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June 1984

here is some info on Papi kala afghana: http://www.khalsaalliance.org/index.php?pa...x&article=9 http://www.panthkhalsa.org/kala/kala.php he has been ex-communicated : A Warning to the Sikh community about Gurbakhsh Singh Kala-Afghana. (A former high-ranking intelligence officer of the Punjab Police.) The Sikh community outside of India has managed to prosper in a relatively short period of time as a result of devoted service, hard work, meeting multiple challenges internal and external, and enduring in many cases much hardship. It has become a robust, vibrant community and slowly people everywhere are taking note of the values and teachings of the Sikh Gurus. The Sikh heritage and history are replete with the finest examples of personal sacrifice and nobility of spirit. There are people who would change history and undermine the Gurus teachings by spreading false concepts to the congregations and the common public at large. One such person is Gurbakhsh Singh Kala-Afghana. His supporters hail him as an enlightened scholar but nothing could be further from the truth upon examination of his literature. His writings often indicate a cynical disregard for the most cherished of Sikh institutions as the Khande-ke-Pahul Amrit and recitation of Nitnem. He categorically states that any scripture written outside Guru Granth Sahib Ji is not Gurbani. This includes Jaap Sahib, Tav Prasad Savaye and Kabiyo Bach Bentee Chaupai, which he states were not compositions of the Guru. That in itself would make Nitnem obsolete.The same goes for the writings of Bhai Gurdas Ji and Bhai Nand Lal Ji. If these banees are false then what of Khande-ke-Pahul Amrit? Well he proposes that only Japjee Sahib was recited in 1699. Also, the exclusion of the compositions of Guru Gobind Singh by extension would also invalidate Khande-ka-Amrit. This person and his web of supporters have sought to discredit the most renown Sikh luminaries of the Panth, dedicated souls acknowledged for their selfless service, and sacrifice. He also denies the existence of a Sikh mystical life. Kala Afghana’s works are banned for publication by the Akal Takht Sahib. He and his supporters continue to defy that ban. The Akal Takht Sahib is now seriously evaluating his conduct as a Sikh. Out of all this a pattern now emerges. An attempt is being made to rewrite and corrupt Sikh history and undermine the most basic and cherished of Sikh institutions. Sadh-sangat Jio, concerned dedicated Sikhs everywhere, we urge you to educate yourselves as much as you can about the perverse writings of Kala Afghana and also about Sikh history and practice. Using that knowledge, aggressively challenge such as him by writing rebuttals and verbally when he visits your communities. Then when you are done, turn him out. We urge you to voice your complaints to Sri Akal Takht Sahib as this man’s and his supporters’ conducts are unacceptable and unbecoming of a Sikh. Above all, imbibe the teachings of the Gurus and if you have not, work towards one day taking the Khande-ke-Pahul. Thank you for your attention in this matter. The above information was compiled from various sources by the Sevadars of the Khalsa Panth. from: http://www.panthkhalsa.org/kala/kala.php

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http://www.sikhtoons.com/1984Report.html

http://www.indianexpress.com/full_story.php?content_id=70000 Table ’84 riots report The delay suggests the Congress still does not have the will to overcome the taint of the riots Posted online: Monday, May 09, 2005 at 0007 hours IST The UPA government ought to realise that the tabling of the Nanavati Commission’s report into the 1984 anti-Sikh riots is not just a technical demand or a political pressure tactic. Rather, the tabling of the Report should be seen as the very basis of any moral authority this government can claim. The UPA has consistently claimed to differentiate itself from the NDA on many counts. But its decision to postpone tabling the Nanavati Commission’s report makes a mockery of its claims to provide a different and more legitimate government. For one thing, the government simply has no credible argument to delay tabling the report. Its so-called arguments are mere technicalities with little substance. But, most importantly, by not tabling the report the Congress Party is lending credence to the following charges against it. First, that it still does not have the political will to overcome the taint it incurred because of the association of some party members with the 1984 riots. It has no concern for truth, or justice, for the victims of those riots. Second, the BJP is often accused of having no interest in bringing the perpetrators of riots to justice. Congress’s procrastination on this report suggests that it does not have much interest in bringing justice to the riot victims either. If the party was not complicit in the riots, it should not fear the tabling of the report. If, on the other hand, some of its members were, Congress should use this opportunity to overcome its past complicities in this matter. Either way, tabling the report is the only way to shore up the party’s claims to being different when it comes to its record on communal riots. Third, the Congress has no interest in setting new benchmarks of constitutional propriety or conduct. Parliament, and the public at large, have a right to know the contents of the report. Not all the claims made in the report need to be — or will be — accepted. If the Congress party has reason to find fault with the claims of the Report, it can do so in public. But there can be no getting away from a full discussion of its contents. Although justice for the riot victims is still a distant gleam, we at least owe them this much. The claim of a Congress spokesperson that the NDA had no right to ask for the tabling of the Report since the party was not present in Parliament is completely beside the point. The Nanavati Commission Report is about matters that are too serious to be used cavalierly in a debate. On this issue, the Congress government is on trial, not the NDA. The Congress allies should put pressure on the party to table the Report. Immediately.

