SunnySingh

On 5/27/2022 at 10:07 PM, Guest Guest said:

Q1)Why religions talk about mukti?

Q2)Are they anti-Life? 

A1) Why should they not talk?

What is the harm in it?

They should talk about mukti.

If a religion does not talk about mukti, then, that religion is not a religion but more likely a cult. The term religion comes from the latin word "religare", which means that what reunites us with our origin. 

And if you do not want to listen about mukti, then do not listen nor look to their teachings, just keep yourself busy  with other things.

The purpose of a true religion is to bring that awareness in us, that, we are in alien land, which is inert, temporary, and subject dissolution.

Or do you think you are going to live here for ever?

Because such a couple of questions like yours above, makes one think in that direction

If you think so, then sorry to say that, maybe you are voluntarily choosing to indefinetely extend your stay more in the wheel of the otherwise unendable cycle of births and deaths.

The Bani clearly tells us:  KIS NAAL KEEJAY DOSTEE SABH JAG CHALANHAAR.

Prophets, Bhagats, Incarnations, Guru Sahiban, all highly spiritual beings, whenever they came here on earth, had to go back also and respect the laws of Nature without any manipulations. 

Ravan, and other devlish beings throughout the history, they tried to manipulate Nature and secure eternal life on this inert, false,  and temporary creation. 

What was the result in all those cases? All of them were fierecely blown to death by Nature.

A2) No, they are not antilife.

Because they do not induce anybody to not live their lives with dignity, nor do they tell anybody to suicide, rather they are (if only true religion) the cause of our freedom from falsehood (koor maya), and thus life givers of eternity, because they teach us to take the Amrit of Nam within us, in order to become one with our origin, namely Waheguru Akal Purukh who is the Only eternal Truth, and the fountain of bliss and true happiness.

I will not talk of other religions, about what they have to offer or not to the soul ...

But I will only talk from the perspective of Sikhee, which I find the most rational, and universal teachings.

Not limited to any  particular land, country, continent, race or gender... rather it is a universal and a practical path of utmost love and devotion for our creator Waheguru Akal Purukh.

Please, do go a bit through the Bani, in any Ang, where only what you will find is that, Guru Sahiban tell us, that, do not remain in the false illusion, created by your limited mind, which is the cause of all your pain and anguish, rather come out of that realm of falsehood which is subject to decay and dissolution, and by strongly holding on Naam alone, step into the realm of Truth and eternity, which is Sach Khand, the realm of SAT NAM, AKAL PURUKH.

God bless you.

ਨਾਨਕ ਲਿਲਾਰਿ ਲਿਖਿਆ ਸੋਇ ॥

Naanak Lilaar Likhiaa Soe ||

नानक लिलारि लिखिआ सोइ ॥

O Nanak, that destiny which is pre-ordained and written on one's forehead

ਮੇਟਿ ਨ ਸਾਕੈ ਕੋਇ ॥

Maett N Saakai Koe ||

मेटि न साकै कोइ ॥

No one can erase it.

Raag Maajh  Sree Guru Nanak Dev Maharaj.

ਪੂਰੇ ਗੁਰ ਕੀ ਕਾਰ ਕਰਮਿ ਕਮਾਈਐ ॥

Poorae Gur Kee Kaar Karam Kamaaeeai ||

पूरे गुर की कार करमि कमाईऐ ॥

By the karma of good actions, some come to serve the Perfect Guru.

ਗੁਰਮਤੀ ਆਪੁ ਗਵਾਇ ਨਾਮੁ ਧਿਆਈਐ ॥

Guramathee Aap Gavaae Naam Dhhiaaeeai ||

गुरमती आपु गवाइ नामु धिआईऐ ॥

Through the Guru's Teachings, some eliminate selfishness and conceit, and meditate on the Naam, the Name of the Lord.

ਦੂਜੀ ਕਾਰੈ ਲਗਿ ਜਨਮੁ ਗਵਾਈਐ ॥

Dhoojee Kaarai Lag Janam Gavaaeeai ||

दूजी कारै लगि जनमु गवाईऐ ॥

Undertaking any other task, they waste their lives in vain.

ਵਿਣੁ ਨਾਵੈ ਸਭ ਵਿਸੁ ਪੈਝੈ ਖਾਈਐ ॥

Vin Naavai Sabh Vis Paijhai Khaaeeai ||

विणु नावै सभ विसु पैझै खाईऐ ॥

Without the Name, all that they wear and eat is poison.

