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17 hours ago, paapiman said:
ਕ੍ਰਿਪਾਨ
- The one which protects the honour
- The one which shows no mercy
Bhul chuk maaf
isn't there relation with the term kirpa and kirpan?
It says "no mercy" above , but kirpa= mercy . see below
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The word "Kirpan" (Gurmukhi: ਕਿਰਪਾਨ ) has two roots - the first root is: Kirpa (ਕਿਰਪਾ ) which means "Mercy, grace, compassion, kindness" and the second root is Aan (ਆਨ ) which in turn means "Honor, grace, dignity". So together the word stands for "the dignity and honor of compassion, kindness and mercy".
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3 hours ago, Xylitol said:From my own experience I have revealed some slight element of my spiritual state to a class of youth. I originally told them in a roundabout way about parkash they can receive when doing simran without mentioning my own name. They asked me if I saw it as well. I avoided the question b/c I didn't want to disclose it... they asked again and I said yes. And after that I felt that I lost much of the prakash.
The moral of the story is never ever reveal your spiritual kirpa to anyone who is skeptical of you. If they won't believe you you can suffer a loss. However, if they will believe you it can be a big punn. When in doubt, don't reveal it. This is my own very bitter experience.
To reveal it to someone more advanced is fine if we need to discuss to ask them questions. But the danger comes when we reveal it to nastik people, or people who have doubts.
Totally get you there.
I would never discuss with anyone in person, unless they are more advanced. I've learnt from my fair share of repercussions. On that note, I'd probably say a wee bit more on here because you only know me as DeNiro. But I'm still going to practice restraint and keep energies away from nastiks and sakats.
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3 hours ago, Xylitol said:
I emphasize satsangat so much b/c their energy helps an incredible amount, speaking from my experience. In comparing my rate of advancement before I started doing regular satsangat vs. back when I did more bhagti at home it is a truly immense eye-opening difference. And it's owed all to satsangat.
I get you. A few of my breakthroughs happened in the company of likeminded sangat.
Have you or anyone else on here experienced other sangat? as in the mind joining sangat on other planes?
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On 10/2/2018 at 1:55 AM, tva prasad said:
Are you kindly willing to share a little more about the importance of the colour red (spiritually)?
There are a couple of different stages when "red" is experienced. Gurbani has the answers and an abyasee can interpret these for themselves according to levels of proficiency. In short, I know there may be encounters with colors earlier on in the game , and many hopefuls have got lost at these stages. Reason why teachers instruct students to NOT look for colors. I shouldn't be saying too much here since I may face some negative repercussions. Nevertheless, seeing as you all know me as Goodfella DeNiro ……….I can add # If you've seen the clarity of your mind's jot and the prakash of waheguru around you, then once you've crossed the second bhavsagar(after reaching naam), the true color can reveal itself from your own colorless, but illuminated jot...
On 10/2/2018 at 2:01 AM, angy15 said:What does SGGS says abt RED color or any color ? Can anyone provide shabads, because our Guruji have been in the highest avastha and he would have definitely give us some information in SGGS.
Dear Angie, I've no idea why you made the above comment with reference to my question below. I was asking if any of the pacharaks mentioned the spiritual significance of RED? I had only skipped through and listened to a few snippets for the reasons I mentioned.
On 10/2/2018 at 1:22 AM, DeNiro said:Has anyone one of the above pacharaks mentioned the significance of red and what lal rang kisko lagaah is referring to spiritually?
Red is an important color and a few thngs happen at that avastha. Most advanced abyasees know this. Have any of the above mentioned it because I'm unable to sit through and listen attentively.
Problem is there are two sides to the coin here. The topic of red color spiritually has nothing to do with what color you physically wear. The spiritual aspects are the other side of the coin to the physical aspects. When you see Red in maya, then it is NOT the same as experiencing the love of red in turiya avastha.
It appears to me, the arguments some people are having are a waste of time because there are two different matters that can't be correlated.
