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challenge_everything Ji, you have had ample time to provide quotes, yet still have not posted these or any digital pics.. :roll:

This to me sounds like Akhand Kirtanee Jatha (AKJ) style simran. They are taught 'saas giraas' simran by the Panj Piyare, which involves saying 'Wahe' during inspiration and 'Guru' during expiration. The resulting sound when saying simran fast is a grrrrrrr type noise. AKJ youth in particular become hyper when doing saas giraas and move thier bodies and shake their heads during raensbhais (all night kirtan). However, the definition of saas = breathing and giraas = morsel of food. So I am not entirely sure why they give this name to a technique of simran. Also I agree with you that Simran should not be done in a manner where the listners cannot make out what is being said. Is there really a need to say gods name with such a high frequency when it sounds terrible? Whatever happened to simran where your soul achieves a state of bliss and shanti? Some of their kirtanees regularly use tunes from hindi films and well known bhangra tunes when singing kirtan. If you attend any of their functions you will see that these tuny kirtanees are far more popular with the youth.

when Sant Kartar Singh left this earth, they also had not notified anyone of the next Jathedar. Jarnail Singh was selected later.

Harpreet Singh - Please save your ustat solely for Guru Ji.

brief conversation between a Panjab Radio presenter and Jasvir Singh (Rode) Dr. Gurdeep Singh Jagbir (Panjab Radio) spoke with Bhai Jasvir Singh about Baba Thakur Singh Ji. Baba Thakur Singh spoke of Baba Jarnail Singh Ji and said that they are alive; and where they live they are in chardi kala. Baba Thakur Singh Ji informed Jasvir Singh where Jarnail was residing. However when questioned Jasvir Singh remained silent about their whearabouts.

== Singh Ji, I can assure you my eye sight is crystal clear. The edition I have is the one published by Bhider Kalaan and Gurdwara Akhand Prakash. I await your exact quotes, page numbers and index ref with anticipation. Just in case we have different copies, I will cross reference your info with a Singh who lives at the Gurdwara and is a student of Baba Mohan Singh Ji.