Guilty escaped in anti-Sikh riots: Nanavati HARISH DUGH Posted online: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 at 1449 hours IST Updated: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 at 1453 hours IST NEW DELHI, APRIL 20: The NDA-sponsored May, 2002 Nanavati Commission report, submitted to Home Minister Shivraj Patil in February 2005 recommended that certain politicians escaped justice due to bad investigations, according to IANS. Retired Supreme Court judge G. T. Nanavati, who probed the anti-Sikh riots of 1984, in an interview asked the government to reopen cases against a "few politicians" saying investigation against them was not "properly carried out". However, he refused to provide any names, saying , "I have submitted my report to the government. It is up to the government to act," the 70-year-old justice said. The latest of investigative commissions followed on the heels of the earlier Jain-Banerjee Committee, Poti-Rosha Committee and Jain-Aggarwal Committee. While Justice Nanavati trashed any suggestion of the anti-Sikh riots being pre-planned, sources in the Commission, indicated there was “a pattern in which the riots took place" and a "pattern in which the attacks" took place against the Sikhs. On the question of whether the riots were organised, Nanavati said: "It was planned to the extent that Sikh houses were identified and targeted. The rioters knew their houses." Some 3,000 Sikhs were killed in the aftermath of the assassination of the-then Prime Minister of India Indira Gandhi in 1984 by her Sikh bodyguards. Two of whom were subsequently executed. Many then-Congress party leaders, including union minister Jagdish Tytler, former Central Minister Vasant Sathe and Sajjan Kumar, MP, former minister HKL Bhagat were examined by the Commission. Nanavati, however, only went to the extent of pointing out that there was dereliction of duty on the part of Delhi Police for the killings that happened in the Capital in the days following the assassination. The Manmohan Singh-led UPA government has promised to table the report in the current Budget session of Parliament. The agenda of the Commission was to chart the cause and course of the riots and find out if they could have been prevented, and if any governmental agency failed to carry out its duty.

Vaheguru Vaheguru Vaheguru.........

Sant Jee

Sant Jarnail Singh Khalsa Bhindrawale Dhan Guru Dhan Guru De Piyare

ghost did u watch this.......anyone recorded.....if so can you upload it ?

"Drinking and smoking whilst waving a Nishan Sahib have become commonplace. Such activities, are totally against the fundamental principles of Sikhi. This is an appeal to all Sikhs whether they be amritdhari, turbaned or non turbaned, to consider the implications of what they are doing. " This is a really valid point

Bruce Lung you seem to have an agenda to undermine Sikhi anyway possible on these forums. Of course every Sikh or any person for that matter can stop the disrespect/blasphemy of their religion. It is their God given right no matter what country or place they are.

