Balbir Singh

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Dear all and Cybersingh Jee!

You asked "So then what is the true way to reach enlightnement and receive spiritual wisdom?"

It is surely not reading a post.

Quote "And what did the true Gurus practise?"

True Naam Simran.

Quote "What is true Simran?"

Please come to know it. It is not received by talking or reading about it.

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Amritkhalsa Jee!

Thanks for referring the true Vaaks from Guru Arjan Dev Jee.

All the referred Vaaks are describing the results of Simran but one Vaak is suggesting where to get it.

Strange, in Gurdwaaraas all come to wash their sins (paap) and schemingly receive the title 'Saadh'.

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Amritkhalsa Jee!

Thanks for many links to listen, the importance and Kathaa on Vaheguru.

The reverend Gurus never suggested Simran of the word Vaheguru. Is it not strange? Story tellers waste hours referring other books that also sitting beside their Guru Sri Guru Granth Saahib Jee.

Balbir Singh

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Dear all and Cybersingh Jee!

In my view, many repeat the word 'Waahay Guru' to reach enlightenment and receive spiritual wisdom. The true Gurus never suggested this practice though.

This may not happen in the future also as the wisdom of true Gur is that Gurdev recites.

The person whose mind is used with the crowd of thoughts seeks shelter in the crowd Sangat.

True Simran leads one toward Banwaaree. The need to run to a forest (Ban) vanishes.

Balbir Singh

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Dear all and Singh2 Jee!

My questions are simple and straight. Please do not escape those.

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To experience God, study of a Sikh human-being is not necessary.

To experience God, study of a Hindu human-being is also not needed.

The information of a Hindu person about Durgaa is not a requirement to receive the wisdom of Durgaa, Bhagautee or Chandee. Without receiving true Naam one is never blessed with this Wisdom. It is also not received by reading a book or discussing these words.

Persons whose Dharmaa is arguing never come to know their color.

Please listen. Guru Arjan Dev Jee is singing.

ਭਗਉਤੀ ਭਗਵੰਤ ਭਗਤਿ ਕਾ ਰੰਗੁ ॥

भगउती भगवंत भगति का रंगु ॥

Bhaguṯee bhagvant bhagati ka rangu. SGGS Ang. 274 Sukhmanee

Bhagautee is God's color of bhaktee.

In my experience it is perfectly all right when the true Bhagat is firstly dyed in God's color and then finds that all true Gurus confirm the same.

Pratham Bhagautee simar ke . . .

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Please ask your Baabaas and Preachers. Seekers are hungry and thirsty. Can they transfer this wisdom? Or they feel this wisdom is transferred through the microphone only.

Only making Jathaas of dumb dummies or afgaanee ghuggies is not helping.

Balbir Singh

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Dear all and Singh2 Jee!

You wrote "The poster is trying to interpret the heading " Ath devi ji ki ustat" as ode to Durga.

That is incorrect and misleading. There are many otehr headings like this in Dasam Granth.

When you read those carefully it is ode to akal purakh and not to Durga."

Guru Gobind Singh Jee has used both the words, Durgaa and Akaal, often. Please explain why He wrote Durgaa where you wish He could have written Akaal Purakh?

Quote "Guru Gobind singh ji has described chandi as Kirpan in chandi di vaar."

KripaaNee does not mean a sword nor Miaan means scabbard in the true Guru's Vaak. You have referred.

ਧੂਹਿ ਲਈ ਕ੍ਰਿਪਾਣੀ ਦੁਰਗਾ ਮਿਆਨ ਤੇ ॥

धूहि लई क्रिपाणी दुरगा मिआन ते ॥

Has drawn the merciful Durgaa to the middle.

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Thanks for referring Gurdev's Vaak from Bachitra NaaTak.

ਬ੍ਰਹਮਾ ਆਪ ਪਾਰਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਬਖਾਨਾ ॥ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਕੋ ਪ੍ਰਭੂ ਨ ਕਿਨਹੂੰ ਜਾਨਾ ॥੮॥

ब्रहमा आप पारब्रहम बखाना ॥ प्रभ को प्रभू न किनहूं जाना ॥८॥

Brahma called himself Para Brahman, none could comprehend the Lord.8.

Please clarify it. Has Guru Gobind Singh Jee included Himself in this list or not?

Balbir Singh

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Dear all!

Is the aslee Sikh of the true Gur female?

