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Murder of Namdhari ex-head’s wife: ‘Arrest feuding nephew Dalip Singh’
Even as the police constituted a special investigation team to probe the fatal shooting of Chand Kaur, widow of former Namdhari sect head Satguru Jagjit Singh, followers sought arrest of Thakur Dalip Singh, her nephew who heads a feuding faction of the sect, for the murder on Monday.
I learnt this art of copy&paste from you penji,hope you are proud of me.
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Following the death of her husband Jagjit Singh in 2012, Kaur had supported Thakur Uday Singh as successor of the gaddi (highest guru seat). However, the opposite faction wanted Thakur Dilip Singh, the elder brother of Uday Singh, to be declared as successor. Uday Singh and Dalip Singh are sons of Maharaja Bir Singh, brother of Satguru Jagjit Singh. Satguru Partap Singh, in whose name SPS Hospitals run across the country, was father of Jagjit Singh.
Don't try to pin this on Sikhs.This was the product of the turf war of two brothers vying for the post of Namdhari "guru".The old woman was targeted because she supported an opposing faction. Lol, so even the wife of Jagjit,namdhari supremo wasn't spared by the narakdharis. Just shows their mentality.Even with living "gurus" they still act worse than donkeys.
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On 3/9/2020 at 5:28 AM, HarjasDevi said:
Y well try that in UK, USA, Canada, Germany, Malaysia.. you'll find yourself on trial for treason and terrorism and disappear.
Well people of the ethnic majority in these countries you mentioned did not rape and murder Sikhs.They do not spend billions on their intelligence agencies to suppress the Sikh faith and its followers.they do not find every way to attack and corrupt Sikhi and its youth.They do not use its media power to negatively portray Sikhs and turn them into a laughing stock. They do not have cyber troopers defending their rape and murder online on every Sikh forum just like what you and your fellow troopers here are doing.
Go ask your own people what they do to Sikhs before you start playing victim.
p/s; No,you won't "disappear" like that rape infested democracy you call India. In the countries you mentioned the rule of law is followed unlike a certain pseudo 'democracy'.You will be tried.You will be able to have legal representations and rights. Best of all even if you are tried,people of your same race or religion won't get raped and murdered on the streets by "mobs"..lol.
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On 3/9/2020 at 1:40 AM, HarjasDevi said:
Gursikhi is not about politics ever.
Not true. A Sikh is supposed to be learned and proficient in politics.That's the only way we don't end up with someones foot on our head.
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On 3/8/2020 at 6:34 AM, HarjasDevi said:
After all, I received over 14 death threats and 1 threat of rape from Sikh community... and have not ever advocated violence towards anyone at all...
I wonder who did you hound and terrorize to receive those threats?
Anyways,you're still with us right?lol the eternal victim.And now you blame an entire community for a couple of threats(im surprised it wasn't more.If a Sikh woman did the same on hindu forums she'd have thousands of threats and maybe even real attempts)
And now you're being a Hypocrite. Threats unsettle you so much but what about the people who have to endure this in real life everyday being raped and murdered by hindus?What about the women being threatened?No sympathy for them eh since they're Muslim.lol
On 3/8/2020 at 6:34 AM, HarjasDevi said:murderers of Sikhs in 1984 were not true Hindus.
oh yeah,the "true hindus" were busy denying Sikh shelter,chasing them away from hospitals,refusing them right to lodge police FIR and refusing to sell them groceries and basic needs.
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On 3/8/2020 at 6:34 AM, HarjasDevi said:
BJP did not order or sanction the murders as Congress Party did. Why are they charged as being more responsible than Congress?
They didn't have to. Congress did their dirty work for them. BJP was the most happiest. Hindutva was the true winner here as Sikh power lessened.
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On 3/6/2020 at 5:23 AM, HarjasDevi said:
Since you seem not to possess reading comprehension, allow me to copy paste what
You are the queen of copy paste penji,carry on
On 3/6/2020 at 5:23 AM, HarjasDevi said:Sikhi is what, new religion based on ancient and eternal Dharm. How can there be question of "sovereignty" or "lordship over" what is essentially the same eternal teaching? Are Guru Sahibaan not jyoti jyot Param jyot? And is Param Jyot not 'One without a Second?' And is not "Hindu" a location, and Eternal Dharma the religion? So, what is Sikhi if not discipleship of true Guru Sahibaan who are God conscious and therefore One Jyot of the eternal Lord who gives the world one eternal Dharma? I am not talking sectarianism... you are. All beings in the world contain the Absolute One Lord pervading (vis, from Sanskrit Vishnu, all pervading) within the heart (antharjami). All... Buddhists, Muslims, Christians, Parsis, Jains, Shaivites, Vaishnavas, Shaktas, Vama Margis... ALL!~ There is ONE eternal Dharma and it is NOT within the confines of "religion."