I have no idea whether wearing red is good or bad, and have no right speculating that some rehatnama saying so, maybe wrong. If your rehatnama says so, then stick to it. Stay away from red. Respect the rules. Learn to discipline yourself. Red is the heaviest color in maya. It's the most vibrant color coming from white light. I don't see anything wrong with disciplining yourself to stay away from something in maya. End result will make Mind stronger and that's what the game is all about.
Gurbani doesn't say whether to wear red or not. One cannot equate the spiritual significance of color red to wearing red clothes. Gurbani talks about Red color on a totally different level. When you start associating it in maya, then it's a whole new ball game.
There are many shabads that mention color red, but I can't recall one stating anything about wearing red or not to wear. If someone has interpreted it in that sense, well good luck to them. What do I care anyway? as De Niro famously says " I'm bound for the promised land"
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okay,if I understood this correctly...….. The ojas is actually the subtle energy in spinal fluid that travels up and down chakras?? possibly in cerebrospinal fluid(CSF)??
and if so, then this same energy can either be transformed and directed upwards to a perfect God like divine energy or it can be directed downwards without effort like gravity, into dirty/sexual energy ?
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On 6/20/2015 at 7:32 PM, Lucky said:
The key is in having the initial motivation to channel as much internal energy towards spiritual ascension. Then. kaami thoughts, or intentions occurring in day to day life, will slowly begin to diminish. Seriously, you don't have to force yourself to look the other way or try forcing thoughts out of your mind. Neither do you need to suppress them, as that just leads to the common abstinence problem mentioned. I reckon it kind of comes naturally with increased meditation, just as desires for taste of tongue diminish, the desires for possessions and desires for power...then the carnal desires also follow route and begin to fade away.
So true ha ha. It's well known fact in some areas that youth of certain jatha groups are sexually frustrated & hard up. It becomes obvious from their street lingo and talk as wel as some of them getting caught.
A good topic that I've never really pondered much on. I'll probably read further into it now.
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On 9/30/2018 at 10:02 PM, dalsingh101 said:
Now I love dogs, but it has to be said, they are in some ways like having a retarded follower
What? retarded?
On 9/30/2018 at 10:02 PM, dalsingh101 said:that is completely dependent on you. Go missing for a few days, or just leave it outside for a few hours to fend for itself and it will be in serious trouble.
It respects it's master and acknowledges who owns it. Dog's can survive very well on their own in their natural habitats like Huskies. But generally, the problem of today's dogs is that they've been too domesticated and yes, they do end up in malnutrition/ill states when abandoned.
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Has anyone one of the above pacharaks mentioned the significance of red and what lal rang kisko lagaah is referring to spiritually?
Red is an important color and a few thngs happen at that avastha. Most advanced abyasees know this. Have any of the above mentioned it because I'm unable to sit through and listen attentively.
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6 minutes ago, tva prasad said:
If we can get gian from someone/something we should, instead of finding faults within them. We should not be worshiping them or idolising them as some people may do ***cough, cough... Dhadri fan accounts on insta and people calling giani thakur singh ji a brahmgiani...cough, cough***
Right now, we are like young trees that need a stick (gian from trustworthy parcharik, etc.) to support them to stand up right. However, once one gets to a certain stage, one gets gian from within without ever acquiring it from outside sources, also gurbani begins to make more sense as deeper philosophies are understood. We can learn from both, positive as well as negative people, but are we willing to?
Don't put anyone on a pedestal. Respect anyone who helps you in any way to raise your surti, but don't put them on a pedestal. Yes, gianni is not a brahmgyaani as brahmgyanee is a misused term in my opinion. Brahmgyanee is not referred to a jeev. A jeev/manook with physical body comes to a life end. Brahmygaani is an avastha of the mind. That mind sits in Prakash/turiya avastha all the while. The Sukhmani sahib references are for the brahmgian state of mind and not a physical jeev.
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On 9/30/2018 at 10:31 AM, learner said:I respect all Gursikhs including Bhai Randhir Singh ji. Why did he not ask Guru ji directly about Ragmala ? I always have had this question.
I don't know to be honest but bhai saab has helped encourage huge numbers into sikhi and that;s probably what I try to focus on. But yes, I never quite understood about raagmala because he must have gone through various avstha's where raags are heard and experienced. Some of these levels come quite early after hearing naam and I remember being confused over this issue after I first heard them.
