amardeep

Yes. That’s why it’s called mahankosh as it’s the biggest made. I think giani Narayan singh did one no ? Titled dasam shabadarth or something 

5 minutes ago, paapiman said:

What is it about? Dictionary like Mahan Kosh?

 

Bhul chuk maaf

Yes it’s a dictionary of the origin of the word, meaning and use in Guru Granth Sahib. 

On 5/26/2018 at 10:01 AM, paapiman said:

Thanks for bringing this verse up. This verse can actually be used to prove that dancing is prohibited in Sikhism.

The above tuk is not said in a positive sense. It is similar to saying, "the whole world is engrossed in maya and so are you".

The next verse will make it more clear.

ਸੋਈ ਜੀਉ ਨ ਵਜਦਾ ਜਿਸੁ ਅਲਹੁ ਕਰਦਾ ਸਾਰ ॥੧੧੦॥

That soul (or person) alone does not dance with it, who is under the care of the Lord God. ||110||

Let's look into more sources*:

* - This might go a bit off-topic, but it would be good to understand the above verse in details, as it has come up in this discussion.

 

1. Bhai Manmohan Singh jee:

Farid! The world dances as the devil makes it dance and thou too are playing with it;

that person alone dances not, who is under the Lord's care.

 

2. Amir Bhandar Teeka (Interesting footnote from Saarkutavali):

 

3. Prof. Sahib Singh jee:

 

4. Gurbani Arth Bhandar:

 

Bhul chuk maaf

Very good, thanks for sharing those

No he did'n. i happened to read the post myself.

Aarh threaths. Very good. Very mature. Grow up man. Feel free to leave the page if you can't live without swearing. But it's a shame if you leave as  you've added valuable inputs to many topics over the months.

Feel free to leave if you think you can't live without swearing. If you feel that Bhagat Singh insulted you then why did'n you report the comment just like other members report content that is out of line?? Or did you just think of it as an opportunity to bring out trash talk of him being abused as a kid??  You dont make any sense.

The admins on this page dont read every single post that is made, so some people might break the rules without the admins knowing - for the most part we rely on members reporting material that crosses the rules. Now that i've browsed through many posts from recent two weeks I can see there are plenty of posts where you have sweared and used foul language, without it being edited or you being warned. So if you wanna continue claiming that Bhagat got a free pass then you can relax and know for sure that you've had plenty of free passes in the last few weeks also.

I must say this charitar is one of my favorite ones!

On 4/24/2018 at 11:50 PM, Taran Singh said:

Original Nishan Sahib of Guru Gobind Singh ji Maharaj and Khalsa Panth, raised at Gurdwara Nanak Darbar, Cardiff, U.k. 

Has caused some controversy and objection from those few members of the Gurdwara not educated in the tennets or itihaas of Sikhi. Those who prefer to keep the Orange (kesri) flag of the Dogras. 

This is really interesting. Is it still raised outside the Gurdwara?

Bhagat Singh: There is a long and stron tradition behind the Taksal, - their organization however has changed over the centuries. During the Misl and Maharaja period they were known as the Giani samprada or Shaheed Samprada (due to their links with Baba Deep Singh who was the mukhi of the Shahedi misl). They used to be more of a decentralised organisation going from village to village, whereas today they have headquarters etc. Many nirmale in history have wrongfully been labelled nirmale, when they were in fact part of the Giani/Taksal Samprada - the most famous being Kavi Santokh Singh and also Badan Singh (if I remember correctly) who wrote the Faridkot Teeka.

Their main claim to fame has been the tradition of santhia and arth going back to Guru Gobind Singh through Bhai Mani Singh.

51 minutes ago, samurai2 said:

What country are you from? Normal? Yes it is grammatically correct but it is also an insult. Are you not aware of this? \unlike your boyfriend i also trade insults in direct industrial language. 

Again to reiterate, as you phudus here have a tendency to pick and choose what you want to see/hear, the original comment from your boyfriend was an insult. Do you get this or not? 

I don’t know why you keep arguing. You’ve had a trash language for months and have had your posts edited and deleted by admin crew many times over, stop acting like an innocent kid claiming to defend yourself against others. Your example of child abuse was way over the top. You call it industrial language, while others will call it American trailer trash talk. It’s not a human right to talk like that and use such disgusting language, so stop it. If you have an issue with Bhagat then by all means discuss with him but don’t Use swear words and disgusting language along the way. 

And you didn answer what being abused as a kid has to do with a discussion on gurbani and grammar??

That’s a normal expression in English. Would you say your comment about him being abused as a kid is something of a  normal English expression? 

41 minutes ago, samurai2 said:

..Sorry my mistake, this is correct, siharee is a short sharp biharee, or biharee is a dragged out siharee

 

Amardeep stop being a prick, why edit? all i said is bhagatee got touched up as a boy via his shit exit...

And you think that’s a constructive way to speak to someone while engaged in a discussion on gurbani and grammar  ? 

1 hour ago, paapiman said:

Ang 158

ਨਚਿਐ ਟਪਿਐ ਭਗਤਿ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥

By dancing and jumping Lord's worship is not performed.

Also, we have the bachan from a Rehatnama prohibiting dancing. This info (along with the rest provided in this thread) is more than enough to prove that dancing is highly discouraged in Sikhism.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

People who do Bhangra doesn’t claim it’s an act of worshiping god. So they would probably agree with this verse and continue their dance 

It’s an interesting topic actually. How you are deceived by media and politicians who are in many cases telling the truth to you. Their own ministries tell us about their scandals, failures and unjust policies yet we just continue to remain under deceit and continue to vote for them.  We don’t really care. They don’t even have to lie.  Their own media tells us that we are under constant surveillance while social media are tapping us for data.we know it but are blinded. Proper deceit while we are feed the truth. 

Also the note that the husband is an idiot is interesting. 

Could it be the wise minister trying to say: I am telling you the truth with these stories and I am hereby trying to make you subvert your decision (of Executing your son)

Yes this is an interesting charitar - using truth to subvert a situation 

1 hour ago, chatanga1 said:

No. Erotica is designed to sexually stimulate someone. CharitroPakhyan is definitely not created to do this. Nidar writing it as such is just giving more ammo to those who call the stories pornography, when it clearly isn't.

Oops my bad. I was thinking of eroticism. The content , not in terms of what it invokes in people. 

Does the CP qualify as shingaar ras according to the braj basha parameters ? 

Just now, kdsingh80 said:

Christians and Muslims too are minority but they are not rich.It has more to do with Bania mentality.Jews , Jains and Parsis all are very good businessmen with Bania mentality

Christians And Muslims don’t really posses a minority mentality for generations as do Sikhs Jews and Jains etc.  Muslims who’ve come to Europe make up the majority in their homelands. Sikhs who’ve come to Europe made up a minority in India as do they in Europe. 

The Sikh panth became a dumb panth the day Sikhs started to demand poetry, writings, art, kirtan training etc. for free.

A panth that patrons and appreciates their scholars and artists is a panth that flourishes. A panth that asks for stuff for free is a panth going down.

Yes he will take Sikhi very far in the Western World.

18 hours ago, chatanga1 said:

The title is not excellent. The underlined part shows it in a wrong light. This is not the ethos of the granth.

well one can't deny that erotica makes up a part of the granth alongside those other Things that are mentioned.

It’s a minority thing. You see the same with Jews, Jains and Zarathustras