I rest my case. Look at the hatred this person has for Sikhi.Why don't you take this same bullshit and go tell this to muslims,jews and christians too that their faith comes from hinduism.I would pay to see what happens after that.
If what you say is the truth then why don't you people go convince your fellow hindus to smash your idols,throw away your tilaks and dhotis,stop drinking cow piss,burn all your vedas,purans and come join Sikhi as we are based on an ancient and eternal dharam and all are same innit?Why is it us who always have to change and accept authority of others? Maybe its time you people dumped your rubbish and come bowing to us.
If what you say was true,the Gurus would not have wasted time creating Sikhi,Why go through all the pain and trouble? There were many religions around,and as you said there is ONE eternal dharma,so why start Sikhi? Are you claiming to be smarter than the Gurus?The Gurus did start the Sikh religion so I believe they know better than you.
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7 hours ago, HarjasDevi said:
Chatanga1 calls me a whore, and I am making a drama... of course. Ban me if you want, I would expect no less from absurd anti-Hindu bashing site pretending to promote spirituality.
lol the the most violent aggressive person here is you who harasses people from thread to thread. Don't try to play victim just because you have a vagina.
You are a rabid hindu extremists,what the hell are you doing on this site ridiculing Sikhs and Sikhi every chance you get.
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On 3/6/2020 at 5:06 AM, HarjasDevi said:
An ethnic cleansing is it... with what, 44 people dead in riots?
So sad to see that the death of 44 Human beings mean nothing to hardcore hindu extremists.
On 3/6/2020 at 5:06 AM, HarjasDevi said:May truth prevail.
You mean may your propaganda prevail and the truth be buried forever just like what you are doing to my threads.
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Delhi riots: Toddler separated in violence reunited with family
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Delhi riots: 'My brother died after police beating’ - BBC News
Naeem says his brother Faizan died after he was beaten by police during religious rioting in Delhi last week. Video of the incident has gone viral.
"We are all Indians,Don't beat us".- 2020 QUOTE in "WORLDS BIGGEST DEMOCRACY".
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13 hours ago, HarjasDevi said:
Wow, talk about blasphemy of Holy Granth and hatred of Hindu Dharma. We could engage in long, controversial and in-depth discussion. But that isn't really the point. Let me try to simplify:
Well that is your belief not mine penji. To me pointing out something that doesn't exist in the SGGS does not amount to any blasphemy. SGGS never talks about worship of Ram son of Dasrath.
And as I said,I did not come up with this,it was from videos on youtube which you too can freely access.I'm just pointing out it's one of the popular views in circulation.If that view is in your view offensive tell me what you would like to be redacted and I have no problem obliging.I am not in the business of hurting the feelings of others penji.
I don't hate any dharma but hate it when others try to walk over my head and try to rule over me.I reject sovereignty of any other dharam over Sikhi.
13 hours ago, HarjasDevi said:We can get into big long debates, current history of casteism like Ambedkar's opinions and so forth, but here is simplest dialogue explaining what is missing from modern understanding. Ravana did tapasya as well, but not because he was a sant... he was devil and did such practices for POWER to act against devatay, and to harm others.
I think you are not accurate labeling King Ravana as a Devil as wasn't he of both Brahmin and Rakshas birth?So he was 50/50.Still doesn't make him a Devil.And when they say birth from union of brahmin and rakshas,the rakshas could mean low caste women.
And where did his power come from? Wasn't it from Shiva,a major deity in the hindu trimurthi? Why would Shiva give a Devil superpower,doesn't make sense.So there is more to this story.There needs to be more research on this by a non partisan perspective.And didn't King Ravana compose the Shiva Tandava Stotram, one of the greatest compilations of praise for Shiva?
I refuse to believe that a "Devil" could compose a masterpiece of this calibre.