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2005/20050325/punjab1.htm#4 Police officer ‘threatens’ lawyer in Khalra case Tribune News Service Patiala, March 24 Prosecution lawyer and human rights activist Brijinder Singh Sodhi today claimed that he had been threatened with dire consequences by a police officer who is an accused in the Jaswant Singh Khalra disappearance case in the court premises here. Mr Sodhi claimed that the incident occurred when he was going to enter the court at around 11.30 a.m. He said a police officer, Surinderpal Singh, who was the Station House Officer of Sarhali in Tarn Taran when Khalra was kidnapped in 1995, threatened him saying “earlier we might have broken your legs but now we will have to kill youâ€. The lawyer said this blatant threat came after a number of threatening calls received by him on the telephone, including one today morning. He said he had been receiving threatening calls on his mobile number since the last one week. Mr Sodhi said the calls were made from numbers which were not listed and that the callers appeared to be drunk while threatening him with dire consequences in case he persisted in appearing for the prosecution in the case. Mr Sodhi said he would be approaching the court of Additional Session Judge S.P. Bangarh, who is hearing the Khalra case, tomorrow with all relevant details. He said he would also be approaching the President, Prime Minister and other senior officials stating that if anything happened to him or his family in the near future, the accused police officials in the Khalra case would be responsible for it. He said he had not approached the local police as he did not have any faith in it. Defence lawyer Satnam Singh Kler when contacted on the issue, said there was very little chance of such an incident happening today. He said this was because all the lawyers had entered the court twice today in the morning and afternoon sessions and no untoward incident occurred during this period. “Moreover in case Mr Sodhi received any threat from one of the accused he should have informed the court or usâ€. Mr Kler said this was the first time that such an allegation was being made as no such incident had occurred in the three year period since the case was being heard in Patiala. He, however, said in case such an incident had occurred it was unfortunate. Meanwhile the cross examination of CBI Superintendent of Police K.S. Joshi ended today. During the cross examination, the CBI officer, who had investigated the case in the beginning, admitted that the CBI had discarded Special Police Officer (SPO) Kuldeep Singh as a witness in the case. The CBI officer admitted that this was done due to the various flip flops committed by Kuldeep Singh after he gave a statement to the CBI indicting various police officials of murdering Khalra. The defence lawyers also questioned the time of two and a half years taken by Kuldeep to come forward to depose in the case. The prosecution, meanwhile, filed an application asking that Kikar Singh, an earlier witness who had turned hostile, be summoned before the court.

regarding godhra, reports are coming through that the train caught fire actually from within accidentally..... : http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/3892783.stm Here some old news about it: Fresh probe in India train attack Fifty-eight Hindu activists were killed in the attack India's new government has ordered a fresh investigation into an alleged attack on a train which triggered off religious riots in Gujarat state. Fifty-eight people were killed when the train carrying Hindu activists was allegedly torched by a Muslim mob in the town of Godhra in 2002. The incident led to riots in Gujarat in which more than 1,000 people, mostly Muslims, were killed. Some 56 people are being held in connection with the Godhra attack. India's railway minister Laloo Prasad Yadav told parliament on Wednesday that the fresh probe by his ministry would be completed in three months. Unclear An existing investigation into the attack led by two retired judges has yet to pinpoint the exact cause of the fire on the train. It is still unclear whether any inflammable material was hurled into the train from outside or whether a short circuit triggered off the blaze. Mr Yadav told parliament that forensic investigations revealed that inflammable material inside the train had led to the fire. He said the former Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP)-led federal government had not made the forensic report public. The train was carrying passengers returning from the disputed religious site of Ayodhya in northern India, where extremists tore down a mosque in 1992. It came under a barrage of stones and was then set alight as it pulled out of a station in Godhra. The Godhra incident sparked some of the worst religious riots seen in India since the country came into being in 1947. Violence engulfed the state for weeks Independent estimates put the number of people killed by the mobs at closer to 2,000. There were allegations that the attacks on the minority community were carefully-orchestrated - and that members of the state's Hindu nationalist BJP government, played a key role in the rioting. Gujarat's hardline BJP chief minister, Narendra Modi, described the violence as a "natural reaction" to the Godhra attack. He was heavily criticised for failing to stop the violence, but no action was taken against him.

http://www.punjabjustice.org/interviews.htm

Gujurat 2002 reminded Sikhs of Delhi 84 on so many levels........ check out this information from Human Rights Watch http://hrw.org/reports/2002/india/