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On 9/29/2018 at 5:19 AM, Soulfinder said:
Thats really good veer ji that you got a chance to meet him. Concard used to really expensive to fly i heard compared to regular flights.
I went a number of times with BA as a courier. That way I'd get the flight for 200 quid single way, whereas it'd normally be 4500 quid. I was a part time student in my 20's in those days.
On 9/29/2018 at 5:19 AM, Soulfinder said:Nowdays i don't enjoy movies as much as i used to since doing my paaths banis etc.
I know what you mean. You go through periods in life where it changes. I've had a number of years when I stayed away from all tv and media entertainment nd just focused on bhagti and finding myself (soul searching like your username)
Nowadays, I still enjoy the same movies, but I have a much better perspective and perception. I tend to view them through a lenses of all the characters/actors in their roles, whereas in my youth, I'd be watching through main characters lens only and focusing only on his actions/reactions. Have a tendency to watch anything but seeing it from behind the veil.
On 9/29/2018 at 5:19 AM, Soulfinder said:Are you based in USA veer ji ?
Currently in U.S.
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On 8/14/2018 at 7:06 PM, Lucky said:
Wow, that's an excellent write up. You have to pay attention to the details that are summarized.
I will look at it closely when I get back, but was pleased to note some similarities with my elementary attempt on stages of sunn that I did in a thread some months back. My summary was based on different materials I had read, some experiences, gurbani pangtees and more importantly the layout of darbar sahib. I will look into the above for further gains for better insight.
Admirable write up and explanations of sunn levels.
It takes a deep-seated understanding with experience to make head and tails of these topics. I agree with your summaries and they ring true with my practicing.
I'll send you a pm to discuss a couple of the climatic finale encounters in line with what some very high kamayee wale singhs have explained to me. I've turned over many leaves in the process, but my ultimate turning point was taking amrit after I started hearing shabad.
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On 9/26/2018 at 3:51 PM, tva prasad said:
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You just blanked "DeNiro"?
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On 9/26/2018 at 2:50 PM, Soulfinder said:
Personally when i was at rock bottom as a teen Sant Niranjhan Singh Ji book really really changed my life (for which i have posted a link for in this thread). It was like being born again when i had finished it as my jeevan really changed a lot.
Good book, yes. I read it along time ago when I was in a phase of continuous reading, so, I don't recall much of it.
On 9/26/2018 at 2:50 PM, Soulfinder said:I see that you have a pic of taxi driver with robert deniro and your username is de niro. Are you a fan veer ji as i really liked taxi driver and many of his other movies as well.
Yes I'm a huge fan. Back in the day when Concord used to fly from London to New York, I was lucky enough to chat with him on flight we shared in 1999.
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6 hours ago, tva prasad said:I think I know which pavan shabad you are talking of, they're like the high pitched frequencies that vary at times. Those don't really have the same magnetism as what I hear. The sounds really draw my attention whereas, the frequencies or pavan shabads did not.
That's incorrect today. Tomorrow, you never know!
The high pitched frequencies are what you want to follow. The other sounds you hear are pavan shabads or non-anhad. The panj anhad shabad in unison are heard in sunn. Suffice to say, you are not experiencing those from what you mention. Seems like you are jumping ahead of yourself. Need to be careful because trying to jump ahead is too easy and you can end up wasting months and years.
There s no such thing as yogic anhad or gurmat anhad. Anhad is anhad, period. You need to put attention to saas saas and the primordial sound. Its no good me jumping ahead and telling you the higher rungs of ladder. You need to climb the lower paurees with confidence and determination.
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13 minutes ago, tva prasad said:
Yeah, I've been hearing the 5 shabad in unionisation non-stop. So it just happens for a short time and one shall hear the Anhad toor? Can you explain the Anhad toor in more detail, please?
Thanks, man.
1) Where are you hearing these in unionization? I mean, where is your mind settled?
2) There should be 2 other things happening at the same time if you can hear the final sages of panj shabad. .. if nothing else is happening, then they are most likely pavan shabads, UNLESS, you are getting mixed up with the ringing sound which is like baseline shabad?
