Jageera

20 hours ago, dalsingh101 said:

Not at all. The non white immigrants didn't just turn up uninvited and start taking over the land. Whites actually brought them in to do stuff they either couldn't or didn't want to do originally. 

And then let's look at white people jumping into other countries, messing up the existing political balance and creating hell on earth - which leads to a mass exodus - i.e. refugee crisis. 

I think South Americans like Colombians, and others like Paks or Afghans do more to spread hardcore drugs about than blacks btw, because they actually manufacture them. There are lots of dealers in London. They are every last colour.  So I don't think being black and drug dealing is connected.  You talk about prostitution - in the UK right now it's brown (Paks) and whites (Eastern Europeans) that dominate this 'business' nowadays. Not blacks. 

You talk about blacks enjoying the benefits of what whites brought to them in SA? Which ones? Certainly not the ones ram packed in shanty towns, who had to sit watching whites live in luxury whilst they were living like third rate citizens on their own land. What, you seriously think that a black man would have the same chances of employment as a white man in some lucrative job? Seriously......

 

If the black had the same qualification and work ethic then I'm sure he will find success one way or the other. I am not talking only about the UK here. In south east asia here these people are doing the same things. Number 1 on crime. Why? Who's so called oppressing them now here? The amount of rapes,murders and drug crimes these African "students" commit here outnumber all other races here. Why so?

I was talking specifically about the south african boers while you group all whites as 1 group. Tell me what wars did the boers started in the modern world? I see them as victims who are still suffering till today.Watch some documentaries on 'farm murders and rapes' in south africa.  

Where did I say the blacks were enjoying benefits in south africa?That comment was towards immigrants IN britain now.

"As a Sikh you should get that because, the very idea of a Sikh society is rooted in equality. "- I prefer not to mix religion and politics as we have to be pragmatic in politics and commit machiavellian acts that could go against religious teachings. If Sikhs ever had an own country I dont want us to end up like south africans or worse, European countries now who admitted in millions of rapefugees that will never assimilate all in the name of humanity and equality. I reject these virtue signalling and put the Punjabi Sikh first before anything else. Even if it means blowing up boats filled with lazy,filthy,criminal blacks coming to invade to receive freebies,welfare and a chance to rape and pillage as usual. Those who have fantasies of having their own nation,should be willing to rot in hell for eternity for what they have to do to ensure the creation and continuity of their nation. Take Israel for example. The pioneer zionist committed atrocities no doubt but look at what its become today and look at their quality of life there now.Paradise.

Again I believe those that preach equality with blacks should uproot their family and go live in the blackest area of town or even better,migrate to africa.Live your dream life with your fellow "equals".Id pay good money to see how long that lasts.

The west was stupid it followed the advice of the left and the Internationalist owned media to allow such mass immigration.Now they will suffer.If they give up guns they will end up as the South african.

Again my original post was about the arms trade.My comment on South africa was just to make a point.I didn't know DalSingh Veerji you had so strong feelings and affections for the blacks. This confuses me as to why are you still in the evil white mans UK and not in your lovely Motherland Africa to rebuild Wakanda with yo Brothas and sistas?Ayways,take care brotha,east side west side,flash a couple of gang signs, bling bling,twerk twerk imma gonna bounce from this thread yo.

21 hours ago, dalsingh101 said:

Yeah but then you open up the topic of people being allowed to remain owners of their own ancestral lands. I'm not doubting that whites did do all those developmental things you talk about - but does that justify land grabs and subjugation? What about all the savagery that lies behind it - that most whites shy away from facing - is that justified? 

Should people be allowed to live like their culture dictates on their own land essentially? Even if this is deemed 'inferior' or 'under-developed'  by other communities standards? Or does this lack of development by western standards justify violent land grabs in order to 'civilise' these people? 

And was the purpose of these invaders ever actually about some perceived benevolence towards the original inhabitants, or where they just seen as objects/obstacles to their own aspirations and agendas. 