http://www.awaazsaw.org/awaaz_hinduk.htm The Sangh Pariwar in the UK The Hindu Swayamsevak Sangh (UK) is the RSS's representative in the UK. It has several affiliated organisations active across the UK. The family of HSS–affiliated organisations is called the 'sangh parivar' or 'sangh'. All these organisations promote the political and fascistic ideology of Hindutva (Hindu nationalism), the founding ideology of the Indian RSS. The UK sangh parivar includes: The Hindu Swayamsevak Sangh (HSS UK, charity number: 267309). The HSS has existed in the UK since the mid–1960s, and was registered as a charity in April 1974. In 2002 it had about 70 branches (shakhas) nationally. It is the core organisation to which the other organisations below are affiliated to. Its central office is based in Leicester. It maintains regular links with the Indian RSS. The HSS UK is based on the same ideology of Hindutva (Hindu nationalism) as the Indian RSS. Its shakhas are based on similar methods of physical training and ideological inculcation as those of the Indian RSS. This includes devotional reverence to K. B. Hedgewar (the founder of the Indian RSS in 1924, and promoter of Mussolini's fascist ideas in India) and M. S. Golwalkar (the second Indian RSS leader who was sympathetic to German Nazism), prayer to the bhagwa dhwaj (saffron flag), and propagation of Hindutva ideology among recruits. The Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP UK). This was formed in the UK in 1971 and registered as a charity in August 1972 (charity number 262684). It is affiliated to the Vishwa Hindu Parishad International and maintains strong links with the Indian VHP. The VHP in India has been at the forefront of violent Hindutva campaigns against Muslims, Christians and secularists. The VHP UK has organised events in the UK in support of the Indian VHP's agenda, including the 1989 Virat Hindu Sammelan in Milton Keynes, which included demanding that a Ram temple be built at the site of the Babri Masjid in Ayodhya, Uttar Pradesh. SEWA International UK (SI). The HSS's fundraising wing. Its main fundraising activities are for RSS–led projects in India. It is not a registered charity, but uses the charity number of the HSS UK in its fundraising campaigns. It is a limited company (company number 04482628) incorporated in July 2002. It shares the same address as the HSS. The charity work of the HSS (and the Indian RSS) took off on a large scale from 1989, the year in which the RSS celebrated the birth centenary of the founder of the Indian RSS, K. B. Hedgewar. Hindu Sevika Samiti UK – this is the HSS's women's affiliate and organises over 30 shakhas across the UK. Kalyan Ashram Trust (KAT). Another fundraising organisation that raises funds for Indian RSS projects among adivasi populations to inculcate them in the ideology of Hindutva. It is a registered charity (charity number 261327) and shares the same address as the HSS. Overseas Friends of the BJP – this organises lobbying and support for the Hindu nationalist BJP political party. Friends of India Society International (FISI) – formed in October 1975. National Hindu Students Forum (NHSF) – the largest body of Hindu students in the UK. The NHSF was created with HSS support and its UK offices shared the same address as the HSS. Hindu Sahitya Kendra (HSK) – a Hindutva literature dissemination centre. Political links The UK HSS and UK VHP cannot claim they are unrelated to the Indian RSS and Indian VHP. There are regular political links and meetings between the UK HSS and VHP and the Indian RSS and VHP. For example: On August 27 2000, the Supreme leader of the Indian RSS, K. S. Sudarshan met with several hundred HSS UK members, and representatives of various UK sangh parivar organisations. The Central office of the UK HSS was inaugurated in 1996 by the then Supreme Leader of the Indian RSS, Rajendra Singh. 60 HSS workers and VHP UK representatives attended the World RSS Camp held in Bombay in December 2000 – January 2001, and 34 HSS members attended the Vishwa Vibhag (International) Shiksha Varg at Bangalore in August 2001. The Chair of the UK VHP attended an international meeting of the Indian VHP held at Ahmedabad in December 2000. Sangh parivar members attended a reception in honour of BJP leader Atal Behari Vajpayee on 12 November 2001 In 1999 HSS members visited RSS branches in Jammu and Kashmir, and attended meetings of the Jammu and Kashmir VHP. The President of the Indian RSS's affiliate Rashtriya Singh Sangat visited and talked to HSS gatherings in London, Leicester, Birmingham, Wolverhampton and Ilford in 1999. The Bauddhik Pramukh (Chief Ideology Propagator) of the Indian RSS attended both the HSS Sangh Shiksha Varg (annual camp) and the VHP's Dharma Sansad (religious conclave) held in Leicester on 4 August 2001. The Sangh Shiksha Varg (Europe) Leicester, 28 July–6 August 2000, which is the HSS's annual residential camp, was attended by the Sah–Sampark Pramukh of the Indian RSS. A parallel HSS event held at the same time in Rotterdam was attended by VHP UK representatives as well as Swami Satyamitranand Giri, an important supporter of VHP activities in India, and also the patron of the UK VHP. The World Hindu Conference 2000 in Trinidad and Tobago, was attended both by HSS UK members and by Ashok Singhal (a general secretary of the Indian VHP) and K. S. Sudarshan (the Supreme leader of the Indian RSS). The UK HSS newsletter, Sangh