Please ponder. Guru Naanak Dev Jee is singing in ecstasy.

ਮਤਿ ਵਿਚਿ ਰਤਨ ਜਵਾਹਰ ਮਾਣਿਕ ਜੇ ਇਕ ਗੁਰ ਕੀ ਸਿਖ ਸੁਣੀ ॥

मति विचि रतन जवाहर माणिक जे इक गुर की सिख सुणी ॥

Mati vichi ratan javaahar maaṇik je ik gur kee sikh suṇee. SGGS Ang. 2

Balbir Singh

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Dear all and Singh2 Jee!

Thanks for referring 'Durgaa Saptshatee' and its contents translated in English.

God is also before any thing happens. He wishes and the first activity comes into existence (Bhavaanee), the chain reaction starts. Everything in Cosmos remains for a time period to execute HIS Order with love (Bhava-Preetaa) then everything changes its form (Bhav-Mochinee).

In Sansaara there are enough translators. The world is existing and evolving with their ignorance.

God wants a Jeev to remain in the world. He gives him ignorance.

Strange, sick Preachers could not translate one Vaak of the true Gurus correctly but proudly they claim to be the experts of Scriptures in other languages.

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In Durgaa Saptshatee also, I have not come across a sentence or word that states 'the Hindu Goddess is the supreme Godhead'.

Balbir Singh

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Dear all and Singh2 Jee!

Thanks for your efforts.

Wikipedia is a man made platform for information and views. It is ready to change anytime also in the future.

I have never come across a scripture that states 'the Hindu Goddess is the supreme Godhead'.

Surprise, they want to inform about Shaktee but are providing photos of people doing rituals.

People know and follow rituals imagining they are following a religion.

Sikh preachers are working hard for Sikhs to keep them on their tracks. They should not trust the Hindu Bhagautee, ChanDee or Durgaa.

I have a request to the Sikh Preachers. Can anyone of them please introduce seekers with the Sikh Bhagautee, ChanDee, Durgaa, Shaktee, Siva, Hari, NaaraayaN or Raam? The true Gurus have often used these words.

Sometimes people answer 'God knows' when they do not know. Sikh preachers often answer 'this means Waahiguru' when they do not know the wisdom of that word.

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God and only His activities exist in a dual world. We all are His Activities and feel separated from HIM. Khandaa is established.

Were you ever interested in knowing His Activities that dissolve the Khandaa and all become 'Sam' or One again?

Let it happen or you still want to collect information about it.

Balbir Singh

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Dear all and Laalsingh Jee!

ਬੁਧਿ ਹੈ ਤਾ ਬਹੁਤ ਸਿਆਣੀ ਪਰ ਕਰਦੀ ਆਪਣੇ ਮਨ ਦੀ |

ਸਚਾ ਗੁਰ ਮਿਲੇ ਤਾ ਗੁਰਮਤਿ ਦੀ ਪ੍ਰਾਪਤੀ ਕਰਦੀ ਹੈ|

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Dear Cybersingh Jee!

Thanks for referring the Vaak from panna 1402 of Sri Guru Granth Saahib Jee. Is Bhagat Gayand Jee saying here that repeating the word 'Waahay Guru', one can reach enlightenment and receive spiritual wisdom?

Balbir Singh

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Dear all and Chatanga1 Jee!

You wrote "This is where we differ from the HIndus in our view of Chandi, to them it is the tiger riding devi, to Sikhs it is the sword."

Is it important to be a Sikh or Hindu imitator to receive the wisdom of ChanDee?

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Singh2 Jee wrote "In Hinduism , Worshippers of devi durga consider her as absolute supreme power. There is no God above her.She is all in all."

Please provide a reference. I will be thankful.

Balbir Singh

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Dear all and Jvalasingh Jee!

You wrote "Yet no one is willing to listen to the katha by Giani Inderjit Singh Ji about the whole CONCEPT of devi in Sikhi."

I heard this kathaa. Giani Ji in the beginning explains that Bhagautee's roop is kirpaan. Without roop Bhagautee is Shaktee.

Quote "Thanks Sikhawareness for possessing an open mind and having a knee-jerk reaction due to the picture."

I have a curiosity to know. Why the painter did not paint a kirpaan (sword) to represent Bhagautee in the picture?

Balbir Singh

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Dear all and Cybersingh Jee!

