Jageera

14 hours ago, dalsingh101 said:

That letting go of the thoughts and not reacting to them, or letting them waft off into nothingness is a skill that gets better and better as you practice. 

You're already noticing a shift in the right direction, even if it is only a small one right now. 

Keep at it. Don't give up. 

Thanks.I trying to do this as much as I can although some thoughts do get through and I start getting lost in the stories and fantasies.

Another thing wanted to ask you.When I do the breathing simran I tend to alternate it with either verbal simran or mental simran without the breathing.Is this OK?

When you lose interest and focus do you still push yourself to do simran or do you stop and do it another time?

18 hours ago, das said:

I'm sorry as it didn't help you. Please continue with whatever helps you. God bless you.

One more additional tip in regards to "How to handle the thoughts":

try NOT to think about a thought that comes; just start thinking something else. e.g You're standing on the road watching the traffic, you see lot of cars going but you don't start thinking about each car and/or the person sitting inside. Same way, you your mind (road) will always have lot of cars (thoughts), the secret is NOT to entertain the thought and do NOT attach to your thought. Just watch and let it go; just like the same way we just watch the cars and don't get attached to what we saw. This is one of the tried and tested method as taught by various Saints.

Don't be sorry veerji.I haven't finished the experiment.Ran out of H.salt.Only tried the 3 tablespoons for 2 days and ran out.Will buy more the next time and try for longer.

Ya I'm working on it.Now I realised thought control is everything.Thanks.

On a side note,just noticed the emblem on the veers shirt in the 2nd video.I don't think it's a good move to link that struggle to this one.

Now for sure the other side is going to start a smear campaign against this Singh and his outfit accusing him of all sorts.Thats their usual M.O.

Starting a two front battle at once usually leads to failure and total annihilation.This veer should just focus on the grooming issue and let other outfits which I'm sure there are many to handle the Punjab issue.This way he will insulate Sikh Youth from smear campaigns,attacks and accusations of being linked to militants etc.

He can then concentrate fully on the grooming issue with less pressure.Comments disabled on that youtube vid so I thought I'll just post this here.

5 hours ago, samurai2 said:

Just to add, there's also responses like ' Sikh girls shouldn't have.dated etc with those sulleh'. My view is that even if an apney just wanted a shag and was lustfull, she still does not deserve to.be exploited and blackmailed etc... Put on drugs and prostituted out to dirty old pakis for those who are naive to what goes on..

Agreed. Another issue is that we keep the genders segregated within the race. So when they get sexually matured and have urges they look outside the community to satisfy their lust to not 'lose face' and be labeled as a 'kenjeri'. So the next best thing is to allow and encourage dating etc within the race. It is happening anyhow. If they can't do it with their own they will look for outsiders.Just being pragmatic.

Sexual criminal gangs look for weak targets.If people from a community start hitting back the majority of them will stay away.If nothing is done they will continue because people like this don't understand words or the law.

Spreading controversial message? Doing more harm than good? Very easy for that so called journalist to pass judgment when it is the children of others who suffer and not hers.

Living in denial and pretending all is fine is the real culprit that is doing more harm than good.

In this age of political correctness the truth always seems controversial especially when it doesn't fit the narrative of the powers that be.

I don't see Sikh Youth doing any harm.At least someone is doing something.Burglars think twice before robbing a house with 2 rottweilers.

Without a doubt it is religiously motivated.The pedo in the vid himself admitted he would not groom a pakistani muslim girl.

On 2/4/2019 at 5:28 PM, JKOankaar said:

thanks for pointing me and my friends in the right direction ji.  

You are welcome ji.

On 2/4/2019 at 5:28 PM, JKOankaar said:

  Will write here my opinions on whatever i read there.  Guru fateh.

Not really necessary since many of your fellow 'intellectuals' and 'scientists' regularly make a yatra here from SPN to enlighten us heathens.I doubt you can shock us with anything new.

12 hours ago, dalsingh101 said:

Veer ji my PM box is full right now. 

1) The tongue should just slightly touch the roof, it should essentially just rest there - no significant pressure is applied. 