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9 hours ago, Soulfinder said:
Many of Bhai Randhir Singh Ji books are worth reading as well.
Unditthi Duniya is a really good book as it talks about ghosts pretts dharam raj life after death.
This book i have at home which i am gonna start reading at daytime cos its not a night time due to its nature. Many people would not be able handle this writting as it talks about their real life experinces with ghosts jamdhots.
http://www.bsrstrust.org/store/english/
http://www.mahapurakh.com/bhai-randhir-singh-english
http://sikhbookclub.com/Book/Unditthi-Duniya-Mystical-Invisible-World
they are good books but they can easily be misinterpreted and not understood. Especially if one is reading whilst on the bhagti marg path. I found, along with some other abyasees, that there were some serious errors. especially when it came to "anhad".
In my opinion, the book by "bandiginama " bhai Ragbir Singh was more helpful. As I was making the efforts on journey, I referrd back to the book a dozen times and always found something new to relate to, whereas i didn't with other books.
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On 9/22/2018 at 4:28 AM, tva prasad said:
What happens after 5 shabad are heard in unionisation?
Do you mean when 5 shabad are all heard together?
This is a short stage that occurs before you enter the gurudwara inside you. The 5 shabad should be recognizable from earlier levels of avastha. At that time, your mind wasn't quite still or in sunn and they would have occurred separately. At the guru's dwar, the panj shabad sound, and by now you should have killed the 5 dhoots as well. It's just a momentarily occurrence in unison before the sound of loud anhad toor comes.
I've know a few fellow abyasees who have got to the these 5 shabads and then got scared or pulled back when they heard the toor. A gurmukh advised that it's because their foundations weren't solid enough and needed more hours listening to shabad.
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Whatever gyani says, has to be taken with a pinch of salt. It's a well known fact that he is gappi and likes to exaggerate.
As for the allegations, ..and the incidence,.. I do know who the family is and some of their relations. I can't say on here who they are, but they have a well known business around wednesbury/wolverhampton area in West Midlands.
Regardless, Gyani jee has done some good kathas in the past but I don't listen to him any longer, and stopped many years ago. on my personal scale of whether I would make effort to go listen to him, i'd say 2/10. Whereas for someone like Baba Darshan Dakki sahib..it would be 11/10..
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On 9/17/2018 at 4:48 PM, BhagatSingh said:
I don't agree. He isn't pronouncing the siharis.
You can't be serious?
In the video below, you can't hear the siharees??
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On 9/13/2018 at 2:02 PM, MrDoaba said:
@BhagatSingh Listen to this recording, it is pretty shudh IMO. You will get a better idea of siharis, aunkars etc
Excellent!
"there's 3 ways of doing things around here: the right way, the wrong way and the way that it's supposed to be done"
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cats are a bad choice for pets. They are not like dogs. A dog trains to respect, protect and answer to his owner. The owner becomes master and the dog obeys.
Cats, on the other hand, don't like to respond to humans. Even if you give them a name, the cat will only respond or come to you if it feels like it. Mostl, when you have some milk or plate of food.. Cats just use humans. They wander off and roam the streets all day just pissin about making territories, they ONLY come back when its time to slep or eat some grub.
What do I think of cats? … dirty, arrogant, manipulative, don't respond to "no", evil little monsters..
Koreans and Vietnamese got it right. They don't keep cats as pets, they cook'em up and eat them.
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7 hours ago, tva prasad said:I guess it's just a stage in spiritual progress. One day I was just sitting and I happened to see a light around my sister. Then I saw it appearing around others. I also checked my hand and it was there.
good man. Seeing aura comes as avastha. Happens before you start seeing prakash around you.
Early on in thread it's mentioned that you should feel the auras and their vibrations. I agree. I found it was also good practice to still the mind, since you can only see aura once the mann is tikkya in one place.
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Good man.
You remind me of myself when I was about 23/24 yrs age. Doing the banis was the ignition that got me climbing. I'd say it lay the foundations that gave further discipline and dedication. I maximized the hours and began cutting off from maya with time. This was preliminary for getting all amped and psyched when I began serious years of bhagti.