You wrote "If Gurdev says that repeating the word 'Vahiguri' in 1430 angs, one can reach enlightenment and receive spiritual wisdom, is Gurdev then a Sick Preacher?"

Please provide the reference from Sri Guru Granth Saahib Jee. I will be grateful.

I every time ask my mind to answer. Why do you want to follow somebody else and not the true Guru?

Balbir Singh

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Dear all!

Please listen. Gurdev is singing.

ਗੁਰ ਮਿਲਿ ਚਜੁ ਅਚਾਰੁ ਸਿਖੁ ਤੁਧੁ ਕਦੇ ਨ ਲਗੈ ਦੁਖੁ ॥੩॥

गुर मिलि चजु अचारु सिखु तुधु कदे न लगै दुखु ॥३॥

Gur mili chaju achaaru sikhu tudhu kade na lagai dukhu. ||3|| SGGS Ang. 50

By receiving Gur is the expertise, the conduct, the learning. To you never touches the suffering.

My curiosity is to know. Is the aslee Sikh (learning) received by me?

Balbir Singh

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Dear all!

Please listen. Gurdev is singing.

ਸੰਕਰਿ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੈ ਦੇਵੀ ਜਪਿਓ ਮੁਖਿ ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਜਪਿਆ ॥

संकरि ब्रहमै देवी जपिओ मुखि हरि हरि नामु जपिआ ॥

Sankari barahmai ḏevee japio mukhi hari hari naamu japiaa.

ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮਿ ਜਿਨਾ ਮਨੁ ਭੀਨਾ ਤੇ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਪਾਰਿ ਪਇਆ ॥੨॥

हरि हरि नामि जिना मनु भीना ते गुरमुखि पारि पइआ ॥२॥

Hari hari naami jinaa manu bẖeeaa te gurmukhi paari paiaa. ||2|| SGGS Ang. 995

I have a curiosity to know. Is Devee Japping allowed for Sikhs?

Balbir Singh

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Dear all and Laalsingh Jee!

Please listen. Gurdev is singing.

ਬਿਨੁ ਹਰਿ ਸਿਮਰਨ ਸੁਖੁ ਨਹੀ ਪਾਇਆ ॥

बिनु हरि सिमरन सुखु नही पाइआ ॥

Binu hari simran sukhu nahi paaiaa.

ਆਨ ਰੰਗ ਫੀਕੇ ਸਭ ਮਾਇਆ ॥੩॥

आन रंग फीके सभ माइआ ॥३॥

aann rang pheeke sabh maaiaa. ||3|| SGGS Ang 194

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Experience of Colors as the result of true Naam Simran is different from that of garments.

Also, Gurdev sings Banwaaree experiencing Banwaaree and not anybody else.

Balbir Singh

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Dear all and Cybersingh Jee!

Thanks for the link.

In my view, Sikh Scriptures are the writings of the true Gurus.

Sikh Scriptures are not the writings from anybody else than the true Gurus.

Sri Naanak Prakaash Granth is also not my Guru.

I pray true Naam Simran for all. Receiving and growing with that each Vaak from Sri Guru Granth Saahib Jee becomes own experience.

And the need to read more borrowed books vanishes.

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The main color of the forest is green because of the green leaves on trees. May I ask why Guru Naanak Dev Jee is confirming? Banwaaree's appearance is blue.

Please ponder. Gurdev is singing.

. . .neel roop banwaaree. SGGS Ang 1191

Balbir Singh

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Dear all!

True Guru's Sikh is the aslee Sikh.

Others are born as the naslee Sikh.

Today's Sikh is busy with problems.

Hope. He isn't a living maslee Sikh.

Firstly, please share your experience receiving true Guru's Sikh.

Balbir Singh

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Dear all and PAL 07 Jee!

You wrote "cyber singh moorakh naal na lujieh - dont argue with balbir singh as GuruJi clearly states dont argue with fools."

Please listen. Guru Naanak Dev Jee is singing.

ਮੰਦਾ ਕਿਸੈ ਨ ਆਖੀਐ ਪੜਿ ਅਖਰੁ ਏਹੋ ਬੁਝੀਐ ॥

मंदा किसै न आखीऐ पड़ि अखरु एहो बुझीऐ ॥

Manḏā kisai na ākẖī▫ai paṛ akẖar eho bujẖī▫ai.