I'm going to tell you what works for me, and I think people adapt techniques to suit them. Remember that your lung capacity is very likely changing now that you've cut down/given up the fags. When I started simran, my breathing was very shallow at first, but this changed over time. I now go for long slow breathing. It might be a practice thing, so it might take you a little bit of sustained effort to get it?

Maybe I misled you a bit, really if I think about it, the first two syllables (WAAAAAAAAHE) are one deep drawing in of air (through the nose). 

Then I hold it in for a second. (Pause)

Now for the exhalation (which for me is the longest part), I slowly breath out to GUUUUUUUURRRUUUUUUUUUUUUU. When I get to the end I try and pause for a second again. This exhalation I repeat is much longer than the inhalation for some reason. 

Then start again: WAAAAAAAHE  

The simran should help you (in time) to let go of the triggering thoughts. 

I've been getting flashbacks too of late. But I recognise them for what they are. I don't think I was mentally ready or mature enough to fully understand and deal with the past before. I think the repressed thoughts coming out now are a sign that you are finally ready to deal with them (not that it this is easy). 

Letting go and living in this moment onwards (easier said than done) is the biggest aid to overcoming regrets like you mention. It's wahegurus hukam.

Thanks for the reply.

I have a clearer picture now.Will carry on and update in a week.

13 minutes ago, das said:

don't use that much hot water. just the warm water is enough. In regards to quantity of water, use enough water that covers your whole feet. I am assuming that you are using standard size bucket and not using bath tub.

Moreover visualization is perfect but only when you know ALL ins and outs of it. So, I would suggest without visualization as the starting point, may be just recite Waheguru during the soaking.

Rest is up to you.

Ok understood.Yes I use a standard bucket.Thank you Veerji.

1 hour ago, dalsingh101 said:

Have you had any insights into the roots causes of your anger?

Hello Veerji.Tried to pm you but you can't receive.Wanted to ask about the breathing naam jap.When I touch the tip of the tongue to the roof,do I need to apply pressure and push towards the roof or just a slight touch?

You mentioned concentrate on each syllable separately but when I do that I notice I take 2 short breaths in instead of 1 long one. And do I take long breaths in and out slowly or just short ones faster?

Thanks.

27 minutes ago, das said:

Please increase the quantity of salt from 1 tablespoon to 3 tablespoons (exactly 3). For dehydration, drink a glass of water (slowly by holding each sip in mouth for couple of seconds) after the soaking. That should kick in the process.

Ok will do.I use hot water thats cooled down a bit,when I put my feet in its very hot and I have to go in and out of the water a few times until my feet can remain in the water with no burning sensation.I also do some visualization that black negative energy is draining out of my feet and mixing into the water.

3 tablespoons of salt in how much water(liters) do you recommend?

16 minutes ago, dalsingh101 said:

Have you had any insights into the roots causes of your anger?

I believe that I have been numbing my mind with intoxicants to escape harsh realities and bad life decisions.Now without it as a crutch,I am experiencing the full effect and regrets of past actions and situations making my emotions volatile.Another issue is my memory is getting clearer now since I stopped drinking and smoking.Before this my memory was always hazy.Now it's getting clear and I am getting flashbacks of old memories,some 20 years old.The problem is I am mostly remembering negative memories that trigger anger,depression and extreme regret.

13 hours ago, dalsingh101 said:

Keep at it. Try and incorporate a little Sukhmani Sahib in as well. Breaking thought patterns isn't an overnight thing.

Slow the breathe rate too. I find the long slow exhalation on GU RU really chills me out. 

Ok.Will do.

9 hours ago, Soulfinder said:

 

Speaking of feet i had my ingrown toe nail surgery done on wednesday and luckly its not painful but just uncomfortable cos of the bandage wrapped around the foot. Luckly i got a nurse appointment to remove the wrapping and see what happens next.

All the best.

1st update.

So far no visible changes in how I feel.I still had 1 anger outburst recently.I daily do the breathing naam jap.5-15minutes.Before that I will soak feet in the salt water.I notice it dehydrates my skin,especially my palms that turn all wrinkly,but after a while it goes back to normal.Plan to carry on the feet soak till that bottle of Himalayan salt is finished.Will update again.

