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Dear Manvir, Firsty let me thank you for putting across your question that many sikh children, teenagers and even adults are reminded about again and again. Let me give you a very cler answer. Sikhism did not originate from the Hindu religion. Please read the book by Bhai Kahn Singh Nabha.."Hum Hindu Nahin". The main argument given by some people going all out for prooving that Sikhism is actually Hindusim is : Guru Nanak was born in a Hindu family. that the ancestors of Guru Nanak were Hindu....so Sikhism is an extension of Hinduism. How very ridicolous. I will attempt to answer this question. If we take this view into account can the Hindu, Islamic, Buddh, Christian, Jew scholars respond to the following very simple and basic question: 1. Who were the ancestors of Moses ? What ws their religion ? (The only religion before Moses was Paganism........similar to Hinduism) 2. Who were the ancestors of Christ ? (I think they were Jew) 3. Who were the ancestors of Mohammed ? (Pagans again) So what do the above questions proove .......that there is no religion but paganism......since the base of all religions is paganism..... But then paganism is not a religion ...it is simply worshipping the creation something which the Sikh dharam is against but not the Hindu Dharam. Islam, Christinaity and Judaism are so similar in their teachings, so how can they call their religions to be originals. All these religions made compromises when they introduced intercessors like Satan, Devil, Shaitan, Angels, Heaven, Hell, Hoors, Devi Devtas, Tri Gods, etc. etc. Hindu Gods are so similar to Roman, Greekgods ...so it means all Hinduism is not original.....it came from the Greeks. Sikhism is the only religion which says that there is only ONE God. And that he doesnt need anyone to run his creation. Can any of the learned scholars of the other religions say this aloud. I do hope that I have been able top answer the question to your satisfaction. If you have any other questions, please feel free to post them or PM me .. Fateh, H Singh

Dear All, Fateh, I question which I am abit shy about asking ....as people would think that I am bragging ........Sometimes when I listen to Gurbani Keertan, I get tears in my eyes..........I dont feel sad or joyous ...in what we normally feel.... Can anyone please answer this. Also would like to have the views of the learned moderators on this. Please feel free to cross question me or discuss with ur elders. I have seen similar posts at a number of places ...by a number of people but the answers havent been satisfactory. I though I knew the answer (as I felt it) but when I tried to answer by a young sikh gal who had made the posting ...I dont think I was very successfull.... I would be very thankful for your views Fateh, H Singh

Dear All, Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh, Many a times I wonder whether contemporary science and logic widens the Horizons of our outlook or if it further narrows down the same. Allow me to recount the following incident, which may seem like a curious mix of coincedences to some logical minds (like I used to have) or a 'Divine Sign' Let me add that even though I used to have a logical mind ad a habit of taking tales of legends with a pinch of slat, yet I always believed in the greatness of our Gurus and our martyrs over the passage of time. Yet there was something that always created a shadow of doubt in my mind over some of the stories I heard. (I came to know afterwards that Sri Guru Tegh Bahadur Ji Maharaj writes "that without Bhagti, one always has doubts.......in a beautiful Shabad ..."Har ke naam Bina Dukh Paavae"...{sung beautifully by Bhai Ravinder Singh..Hazoori Raagi}) I had the opportunity of visitng Gurudwara Damadama sahib in New Delhi (The place where Guru Gobnd Singh Ji Maharaj) met Bahadur Shah. As I was coming out, I happened to notice a sign board mentioning the history of the place.. It was mentioned therin that when Guru Maharaj met Bahadur Shah, Bahadur Shah told Guru Ji that he had heard a lot about the bravery of the Khalsa. He humbly requested that were it possible for him to see this with his own eyes and whether one of the Khalsa could actually defeat an Elephant. GuruJi smiled and told Bahadur Shah, that such a feat for a Khalsa soldier is nothing and even a "Jhota--a male cow" would be enough. He then blessed the "Jhota" with his arrow (if I remember correctly from what was written). History has it that the "Jhota" took on the elephant and defeated him. My instantaneous reaction was amazement at the Guru maharaj's feat, but as I moved away from the Gurudwara, logic overtook me. Even though I wanted to believe this story, I couldnt. The logic in me created "Shankas"..It said to me again and again..comon now how can a cow defeat an elephant. Logic told me that the story must have been different from what happened and what happened must have been on a philosphical and logical level. Well, I came back home and turned on the T.V. My favourite channels are eithe Punjabi songs channels, or movie channels like HBO. But for some reason, at that particular moment, I switched on to Discovery. A very interesting documentary was being aired. the documentary was based on animals of the Savanna. The documentary was following the life of a lion herd and the other animals it encounters during its lifetime. Now the first scene that I saw as : 1. A spitting Cobra: An elephant was on the rampage and nothing was standing in its path. Suddenly it enmcounters a spitting cobra in its path. Now the spitting cobra is a type of cobra that stands with its hood flared up and spits venom at the eyes of its victims. This temporarly blinds the victim and the cobra then makes short work of it. Seeing the elephant rushing towards him, the cobra stood its ground, flared its hood and spit its venom. Lo and behold.....the elephant froze in its track. It trumpeted and swayed. But the cobra stood its ground and continued with the offensive.... The thick hide of the elephant wouldnt have fled the slightest sensation and he easily could have crushed the cobar, yet it backed away..... 2. The scene shifts: three lionesses and 2 teenage lions are tracking some african buffaloes ... They suddenly spring up and attack. The herd is taken by surprise and runs helter skelter......all but one small calf.....who got separted from his mother. And thats exactly the lions were looking for...One of the lionesses takes a leap and brings the calf down. .....and all seems lost .......it is impossible to expect the young one to some out of this alive..... But there is no end to "His Nature"......the calf calls out........to the mother. The mother looks back......sees the calf and heads straight for the lions......with a ferocity I have never seen before. She takes on the first lioness...and butts her with the horns. The second one is tossed right into air.....while the rest of the group head for the low branched trees of the savanna... The mother is unstoppable and butts into the trees. The injured lionesses run for cover. Now by this time, I was wondering what all this coincedences meant......what was Guruji trying to tell me ? My egoistical logical mind was now at rest ..I could only conclude that if such ferocity can be found naturally, then the blessigs of our beloved Guru Gobind Singh Ji must have instilled something in that "Jhota" to enable him to defeat the Elephant. I could only then recount the marvel that Guru Gobind Singh Ji conceptualised and created........Khalsa.....The brave of the bravest........with saintliness unmatched........I could only recount Chamkaur, I could only recount how 40 men took on a force of 40,000. I could only recount Anandpur Sahib, I could only recount Baba deep singh Ji, I could only recount Bhai bachittar singh Ji.............and other martyrs..... My Lesson: Let not logic overtake you so much that you start doubting the ability of the Guru. I would love to hear from people who have witnessed similar incidents. Fateh, H Singh