ਮੂਰਖੈ ਨਾਲਿ ਨ ਲੁਝੀਐ ॥੧੯॥

मूरखै नालि न लुझीऐ ॥१९॥

Mūrkẖai nāl na lujẖī▫ai. ||19|| SGGS 473

Moving against the Guru and calling others bad, is this the Panth you are moving with?

O! Jooneeaa! What will happen with you now? You are preparing to enter next, which Joon?

Quote ". . . leave him alone and he will learn himself the hardway....kehat kabir tabhe nar jageh, jam ka dand moond me lageh."

Please ponder. Gurdev is confirming Kabeer Jee's Vaaks singing.

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਤਬ ਹੀ ਨਰੁ ਜਾਗੈ ॥

कहु कबीर तब ही नरु जागै ॥

Kaho Kabīr ṯab hī nar jāgai.

ਜਮ ਕਾ ਡੰਡੁ ਮੂੰਡ ਮਹਿ ਲਾਗੈ ॥੩॥੨॥

जम का डंडु मूंड महि लागै ॥३॥२॥

Jam kā dand mūnd mėh lāgai. ||3||2|| SGGS 870

Please explain this. How does it work?

God, the only Nar, awakens when Jam ka Dand hits moond.

Please say something about Banwaaree.

Balbir Singh

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Dear all and Cybersingh Jee!

You wrote ". . . There is only one True Guru (Vahiguru) . . ."

No one can praise the Guru without experiencing Him. All that one shine is the praise of the Guru after receiving the wisdom (Gur).

Strange. Sick preachers promise wisdom by repeating the word 'Vaihguru'.

Cybersingh "Banwaree is also referring to those who reside in jungles in search of God."

Balbir Singh "May I ask which True Guru suggested such explanation?"

Cybersingh "he does not suggest it but my own limited knowledge and perception...Maybe I wasn't able to clarify my stance but that is what I think."

Balbir Singh "Gurdev is singing. Banwaaree is in every form." Please listen.

ਘਟਿ ਘਟਿ ਰਵਿ ਰਹਿਆ ਬਨਵਾਰੀ ॥

घटि घटि रवि रहिआ बनवारी ॥

ghati ghati ravi rahiaa banwaaree. SGGS Ang 597

Quote "What is Brahmaand?"

Brahma plus its Aand (source) together is Brahmaand.

Please do not feel strange. I also heard just now this Aakaashvaanee.

Cybersingh "The true Khalsa spends time learning Shastar and Shaastar vidiya (art of warfare and learning texts)."

Balbir Singh "Please provide one suggestion from the reverend Gurus. I will be grateful."

Cybersingh "Please look at Bhai Gurdas Ji's Vaars, Bhai Desa Singh Rehatnama...."

Balbir Singh "My Gurus never mentioned these names and their writings."

Quote "Please read the ang in its entirety . . ."

I am listening. The word Banwaaree from Guru's mouth is wonderful.

But why do you want me to read the borrowed translation of it?

Balbir Singh

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Dear all and Cybersingh Jee!

You wrote "Balbir Singh Ji, as to your question . . . Banwaree is also referring to those who reside in jungles in search of God."

That is interesting. May I ask which True Guru suggested such explanation?

Quote "your human body is also a "city" in which God dwells."

My Gurdev describes it as Brahmaand that is within and outside.

Quote "If you want to experience the glory of God (Vahiguru) through his words (Shabad) then instead of asking qusetions to others, why not spend time in doing paath and vichaar of Gurbani by yourself and spend time in Naam Simran to truly experience the greatness of Akaal."

I found the word Banwaaree in Sri Guru Granth Saahib Jee meditating on Gurbaanee.

Quote "I don't mean to be rude and forgive me if i have offended anyone but I have seen in the past few years, all this cyber forums and questions and trying to be "cyber gianis" which does not contribute postively to anyone. Rather, it creates an environment of hate and anger to which Sikhi has always opposed."

In my observations, these are not only forums but also lectures of the sick preachers.

Quote "The true Khalsa spends time learning Shastar and Shaastar vidiya (art of warfare and learning texts)."

Please provide one suggestion from the reverend Gurus. I will be grateful.

Quote "Please, my benti to everyone is to spend more time in Baani and Naam to truly experience God."

Please ponder. Guru Arjan Dev Jee is singing.

ਗੁਰ ਕੈ ਬਚਨਿ ਰਿਦੈ ਧਿਆਨੁ ਧਾਰੀ ॥

गुर कै बचनि रिदै धिआनु धारी ॥

Gur kai bachani ridai dhiaan dhaaree.

