SunnySingh

On 10/3/2020 at 4:18 PM, Sikhilove said:

 

ਸਾਧ ਮੂਰਤਿ ਗੁਰੁ ਭੇਟਿਓ ਨਾਨਕ ਮਿਲਿ ਸਾਗਰ ਬੂੰਦ ਨਹੀ ਅਨ ਹੇਰਾ ॥੨॥੧॥੧੧੭॥  साध मूरति गुरु भेटिओ नानक मिलि सागर बूंद नही अन हेरा ॥२॥१॥११७॥  Sāḏẖ mūraṯ gur bẖetio Nānak mil sāgar būnḏ nahī an herā. ||2||1||117||  I have met with Guru Nanak, the Embodiment of the Holy Saints. When the drop of water merges into the ocean, it cannot be distinguished as separate again. ||2||1||117||

ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ ਮਹਲਾ ੫ ॥

This is awesome.

On 10/5/2020 at 11:06 AM, Sikhilove said:

I believe gurbani. The khel is beyond logic. Everything is Karam and everything is a khel, derived from Nothing. If one goes to hell, it’s Karam. But in reality hell is an illusion as is the khel. It’s beyond logic. We cannot comprehend it, using worldly logic... it can only be experienced and felt. And the path of Truth discovery never ends.  
 

Try reading and applying the gyan of gurbani to your life (Truthful living) and taking to long simran sessions from 12pm onwards. Go deep into your samadhi and discover it. 

Well Sikhilove Ji,

there are many things which you say with which I do not agree, but yet are respectful, as not all of us are at the same consciouss level, so no need to further arguments which leads nowhere but to bitterness, inspite of that,  I would just like to bring forward a couple of simple, clarifying and inspiring verses from Guru Jee in reference to what we are talking about: 

ਦੁਨੀਆ ਸਾਗਰੁ ਦੁਤਰੁ ਕਹੀਐ ਕਿਉ ਕਰਿ ਪਾਈਐ ਪਾਰੋ ॥

Dhuneeaa Saagar Dhuthar Keheeai Kio Kar Paaeeai Paaro ||

दुनीआ सागरु दुतरु कहीऐ किउ करि पाईऐ पारो ॥

"The world-ocean is treacherous and impassable; how can one cross over?

*Note: Here Guru Jee is telling us that, inspite of any maya - khel, the fact is we are caught into it.  The several gross and subtle dimensions maybe illusionary and false or perishable in a certain time period, but the jeevas, the atmas, caught into its snares for whatever reasons, are real as He Himself, as they are rays of that imperishable and eternal Truth known as Satnam.

ਸੁਰਤਿ ਸਬਦਿ ਭਵ ਸਾਗਰੁ ਤਰੀਐ ਨਾਨਕ ਨਾਮੁ ਵਖਾਣੇ ॥

Surath Sabadh Bhav Saagar Thareeai Naanak Naam Vakhaanae ||

सुरति सबदि भव सागरु तरीऐ नानक नामु वखाणे ॥

With one's consciousness focused on the Word of the Shabad, one crosses over the terrifying world-ocean. O Nanak, chant the Naam, the Name of the Lord.

*Note: In this verse, Guru Sahiban is revealing us, the simplest way to get out of that khel, which otherwise would be as good as impossible, so out of His infinite mercy and love for us jeevas, He is saying that if you want to release yourself from this my created khel, you have to catch on something which is the only changeless and flawless Truth, and that is His Nam.

18 hours ago, Sikhilove said:

Every single being in the Universe is in search of Truth/Him. Many in ego refuse to recognize Him, without realizing that they wake up to the Sun that is Him, sleep in His moonlight, eat the food that is Him, sleep in the bed that is Him, speak to friends who are Him, and dress themselves in clothes and deem themselves to be beautiful, when All is Him. We are One, whether we are in the darkness of ignorance or not. 

Sikihilove Ji,

I think you are mixing the Creator (True and eternal) with His creation which is transitory and perishable.

All dukh sukh, janam-maraan, rich poor, health sickness, light and darkness......etc,  are due to some cause for which they exist and do end at some point,  and  this is all a khel of duality or call it pair of opposites which are projected by Him, yet,  while He having created all that, He is above all that paraphernalia, for He alone can and does exist by Himself.

He is Saebhaang, self supporrtive as stated in the mool mantar.

It is ignorance and incorrect to mistake Him with His creation.

For as the bani says:

ਨਾਮ ਬਿਨਾ ਸਭ ਦੁਨੀਆ ਛਾਰੁ ॥੧॥

Naam Binaa Sabh Dhuneeaa Shhaar ||1||

Without the Naam, the Name of the Lord, the whole world is just ashes.

So you see, one thing is the the Truth, Lord Waheguru, other thing is everything else, which is not Him, but just ashes, which are not Him

Please support your statements with direct quotations from Gurbani, otherwise it is just your imagination.

We should give our opinions freely here and wherever needed, but when it is reffered to Him, Gurbani should be our support, otherwise we can lead others to our lower mind which is quite bad.

23 hours ago, Sikhilove said:

To be a bhagat, you need to recognize the dark and light as God. Love is the reality, and it’s the good and the bad, the Dukh and the Sukh. The reality isn’t all just beauty and sunshine. It’s both the dark and the light for All is Him. 

Sikhilove jee, 

your above description of  Him, sorry to say, but it is far from reality, for to say that light and dark, or, dukh and sukh, are all Him, is incorrect, for these are pair of opposites, which is known as duality.

Sun can only give light not darkness. He also can only give light and sukh among other virtues, as He is the embodiment of infinite virtues.

It is we who may turn our back towards Him, thus have darkness and pain as our invitees due to our own manmukhta and agyanta, but absolutely not because of Him, for He is Har, the daatar of sarab sukh, countless millions of suns and moons put all together, would be but a pale and dim light in His comparison.

Maybe if you say, that in darkness and in pain, He can be with us, if we choose so, then it can be acceptable.

So let us stop making Him look as per our fancy distorted limited view.