ਸਚਾ ਸਬਦੁ ਸਾਲਾਹਿ ਸਚਿ ਸਮਾਈਐ ॥

Sachaa Sabadh Saalaahi Sach Samaaeeai ||

सचा सबदु सालाहि सचि समाईऐ ॥

Praising the True Word of the Shabad, they merge with the True Lord.

ਮਾਝ ਵਾਰ (ਮਃ ੧) (੧੪):੫ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੪੪ ਪੰ. ੧੭
Raag Maajh Guru Nanak Dev

ਵਿਣੁ ਸਤਿਗੁਰੁ ਸੇਵੇ ਨਾਹੀ ਸੁਖਿ ਨਿਵਾਸੁ ਫਿਰਿ ਫਿਰਿ ਆਈਐ ॥

Vin Sathigur Saevae Naahee Sukh Nivaas Fir Fir Aaeeai ||

विणु सतिगुरु सेवे नाही सुखि निवासु फिरि फिरि आईऐ ॥

Without serving the True Guru, they do not obtain the home of peace; they are consigned to reincarnation, over and over again.

Raag Maajh  Sree Guru Nanak Dev Maharaj

On 4/14/2009 at 6:17 PM, Vah said:

Just a few questions, you said

Q1)Why is it a must to have a Guru?

Q2)Can you not do bhagti without following a religion?

 

A1) It is utmost important to have a Guru, for  True Guru is not the body,  but the Jot of Waheguru Himself, and this Guru is known as Shabad Guru. 

When you close your eyes, do you not see darkness? Then in such darkness how can one even move an inch forward within?

There is where the Guru is needed, for with His akhoot Jot, He gives the Light and brings clarity to the soul, in its all way back till the soul reaches in the lap of our heavenly Father  Akal Purukh.

A2) The question does not arise of following or not a religion, the question is about following that what is correct and acceptable in His eyes, not manmat of people. 

Again, it is here that the valuable role of a true Guru is seen, for it is only the Guru as seen in Gurbani who reconects us with our origin Waheguru Akal Purukh, through Nam.

And the proof of what I am saying is seen the following 2 verses 

ਗੁਰਮਤੀ ਆਪੁ ਗਵਾਇ ਸਚੁ ਪਛਾਣਿਆ ॥

Guramathee Aap Gavaae Sach Pashhaaniaa ||

Through the Guru's Teachings, selfishness and conceit are eradicated, and the Truth is realized.

ਸਚਾ ਸਬਦੁ ਵੀਚਾਰਿ ਸਚਿ ਸਮਾਣਿਆ ॥

Sachaa Sabadh Veechaar Sach Samaaniaa ||

Meditating deeply on the True Word of the Shabad, I have merged into the Truth.

By the way Vah Jee, can you tell me where and in which other dharmas, Guru Jee, and Nam Bhakti is advised, in order to cut our bonds from this mayavee creation and merge in Him for once and ever.

That is why  Guru and Guru bhakti(Gurmat) is required for any soul who really wants to go back to Him.

One may do bhakti all the 24/7, but as per Bani, if one has not meditated on Nam, one has done nothing, and shall go empty handed from this world, for Nam is the only eternal Truth.

The beauty of Gurmat is that, it reveals us the highest spiritual truths, in simple and practical ways for any ordinary being, for the sole purpose of achieveing the Highest soul consciousness abode, named Sach Khand.

ਸਚਾ ਸਬਦੁ ਵੀਚਾਰਿ ਸਚਿ ਸਮਾਣਿਆ ॥

Sachaa Sabadh Veechaar Sach Samaaniaa ||

By meditating deeply on the True Word of the Shabad, I have merged into the Truth.

*Here in this verse above, Guru Jee is beautifully  revealing us in clear, simple, and short words, the secret of our union with Him in this vey life by His grace.

Dhan Dhan Guru Nanak.

ਸਤਿਗੁਰਿ ਤੁਠੈ ਪਾਈਅਨਿ ਅੰਦਰਿ ਰਤਨ ਭੰਡਾਰਾ ॥

Sathigur Thuthai Paaeean Andhar Rathan Bhanddaaraa ||

When the True Guru is pleased, we find the treasure of the jewel, deep within the self.

Sree Guru Nanak Dev 

ਵਿਣੁ ਗੁਰ ਕਿਨੈ ਨ ਲਧਿਆ ਅੰਧੇ ਭਉਕਿ ਮੁਏ ਕੂੜਿਆਰਾ ॥

Vin Gur Kinai N Ladhhiaa Andhhae Bhouk Mueae Koorriaaraa ||

Without the Guru, no one has found this treasure. The blind and the false have died in their endless wanderings

Sree Guru Nanak Dev 

ਵਿਣੁ ਨਾਵੈ ਹੋਰੁ ਧਨੁ ਨਾਹੀ ਹੋਰੁ ਬਿਖਿਆ ਸਭੁ ਛਾਰਾ ॥

Vin Naavai Hor Dhhan Naahee Hor Bikhiaa Sabh Shhaaraa ||

Without God's Name, there is no other wealth. Everything else is just poison and ashes.