ਰਸਨਾ ਜਾਪੁ ਜਪਉ ਬਨਵਾਰੀ ॥੧॥

रसना जापु जपउ बनवारी ॥१॥

Rasnaa jaap japao banvaaree. ||1|| SGGS Ang 740

Balbir Singh

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Dear all and PAL 07 Jee!

Please do not complain. Gurdev words are wonderful and to experience it.

Ponder why sick preachers are growing in number but true Sikhs vanishing.

Strange. Mahaan Kosh suggests seeing Banmaalee to understand Banwaaree.

Balbir Singh

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Dear all and PAL 07 Jee!

You wrote "yes balbir singh God does exist in the cities aswell . . ."

Thanks. Now I understand why Gurdev is singing

ਕਾਹੇ ਰੇ ਬਨ ਖੋਜਨ ਜਾਈ ॥

काहे रे बन खोजन जाई ॥

Kāhe re ban kẖojan jā▫ī.

Why do you go looking for Him in the forest? SGGS Ang 684

Seekers can find Him in the cities as well.

Quote ". . . he also lives in the city within you."

Since when human beings have provided Him a city within to live?

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Many preachers are experts on God. But the topic here is Banwaaree.

Balbir Singh

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Dear all and Laal Singh Jee!

You wrote "Banwaree means 'living in jungles'."

How can one find Him living in a city?

Quote "It is another name for Krishna as he was resident of Brinda Ban."

Is He still a resident of Brinda Ban and lives there permanently?

Balbir Singh

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Dear all and PAL 07 Jee!

Thanks for your answer. Banwaaree "Refers to God as residing 'in the jungles'."

May I ask? Is Banwaaree not available in the cities?

Balbir Singh

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Dear all!

Can somebody please explain it? Who is Banwaaree ਬਨਵਾਰੀ ?

The word Banwaaree ਬਨਵਾਰੀ occurs many times in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee.

Balbir Singh

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Dear all and vjs2445 Jee!

Dear Balbir Singh Jee:

You can keep the books but only in the library but Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee can be the only and Only and Only Pathshah in the Darbar Sahib........

You seem to be sure you are not a fanatic.

Thats good hukam by Bhagat Kabir Jeeooo but you should also mention that next one in the same shabad that Sikh has renounced all the stuff written by Pandit(Kavi Shyam, Ram, Kal of so called Bachitar Natak, as well as all the Simrities, Shastras, Vedas etc....) as well as of Mullahs.

You desire it and I should renounce all the stuff imagined by you.

but just as per Satgur's Gurmat spreading the word of Guru Sahib jee and Only Guru Granth Sahib jee which is full of ratan bhandar and no other Granth can be Sikh's Guru as well as Parkashed Parallel to Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee.......i:e

You are so smart. Still, others are doing so many mistakes. Why?

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I asked. What is Satigur? I did not ask whose name is Satigur.

You copied and pasted Guru's Vaak.

ਸਲੋਕੁ ॥

ਸਤਿ ਪੁਰਖੁ ਜਿਨਿ ਜਾਨਿਆ ਸਤਿਗੁਰੁ ਤਿਸ ਕਾ ਨਾਉ ॥

ਤਿਸ ਕੈ ਸੰਗਿ ਸਿਖੁ ਉਧਰੈ ਨਾਨਕ ਹਰਿ ਗੁਨ ਗਾਉ ॥੧॥

May I ask? The Satiguru is the name of the Sati Purakh or one who comes to know?

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For us (Sikhs)...its the Jyot of Sri Guru Nanak Sahib Jee in Dhan Dhan Shri Guru Granth Sahib Jee Maharaj.......

In my view. Sri Guru Granth Saahib Jee is message and Jot of God. Guru Naanak Dev Jee is not only Deevaa of it.

Preacher mind! Please leave casteism with God's Message.

Same concept as per by Guru Gobind Singh Jee Maharaj........"Sab Sikhan Ko Hukam Hai......Guru Manyo Granth".

I hope you have found the original Granth where Guru Gobind Singh Jee has written this Message.

Bhul Chuk Muaaf Kardena......

Why are you feeling guilty?

Nanak Naam Chardi Kala

Tere Bhane Sarbat Daa Bhala.........

Surprise! A film song is placed beside Guru's Vaak in your post.

Balbir Singh