4 hours ago, Nalwa said:

I am trying to do sava lakh paath of thir ghar baiso har jan pyare shabad. I can do abhiyas of the shabad out loud, quietly like a whisper, and with just moving my lips and tongue and no noise coming out from my mouth. Which is the best way to sidh the shabad? 

You mean sing the shabad?Here's a link I found that could help you.

On 1/15/2019 at 2:18 AM, das said:

Try this BEFORE sitting for paath or simran.

1. Fill a small tub/bucket (so that you can dip your feet covering ankles) of Hot water.
2. Put "Himalayan/Pink Salt" (1 table-spoon)
3. Soak your feet in that water for 15-20 minutes (do NOT exceed 20 minutes and no less than 15 minutes).
4. Now, dry your feet.
5. Get rid of that water by pouring it down the toilet. Flush the toilet.
6. Now, do the Simran and/or Path.

Hopefully, you'll see the difference in first sitting.

Started today.Will update experience in a week.

1 hour ago, Soulfinder said:

I am glad to help veer ji. And yes withdrawl symptoms can create this anger as its a change of lifestyle from previous to now.

Veer ji i did a bit of reading on the subject of kundalini and what i have found on gurmatbibek.com is here based on gurbani. So its best you read these links before trying it after what i read.

http://www.gurmatbibek.com/contents.php?id=465

http://gurmatbibek.com/forum/read.php?3,19451

http://gurmatbibek.com/forum/read.php?3,1688

Thanks for the links Veerji.Always helpful.

42 minutes ago, dalsingh101 said:

Definitely do this brother. It makes a big difference and once you master it, it makes reading/pronunciation SO MUCH easier. 

Will do.Downloaded the Punjabi primer from your thread months back.All I need to do now is to open it and start.

On 1/22/2019 at 7:42 AM, Hk sikh said:

I'm 25yrs, please dont say it's natural to have wet dream every 3rd day..

Any recommendation of medication or exercise, e.g sit ups to reduce the effect of it.

Thanks

What do you see in the dream?Is it the same woman every dream?

Got this today.Gonna start using tomorrow as Veer ji Das prescribed.

11 hours ago, Soulfinder said:

@Jageera veer ji its most luckly you are getting withdrawl symptoms since you mentioned its been 2 months of you using smoke drink etc. It shall improve over time the withdrawl symptoms as its normal even i had them when my phone broke down but it will be ok in given time.

 

It is good for a walk if you can as that can help.

 

Also try to surround yourself with as much katha kirtain as you can to help with your ongoing jaap of mool mantar + salok.

Thanks for the reply Veer ji. I believe withdrawal and anger associated with it could be one of the culprits here. Been hearing Sant Maskeen ji's katha on Kundalini on youtube.This subject has taken my interest lately.Downloaded Gopi Krishnas Kundalini pdf and I just finished reading it.Going to start reading the tons of pdf's I've downloaded this past few months which I've never fully read yet.

12 hours ago, ipledgeblue said:

Read Chandi Di Vaar in your nitnem, also maybe Ugardanti and Shastar Mala.

If you concentrate on the battle in Chandi di Vaar you can expel you anger during the paat

Thanks for the reply.I am new to daily paath.Currently memorizing and improving my Japji Sahib pronunciation.Once I can recite Japji Sahib with no hiccups I plan to start reciting Anand Sahib.I hope in the future the banis you mentioned will be in my nitnem but for now It would be better for me to focus on the mandatory banis.And I should also kick myself to start learning Gurmukhi seriously.I am procrastinating so much relying on transliterations.

46 minutes ago, samurai2 said:

@Jageera Good on you with your detox.

Raag keertan helped me alot. Especially Siri raag, as its a lot of vairaag and this is more associated with heart than mind. So this may help if you are getting mentally fatigued with reading/ listening to bani simran etc.

Also physical exercise would help, simple brisk walks at night or just after you have done path/simran (which is where you find your self getting angry)

Anyway, keep it up bro!!

Thanks.I try to walk and light jog 3=5 times a week.Feel better after it.

16 hours ago, dalsingh101 said:

You know I must be going senile. I forgot one of the most powerful things for a Sikh to calm anger and anxiety down. Get some Sukhmani Sahib going on.

Ok will do.I found the version with english translation on youtube.