Sree Guru Nanak Dev 

ਨਾਨਕ ਸਾਚਾ ਮਨਿ ਵਸੈ ਸਾਚ ਸਬਦਿ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮਿ ਸਮਾਵੈ ॥੨॥

Naanak Saachaa Man Vasai Saach Sabadh Har Naam Samaavai ||2||

O Nanak, when one is absorbed in the Name of the Lord, then the True One shall come to dwell in your mind.

Sree Guru Ram Das

3 hours ago, sarabatam said:

 IKongkar- THERE IS ONLY GOD- 

Totally agree.

The prefix syllable Ik, in both the terms refers to the only One, and the only One, true Lord God Creator is Waheguru Akal Purukh.

Following is an clarifying and inspiring article by Sukhmandir Kaur, which I found on the net and would like to share with the Sangat.

Ik Onkar is a symbol which appears at the beginning the Sikh scripture and means, "One With Everything". The symbol is written in the Gurmukhi script and has several components. Some references are also spelled out in scripture as to Ek Ankar.

• Ik (or Ek) stands for the Gurmukhi numeral "One".
• On is a combination or O and An stands for "Everything".
• Kar is inferred and stands for "Creator".

Pronunciation: Ik (i as in lick) (alternately Ek, or aek sounding like the a in lake) O un kaar (aa sounds like the a in car)

• "Sabh meh jaano karataa ek ||In all do I recognize that the One Creator is present." SGGS||377
• "Safal janam hoaa mil saadhoo ekankaar dhiaaae raam ||Fruitful becomes the life upon meeting with the Saints, and contemplating the One Creator Lord." SGGS||782
• "Tiseh bhoojh jin too keeaa prabh karann kaaran ek||1|| rahaao||Realize thou that He who created thee is the One God whom is the cause of all causes." Pause. SGGS||1007
• "Eko karataa avar na koe ||There is only One, the Creator, there is no other at all." SGGS||1174
• "Khaalik khalak khalak meh khaalik poor rehiou srab taanee ||1|| rehaao||
  The Creation is in the Creator, and the Creator is in the Creation, totally pervading and permeating all places. ||1||Pause|| SGGS||1349

Some of our most  mouthwatering delicious dishes

ਸਾਡੇ ਸਭ ਤੋਂ ਸੁਆਦੀ ਪਕਵਾਨਾਂ ਵਿੱਚੋਂ ਕੁਝ

All practices, that aim in one way or the other, at changing the state of consciousness of one’s being, must eventually be left behind for the natural state of awareness to be recognized.

Contrary to popular belief, enlightenment is not an altered state of consciousness. It is the natural state.

But since most people that start the spiritual journey are still in ego consciousness, they naturally feel that enlightenment must be a continuous state of bliss in consciousness. That is natural, I had the same thinking at first.

That includes the awakening of chakras. It can and must be used along the journey.

But at some point when you arrive in your natural state, these practices will create dreaming instead of helping you become dream-less.

That is because consciousness itself is changing, you cannot except it to be manipulated through an experience. Even the most beautiful God experiences! :)

Instead, find in yourself that which is unchanging.

On 10/19/2015 at 7:43 PM, das said:

Could anyone please share their thoughts on why Sikh Gurus did NOT write the katha/vikhaya of Guru Granth Sahib Ji? It would have saved the panth ALL the debates revolving around the meanings of Guru Sahib? After-all Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is the teasure and what's the use of treasure without the key (meanings)?

 

Perhaps Bro, because  Sree Guru Granth Sahib by itself is the katha /vikhaya of Waheguru Akal Purukh Himself, which is the most beautiful and complete act by itself..

And, who says, the treasure in IT has no meanings?

Everything is there in SGGS, it is only that we do not pay attention to what is said. 

It is like we are more busy in looking a prescription all the time, rather than after reading and looking at the prescription to intake the medicine in the box,   

By seeing  that others are also doing that,  we tend to think that, that is fine enough to recover back our health, but tragically our end reaches us, thus then we have no time to take the medicine, and we go away sick.

Nobody has ever got cured by just reading a prescription, nor will anyone ever.  

For the curing power is in the medicine only.

The medicine is the remedy for the sickness, no medicine, no cure, but for sure more pain and discomfort.