With his neck consecrated by the flow of water that flows from his hair,
And on his neck a snake, which is hung like a garland,
And the Damaru drum that emits the sound “Damat Damat Damat Damat”,
Lord Shiva did the auspicious dance of Tandava. May he give prosperity to all of us.I have a deep interest in Shiva
Whose head is glorified by the rows of moving waves of the celestial Ganga river,
Which stir in the deep well of his hair in tangled locks.
Who has the brilliant fire burning on the surface of his forehead,
And who has the crescent moon as a jewel on his head.May my mind seek happiness in Lord Shiva,
In whose mind all the living beings of the glorious universe exist,
Who is the companion of Parvati (daughter of the mountain king),
Who controls unsurpassed adversity with his compassionate gaze, Which is all-pervading
And who wears the Heavens as his raiment.May I find wonderful pleasure in Lord Shiva, who is the advocate of all life,
With his creeping snake with its reddish brown hood and the shine of its gem on it
Spreading variegated colors on the beautiful faces of the Goddesses of the Directions,
Which is covered by a shimmering shawl made from the skin of a huge, inebriated elephant.May Lord Shiva give us prosperity,
Who has the Moon as a crown,
Whose hair is bound by the red snake-garland,
Whose footrest is darkened by the flow of dust from flowers
Which fall from the heads of all the gods – Indra, Vishnu and others.May we obtain the riches of the Siddhis from the tangled strands Shiva’s hair,
Who devoured the God of Love with the sparks of the fire that burns on his forehead,
Which is revered by all the heavenly leaders,
Which is beautiful with a crescent moon.My interest is in Lord Shiva, who has three eyes,
Who offered the powerful God of Love to fire.
The terrible surface of his forehead burns with the sound “Dhagad, Dhagad …”
He is the only artist expert in tracing decorative lines
on the tips of the breasts of Parvati, the daughter of the mountain king.May Lord Shiva give us prosperity,
The one who bears the weight of this universe,
Who is enchanting with the moon,
Who has the celestial river Ganga
Whose neck is dark as midnight on a new moon night, covered in layers of clouds.I pray to Lord Shiva, whose neck is bound with the brightness of the temples
hanging with the glory of fully bloomed blue lotus flowers,
Which look like the blackness of the universe.
Who is the slayer of Manmatha, who destroyed the Tripura,
Who destroyed the bonds of worldly life, who destroyed the sacrifice,
Who destroyed the demon Andhaka, who is the destroyer of the elephants,
And who has overwhelmed the God of death, Yama.I pray to Lord Siva, who has bees flying all around because of the sweet
Scent of honey coming from the beautiful bouquet of auspicious Kadamba flowers,
Who is the slayer of Manmatha, who destroyed the Tripura,
Who destroyed the bonds of worldly life, who destroyed the sacrifice,
Who destroyed the demon Andhaka, who is the destroyer of the elephants,
And who has overwhelmed the God of death, Yama.Shiva, whose dance of Tandava is in tune with the series of loud
sounds of drum making the sound “Dhimid Dhimid”,
Who has fire on his great forehead, the fire that is spreading out because of the
breath of the snake, wandering in whirling motions in the glorious sky.When will I be able to worship Lord Sadashiva, the eternally auspicious God,
With equanimous vision towards people or emperors,
Towards a blade of grass and a lotus, towards friends and enemies,
Towards the most precious gem and a lump of dirt,
Toward a snake or a garland and towards the varied forms of the world?When I can be happy, living in a cave near the celestial river Ganga,
Bringing my hands clasped on my head all the time,
With my impure thoughts washed away, uttering the mantra of Shiva,
Devoted to the God with a glorious forehead and with vibrant eyes?Anyone who reads, remembers and recites this stotra as stated here
Is purified forever and obtains devotion in the great Guru Shiva.
For this devotion, there is no other way or refuge.
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13 hours ago, HarjasDevi said:
Do yourself a favor, investigate issues more deeply, be fair, prayerful and honest so that you do not become a mouthpiece for demons, for that only promotes violence and hatred, and lies. Let's promote truth and understanding in all things.
NamaskarI agree with this statement and wish that you too accept and practice your own advice penji. Being an apologist for murderous rioters is equivalent to being an accomplice.
I accept that you have strong views. So do I. Yet I still consulted you on some topics and heavily agree with you regarding some topics discussed knowing your past views. I compartmentalized for the sake of gaining new insight. Just because I disagree with someones view doesn't make them my enemy that I have to hound them from thread to thread.I am not your enemy even if you may perceive me as such.