Sandesh regularly includes material from Indian RSS and VHP writers, events, campaigns. This includes regular reports on the leadership, structure and policy of the Indian RSS. Ideological links The UK HSS and UK VHP are committed to the ideology of Hindutva (Hindu nationalism) which is the core ideology of the Indian RSS and Indian VHP. Central to UK HSS shakhas (branches) is veneration of the founder of the Indian RSS (K. B. Hedgewar) and the RSS's second Supreme leader (M. S. Golwalkar). The UK HSS's philosophy (sangh darshan) is identical to that of the Indian RSS, and includes Hindutva (Hindu nationalism), sangathan (the need to organise, build and strengthen Hindus) and shakha (physical exercise and ideological inculcation of Hindu youths). The VHP UK has also actively supported the work of the VHP in India. The HSS and the Hindu Sahitya Kendra actively promote the writings of Hindutva ideologues such as Golwalkar, Savarkar, as well as current senior Indian RSS leaders, such as H. V. Seshadri. Financial links The VHP had an 'Ayodhya Temple Fund' from the mid–1990s. A registered charity in the UK was raising funds in connecting with the violent political campaign by the VHP in India to destroy the Babri Masjid and build a Ram temple in its place. The main financial link between the UK sangh parivar and the Indian sangh parivar is through the activities of Sewa International and the Kalyan Ashram Trust, both fundraising arms of the UK HSS. Sewa International claims to have raised £4.3 million in connection with the Gujarat Earthquake (2001). Sewa International also raises funds for a range of other sectarian projects in India, most of which are RSS projects aimed at adivasi communities and the poor. These include the Vanvasi Kalyan Ashram in India, which a Channel 4 News report in 2002 claimed was directly involved in violence and atrocities against Christian and Muslim communities in Gujarat in 1998–1999 and in 2002. Sewa International UK raises funds for Sewa Bharati (the RSS's sectarian welfare wing). Sewa International UK funds a range of projects in India (including one–teacher schools — ekal vidyalayas, and RSS / Vidya Bharati schools) whose aim is to oppose other religious traditions and inculcate the ideology of Hindutva among recipients of RSS–style education. This is not neutral humanitarian and educational aid but a highly political and sectarian set of activities. The international website of Sewa International (www.sewainternational.org) describes its projects among adivasi children as building feelings of patriotism and strong character, infusing in advasis the love for the nation. The students staying in Sewa–funded hostels are inculcated in 'patriotism'. The parents of these students 'have developed the same following as their children and are always ready to join hands with our army in protecting the borders' . It describes the need for 'dharmic education and samskar' , and how because of the RSS's mission 'hundreds of supported villagers have now developed respect for Hindutwa and have shown willingness to do their mile for the cause of the Hindus.' The necessity of creating shakhas and gaining recruits for the RSS's sectarian and communal projects is stressed throughout . The involvement of RSS and VHP senior leaders is evident in Sewa's activities, as is the necessity of opposing charitable efforts organised by Christians, the need to build Hindu temples and change the names of villages from Muslim to Hindu names. The VHP Ilford Hindu Centre website (we have this archived) mentions the VHP–UK Gujarat Earthquake Fund and states that the VHP is a registered charity in the UK. It lists its projects as: Restoration of Bet Dwarka temple, which includes reconstruction of main temple, a dining hall for 3,000 Hindu pilgrims, and the reconstruction of Dharamshala. Ekal Vidyalaya / Gram Shikshan Mandir in Rajasthan. Under these projects, it says villages in border areas will have education centres that impart training in Gram Samaj Samarastha – inculcation of social integration – Gram Samarakshan (village defence) and Rashtra Raksha (national defence) Sangh parivar organisations receive, or have received in the past, funding from the London Borough of Croydon, London Borough of Brent, London Borough of Waltham Forest, Bradford City Council, Leeds City Council, Coventry City Council, Awards for All. Sangh parivar organisations have received patronage from Lord Mayors in several towns and boroughs including Coventry, Tooting, Wandsworth, Brent and Bradford. They receive active support from some MPs, including Barry Gardiner MP.

this place is scary man :| , u got some right weird ones

eh ? what has this got to with the sangh pariwar terrorist organisations ..............oh well

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I think that you will find Sikh Genocide has happened already ....unless you been asleep or something for last 21 years. What happened in June 1984 (Sri Harmandir Sahib and 37 other Gurudwaras) and November 84 (Delhi and the rest of India) and all the years after where fake police encounters, and murder of Sikh youth took place. sorry for the languange, but to use your words its obvious that you are talking bollox here

Sukh regarding Santhia in London, try emailing info@damdamitaksal.com or check , they maybe able to help

putting oil on kes is good (like amla hair oil) helps you when you comb your kes and dhaari ......