If you're going to talk about the violence and savagery in SA right now, can you honestly say that this is definitely not a consequence of white interjection and the changes it causes to society?   Because, from what it looks like, wherever they go - this is how things end up eventually. Look  at our own traditional homeland and partition for an example close to home. You can see the madness that was brought about in Iraq and Syria recently too. 

No one can change the past but talk about right now. Right now I see the blacks as a cancer wherever they go. East or west,drugs,prostitution,murder,rape,scams is a hallmark of their race.I find it weird that descendants of immigrants on the white mans country are attacking what the ancestors of the whites did a long time back while enjoying all the benefits of the white mans country which they would never have enjoyed back in their third world shithole. If Boers who lived there and cultivated the land for hundreds of years had no claim to that country,then I can also say that all non white immigrants in white countries too have no right on that land and they should all get back on their boats and go back. Fair?

All Im saying blaming the current people for their ancestors deeds makes no sense. At the same time explaining away black criminal behavior as a result of their past history makes no sense either because everyone should take responsibility for their own behavior.As I see it TODAY it's not the white man doing all the raping,killing and violence.No amount of leftist or SJW propaganda can change this fact.

Just some food for thought,if the "heathen" Chinese could withstand British attacks and attempts at colonization and only lost Hong Kong for 99 years how come did the great brave Sikhs who had a great religion crumble,fail and ended up as the white mans loyal dog and now the hindoos pet dog while the Chinese are on their way to rule the world now? I wonder if it has something to do with the high IQ rate of East Asians.

On 7/17/2019 at 8:12 PM, Soulfinder said:

Veer ji science says a lot of stuff that i find hard to believe especially things like the big bang theory or how humans came from monkey apes.

Wholeheartedly agree with you Veerji. No way in hell did we originate from monkeys. If we did evolve from monkeys,why didn't monkeys evolve into humans already?

I am convinced this is an Internationalist Money Masters/Capitalists plot to corrupt education system and the sciences with rubbish so as to "Debunk" religion and to lead the masses into consumerism. You can read up on this online. The International Money Masters that Invented and even funded Communism(Jacob Schiff) wanted to create a new man whose only duty in life was to consume. Thats all. No divinity, no God. Just food,sex and getting intoxicated. It is designed to keep the masses under control of the minority Capitalist elite.

In the same breath I also don't believe in dinosaurs as it's a creation of the 20th century. Again the goal was the same. To debunk God and religion and create a multi billion dollar bullshit industry that still infects this world today. Factories in China have been exposed manufacturing so called "Dinosaur bones". Of course skeptics would say " but they measured the age of the bones to be millions of years old". But again,all testing facilities are under their control and they all cover up for each other for economic reasons as to not kill their multi billion dollar golden goose.

2 hours ago, dalsingh101 said:

I'm not condoning the violence but is that really their country anyway? 

Who's was it before the Boers? What great empire was based there? Any country or government? None at all. The Boers built that country from scratch, battled with the British and came out victorious.According to my observation the demonizing of South African Boers was just an International Capitalist agenda to chase out the Whites from power and put in place corrupt and violent blacks that would allow International corporations to exploit the country and its natural resources to the max. Apartheid was the only thing protecting the Whites against hordes of violent criminal blacks there just like how the Occupation and Wall in Israel prevents Muslim terrorists from exterminating the Jewish population. No need to look far,just imagine instead of Whites it was us Punjabi Sikhs the majority in South Africa,how would we have reacted? Would we be living and mingling freely with those violent criminal blacks? I highly doubt that.

But the fact remains that they did build the country to what it is now. No way in hell could the black africans build up south africa into what it is today.It was A nuclear weapon armed state back then. Look at South Africa today, a crime ridden failing state that is facing a water crisis. Again,South Africa was just an example. My main point was about being armed. Without arms you are always at the mercy of others.

19 hours ago, dalsingh101 said:

On another note, should our Panjab itself also invest and build up an arms manufacturing industry for economic reasons? We had one previous to goray turning up. 

The powers that be there will never allow Punjab to have an arms industry. They have built an arms industry in tamil nadu but they will never allow Sikhs to accumulate the knowledge of arms manufacture. They have traitors like "Captain" Amarinder Singh and the Badals on the other side as gatekeepers to ensure the Sikhs continue bowing down to their holy cow and never have thoughts of self determination.