What is true is that I have my views. I have made my mind. I refused to be silenced on it.Is that too much to ask?I don't go around burying others people thread.I believe I have that right and will carry on to do so.
It's just sad that on a "Sikh" forum,a Sikh can't voice out his opinion without being attacked.
Jai shree krishan.
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On 3/3/2020 at 3:03 AM, HarjasDevi said:
Why make sarcasm against Lord Ram whose Naam happens to be sacred bani in Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Mahraaj over 8,000 times.
Sri Guru Granth Sahib does not talk about Ram,son of King Dasrath when the word 'Ram' is used. We are not interested in that guy. He has nothing to do with Sikhi.
Although you and your crew will twist and lie based on your past post history,it still doesn't change facts.
In fact I will take 1 step further and say that Ram son of Dasrath was a mega loser who couldnt take care of his own wife.
Lakshman was a rapist who outraged the modesty of Shurpanikha,sister of King Ravan, hence the term 'cutting her nose'.She was raped by lakshman who as usual of high cast hindus,just see the lower caste women as sex toys.Ravan had to avenge his sister but even he did not stoop as low as lakshman and left sita untouched.Some sources say sita was actually happier with King Ravan,a real man than with her eunuch husband Ram son of Dasrath.
Ram son of Dasrath was also a mega racist who went on killing low caste saints for performing penance for fear that they would become brahmins.
All this has been mentioned even by Giani Sant Singh Maskeen. You can watch his videos on youtube yourself.
Please don't blaspheme the holy Granth of us Sikhs by equating this rubbish low class characters with us Sikhs.
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On 3/3/2020 at 3:03 AM, HarjasDevi said:
Tell at least the WHOLE story, so people can understand the conflict, the agitators manipulating the conflict, and rise above it and move back towards actual brotherhood and goodwill.I am not a desperate propagandist like you. I just take quotes from the site and post it here according what I know is the truth. The fact that rape and murder apologists like you are on this site twisting and turning everything to fit your ugly hindutva ideology is proof that i am on the right path.
Go and preach to your fellow rapists and murderers about brotherhood and goodwill first then come lecture me.
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Let’s Call it By its Real Name – Ethnic Cleansing
The Hindutva project of finishing off the minorities has only just begun.
https://thewire.in/communalism/delhi-riots-hindutva-ethnic-cleansing
But it is important to look beyond just media reportage and consider what the violence in Delhi is all about. There have been such instances before, when armed men have set upon members of a minority community in an organised manner º 1984, 1992-93 and 2002 are seared into the minds of all Indians. In all the instances, even when there was retaliation – as was seen in 1992-93 in Bombay – in the end, it was the minority communities that suffered the most, in terms of lives lost, homes destroyed and businesses burnt down.
Lol,another website,another comparison with 1984,what a coincidence.
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“We will never come back here to live among Hindus,” Efaz told TIME on Saturday as he loaded a burlap sack into his small truck, preparing to travel back to his home village. “The divide between Hindus and Muslims is unbridgeable now.”
https://time.com/5794354/delhi-riots-muslims-india/
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-51719204
In 1984 these would have been Sikh women,hiding with their kids. Only degenerates and those sick in the mind can defend an atrocity against a minority such as this.
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Wow look at these brave hindu warriors. Durga, shiva, hanuman all must be so proud of their followers showing so much bravery
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On 3/3/2020 at 2:17 AM, HarjasDevi said:
Everything you have posted here, from the Topic Name: "hindu terrorists raping and murdering again as usual"
Is the MOST prejudicial, propagandistic, deliberately inflammatory, not bothering to fact-check and only posting the most ONE-SIDED version of the story... an you can't even get it right that the PROTESTS were about the CITIZENSHIP AMENDMENT BILL.... but drag 1984 into it, in effort to INFLAME PASSIONS AGAINST HINDU PEOPLE MANY OF WHOM WERE NOT EVEN BORN IN 1984... and AGAINST MODI government...for a PROTECTION BILL which INCLUDES PROTECTION OF SIKHS FROM EXTREMIST ISLAMIC COUNTRIES... and despite HYPOCRITICAL congressi Sikhs mad support for CONGRESS PARTY.... BJP WAS NEVER SUPPORTIVE OF Congress Government POGROM AGAINST SIKHS in revenge for putting down mad dog tyrant Indira, and nothing to do with IMMIGRATION BILL. All my points were about Citizenship Immigration Bill and protests and manipulators creating disturbances NOTHING was anti-Sikh or even anti-Muslim. YOUR points were only frothing at the mouth ANTI-HINDU propaganda distorting the issue, and the protests as something Sikh community should use as weapon to hold against Hindus. Think long and hard, because you do not seem to be thinking clearly.
