopal ----------------- 491

gobind ----------------- 475

parbrahm ------------------- 324

kartar -------------------- 228

thakur ------------------- 216

daata -------------------- 151

prameshar -------------------- 139

narayan --------------------- 85

murari --------------------- 67

antaryami --------------------- 61

wjkk wjkf

bhul chuk maaf

We all are moorakh bande . Gurbani is like a very vast ocean whose end we cannot achieve by our malin budhi .

These answers you can only find either from the Guru Himself or some pooran brahmgyani mahapurakh .

wjkk wjkf

Sant Jawala Singh ji used to come to Baba Nand Singh ji and get blessed by Him.

newagesikh wrote

SO by looking for truth is the work of a true Sikh. By just accepting what some AmritDhari Sikh says is not being a true Sikh.

I did not say that you should not look for truth . It is good to do khoj . And i also did not say accept wt some amritdhari sikh says .

i told you do not have doubts on your guru if u want to be called a sikh . accept what he says .

Why Guru's will use Ram to refer 'Lord'. they should have used Nanak.[/qoute]

We cannot say guru should have written that or something else . we cannot judge our guru's works

wjkk wjkf

My theory says it refers to Hindu God Ram and the verses or Shabad containing it, are Bani of Bhagats like Kabir.

But in translation it alwyas refers to as 'Lord'.

well newagesikh ,

ur theory is wrong . "Ram" is just referred as a name of GOD . There are countless names of God like gobind,gopal, hari, rab, parmeshwar,parmatma,nirankar , waheguru , ishwar , ik onkar , god, etc.

Ram is also like a name of the God used in Gurbani .

But it is also true that some shabds refer ram as sri ramchandar ji . there is no doubt in that .

The name that we have to repeat is Waheguru ,this is our gurmantar.

Why Guru's will use Ram to refer 'Lord'. they should have used Nanak.

gur kahya so kar kamavho gur ki karni kahe dhavo

do as wt guru ji says to do . don't debate that guru ji should have done this or done that . sikhs have no authority for questionig over guru's tasks . if some one does that he isnot sikh .

"oh banda hi sikhiyon kharaj hai jo apne guru te shanka jaan kintu prantu karda hai . oh sikh nahi kehla sakda "

Baba Nand Singh Ji Maharaj

So nimrta sahit benti hai , don't waste time in analyzing guru 's work according to ur own budh , do wt he says to u .

amrit shak ke singh bano, naam japo , nitnem karo and dharam di karo kirat , te satsangat shadni nahi and then u will achive place in dargah

bhul chuk maaf

wjkk wjkf

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very true