This reminds me of the early Zionists in British Palestine who had militias and underground weapons factories producing guns and ammunition to be used against the British.I know many would disagree with me but If we had leaders like the Zionists had even though they were mostly militant atheist,we would have had a homeland a long time ago.Unfortunately for us we are a race that doesn't allow for leaders to be cultivated.Anyone that tries to lead we bring that person down.

22 hours ago, dalsingh101 said:

This is more like an infomercial than a comedy.....lol

 

Typical Leftie virtue signalling in this video. Nothing wrong with the arms industry. Either you are in it or not. Those who forsake arms will be enslaved by internal or external foes.When you are in the arms manufacture industry the only thing you should ensure is that the damn things work properly and don't jam,backfire or malfunction while in battle.Those who "pretend" to worry about morality and "women&children" should go sit in some buddhist temple. Weapons ARE the only thing that can ensure the safety and wellbeing of women&children. Those who are unable to arm theirselves will face ethnic cleansing,mass rape & genocide. Gun control is a huge thing in the west now.Watch and see what happens when they give up their guns in America,they will end up just like the White South Africans, rape&murder victims in their own country.

3 hours ago, Mooorakh said:

Probably they have Intentionally not included those who have answered correctly... how's this possible that NOT ONE person knows about the real history? 

I guess it could probably be his intention to point out the lack of Sikhi knowledge by many Sikhs today hence he omitted the ones that answered correctly. Just my 0.2.

18 hours ago, Soulfinder said:

Veer ji i am glad to help. Doing ardas is really easy i myself can't read or write in punjabi but i know it off by heart as the opening of ardas is from chandi di vaar which i have been reading for over 3 years. 

 

Here is a english roman script of ardas and hopefuly you can start learning it using a audio from youtube and repeating the words the same way i did with my paaths banis etc.

https://www.learnreligions.com/ardas-with-original-gurmukhi-and-english-translation-2993121

Thanks Veerji.I'll start trying to hear youtube and get the pronounciation right.

Is Ardas to be done daily?

12 hours ago, Soulfinder said:

@Jageera veer ji its really good that you keeping up the hard work. Believe its not a easy task stopping a habbit of any sort and its not going to away straight away. 

 

So you probably are having withdrawl symptoms which is normal and thats why your mind is playing tricks on you as you are trying to programe it via paath simran. So its best to ignore the minds thought craving and focus on the jaap and everything will be ok. 

 

Also keep doing ardas as well and keep yourself occupided with as much religious material as you can.

Thanks for the motivation Veerji. I don't know how to do Ardaas,always had a Granthi do it. 

12 hours ago, chatanga1 said:

Bro, having never been an addict of such I can't offer such advice but I want to ask whether you have ever considered hypnotherapy? On Youtube it seems that it has worked for some people.

No Veerji, I haven't heard  of it before but I will look into it. I quit drink & smokes on November 15th last year,the day I made this thread. 200 days clean already. Now I'm just maintaining. Will check out some youtube vids. I just searched and found some. Just need the extra motivation to keep going on.Thanks.

On 6/1/2019 at 7:45 AM, tva prasad said:

Further there is this whole 'family reputation' crap as opposed to daughter's wellbeing when it comes to the grooming of our daughters and sisters.

15 hours ago, kdsingh80 said:

Because secretly Lot of sikhs are still in deep.love with congress .You can go to social media and see how sikhs are part of pro congress groups. They are just dying to pass blame to RSS and BJP for events of 80s.

Lol.

I've read a few articles too by so called Sikh "liberal intellectuals" who were portraying Modi's election victory as the end of days for minorities.

Look at west bengal with mamta banerji ruling with her invincible party there.