I will name my thread whatever I want. I don't need your approval.It is a fact that hindus are raping and murdering,what else do you want me to name this thread as? As I again said,I did not say anything,I was just posting articles I found online and it was interesting that many compared these riots with the 1984 Anti Sikh Genocide by Hindu rapists and murderers.
Are Indian Muslims not citizens that they can't protest without being raped and murdered by Hindu mobs?And who the hell do these coward hindus think that they take things into their own hand?Why isn't anyone addressing this point?
Some hypocrites pretend to be for female empowerment and rights but at the same time when it comes to minority women,they actively side with rapists and murderers.
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How This Sikh Man Rescued Dozens Of Delhi Riot Victims On His Motorbike
https://www.huffingtonpost.in/entry/delhi-riots-sikh-hero_in_5e58d37cc5b6beedb4e96580
“I did not see Hindu or Muslim,” said Singh, who runs an electronics store and is a father to two children.
The “sardars” are now famous among the Muslims of Kardampuri, where HuffPost India heard about them.
“I have lived through the hell that was 1984,” Singh said. “Those memories have been revived.”
You may have heard the expression: nanak naam chardi kala, tere bahne sarbat da bhala. Sarbat da bhala means that we want everyone to prosper. We did this to honour humanity and our 10 gurus whose central message is that we should act for everyone to prosper.”
Thank Waheguru Gursikhs like this still exist who are still keeping up the true spirit of Sikhi.
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“Repeat of 1984”
“This is just a repeat of 1984,” said a female resident of Khazoori Khas, which till the night of Feb. 26 was lined with vehicles torched during the widespread arson. “I don’t need any food,” she said, anger lacing her voice. “All our shops have been torched, who will bear the cost of that?”
The “1984” motif was repeated by others, too.
“What is happening to Muslims today happened to Sikhs in 1984,” said Minna Singh, a relief volunteer feeding the famished multitudes of the locality. “I lost four brothers back then,” Singh, dressed in a fawn kurta, bright blue turban, and a kirpan (a traditional sword) slung across his chest, said softly.
The reference is to the pogrom against the Sikhs in northern India, especially in Delhi, in response to the assassination of then prime minister Indira Gandhi by her Sikh bodyguards. That burst of violence had left over 3,000 Sikhs dead in the capital alone, besides the thousands more killed in 40 cities across the country. The number of those injured and raped was equally gruesome.
“There’s only so much we can do…We don’t care if they are Hindu or Muslim. We Sikhs have been taught that our duty is to help those who are being oppressed, so we’re here just to serve,” 26-year-old Raj Singh said, pouring dal on to plates.
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The violence in Delhi is not a ‘riot’. It is targeted anti-Muslim brutality
The violence began after a local BJP politician, Kapil Mishra, told a rally last Sunday that unless police cleared the streets of protesters against the Citizenship Amendment Act (CAA), he and his supporters would do it themselves.
Why "Namdhari" is Not Sikhs?
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https://indianexpress.com/article/explained/namdhari-sikhs-chand-kaur-murder-a-wealthy-sect-an-old-family-feud-and-the-murder-of-a-matriarch/
Chand Kaur murder: A wealthy sect, an old family feud and the murder of a matriarch
What is the feud that is tearing the first family of the Namdharis apart? Is the killing linked to the vast properties the sect owns, an attempt by a “third party” to ensure the family stays divided?
How much wealth is at stake in this feud?
Uday Singh controls over 6,000 acres of prime land, including the Bhaini Sahib headquarters, which also houses two palatial bungalows. He is the chairman of Namdhari Seeds, a multinational company with a turnover of over Rs 800 crore. He owns a bungalow in Bengaluru. A state of the art Satguru Partap Singh (SPS) Hospital runs in Ludhiana on charitable land of Namdharis. Another 400 acres of dera land in Mastangarh of Haryana is under Uday Singh. Dalip Singh, on the other hand, is in possession of 120 acres of land at Jeewan Nagar in Haryana, the ancestral property of his father Bir Singh, where he runs a dera, besides a bungalow in Bengaluru.
^^^^ looks like being a loyal dog of the tyrannical indian state pays well.