And then look at Punjab where "captain" Amarinder Singh needs to ask Master Rahul's permission to get rid of Navjot Singh.

https://www.indiatoday.in/elections/lok-sabha-2019/video/captain-amarinder-singh-asks-rahul-gandhi-to-choose-between-him-or-navjot-singh-sidhu-1533633-2019-05-24

On 5/27/2019 at 7:25 PM, tva prasad said:

Not trying to be pessimistic but, if we look at it realistically, it is near impossible. The thing is everyone blames each other and ignore their own faults. I'm not trying to point fingers at anyone on this forum, rather I'm just saying that in general people turn a blind eye to their faults while blaming others for the same. That is where the problem starts. Cognitive dissonance and hypocrisy seem to be rather big issues, in general. I think the world would be a much better place, if instead of ridiculing  eachother for faults, we focus on improving ourselves and encouraging eachother to do the same. I believe any solution is ineffective if we aren't willing to change ourselves, first, otherwise we are the biggest problem as we are doing exactly what we are opposing, this is hipocrisy and cognitive dissonance. Understanding and communication is also important among people. 

Further, people seem to have a rather messed up moral compass. I'm still trying to observe this behaviour. If someone is in a position of authority or in a position recognised as 'holy', people automatically assume that that person is indeed faultless. I think people tend to think in terms of black and white, they don't necessarily know what righteouness is. Righteouness is to oppose corrupt authority not to respect the same. Believe it or not, some people think that respecting authority even if they are corrupt, is morally right compared to opposing them. That is just one example among many that indicates people know not morals. It is indeed a crooked world we live in.

All in all, what I wish to say is that people who are major partakers of a problem are often ignorant of their part in the same. They very frequently tend to ignore their own faults. The main thing would be to bring greater awareness on their impact on the problem. This is very hard. People will find it painful to see their own faults, it's like medicine, bitter and detestable but it is the solution. For example, if we take the bangra dancers or the booze gurglers into account, I doubt they will see much wrong with their actions. If they do, it is cognitive dissonance. Therefore, most problems stem from internal feuds or ego. 

I hear what you are saying but doing nothing would be worse than doing something and not succeeding. It will take time and many failures to achieve any significant result.We would really be in trouble when our panth stops trying.

The least that we can do as a community would be protecting our young girls from exploitation and sexual grooming, keeping males away from drugs etc and a community support network that protects the community from outside hostility. What is the point of everything else when we are failing at the basics.

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/actor-sunny-deol-new-role-as-lawmaker-after-bjp-scores-landslide-win-2042186

And more good news. Congrats to Sunny paaji.

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/punjab-chief-minister-amarinder-singh-thanks-people-for-party-victory-2042845

I am not familiar with Punjab politics but came across this after news of Modi's monumental victory in the elections was all over the internet.

Realized that while many states totally rejected Congress(14states), Punjab gave 8 seats to Congress.

My question is why? After 84 I'm surprised this party even exists in Punjab.

Are Sikhs in Punjab being threatened to support Congress or are they suffering from Stockholm Syndrome? Or are they intoxicated as usual by Madam "Gandhi's" wrinkled gori bonde?

Why doesn't Punjab have a local party in Power? Look at tamil nadu where the local party DMK won big.

Again I'm not familiar with Punjab politics and would like input from those who have a better understanding of this topic.

On 5/22/2019 at 6:28 PM, dalsingh101 said:

Yes, but not only that, but wasting time showing off, riding around in big cars blaring bhangra out. Obsessing about materialistic things and your caste whilst being blind to the panth being attacked. Being too scared to confront authority but trying to act like big men. 

All the dikhaavaah stuff apnay get up too. Petty one-upmanship between each other and ignoring what outsiders are doing like an ostrich. 

 

How do we change this behaviour Veerji? Any suggestions. If you are free you should start writing an article on this issue with criticisms and solutions step by step. We could make it a group project here with all contributing. Would love to hear more on this.

10 hours ago, dalsingh101 said:

We should all note how these guys aren't doing the usual small minded bull5hit apnay get up to. 

Please elaborate. Are you talking about victim blaming and cover ups because of the family's so called izzat?

These Sikhs are doing a great service by raising awareness on this issue.More power to them. Thank you DalSingh Veerji too for keeping us updated.