amardeep

1 hour ago, Singh123456777 said:

Chankiya neeti talks about good wife etc in details.

Yep in a very medieval and harsh way. Much of its talk on women is pure non sense 

Hah oooopsiiii

Oops my bad 

Yes bhagat dhanna sorry. 

In one Shabad of Bhagat Naamdev he asks for a beautiful wife, strong horse, house etc. Nothing wrong in asking for physical things 

Urdu 

http://sridasam.org/shahmukhi/Gurm-Urdu, SGGS-SBS.pdf

On another note it could talk about the balance in spiritual life vs. worldly life ie balanced grishti. In this case we are dealing with a guy that spends all his time on spirituality to the extent that he is being taken advantage of by people. He is refered to as an idiot for spending all his time on spiritual matters.

I think Nidar Singh did a video on this charitar.

It's similiar in theme but not in degree to the earlier charitar where the Truth is used to decieve. The deception is in front of you - completely visible - but you do not see it

The link between the medieval trade routes and the spread of Sikhi is quite interesting.

Deception through flattery

ਬਾਵਨ ਕਵੀ ਗੁਰੂ ਢਿਗ ਰਹੈ। ਮਨਿਆ ਉਨ ਮਹਿ ਗੁਨੀਆ ਅਹੈ।
ਸ੍ਰੀ ਮੁਖ ਤੋਂ ਕਲਗੀਧਰ ਆਪੈ। ਬੀਰ ਰਸ ਕੀ ਕਥਾ ਅਲਾਪੈ।
ਕ੍ਰਿਸ਼ਨ ਚਰਿਤਰ ਮਧ ਹੈ ਜਾਨੋ। ਖੜਗ ਸਿੰਘ ਕਾ ਯੁਧ ਪਛਾਨੋ।
ਜਿਸ ਤੇ ਸੁਨਤ ਕਾਇਰਤਾ ਭਾਗੈ।ਧਰਮ ਜੁਧ ਮਹਿ ਹੋਈ ਅਨੁਰਾਗੇ।
(ਚੋਪਈ 47, ਸ਼ਹੀਦ ਬਿਲਾਸ ਕਵੀ ਸੇਵਾ ਸਿੰਘ)

In the history of Sikhism it has been firmly established that the Khatri caste played a significant
role in the development of the medieval Sikh community. Moreover, the Khatris in the Mughal
period grew into a prominent commercial and scribal caste. However it has never been considered
why Sikhism, in the context of the Khatri’s medieval commercial expansion, attracted
a large Khatri following. In this article I endeavour to explore the appeal of Sikhism to the
medieval Khatri community by examining early Sikh thought on trade and commerce. In addition,
I attempt to embed the influence of Sikhism within the development of the medieval Khatri
merchant family. And consider how the growth of the Khatri merchant network resulted in the
spread of Sikhism across Mughal north India.

http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.885.9901&rep=rep1&type=pdf

Oh.  So the line is 

khorasan was protected, Hindustan was subdued. 

Gurfateh

Can anyone help out with an interpretation of the below bani in terms of Babur and the conquest of Khurasan:

ਖੁਰਾਸਾਨ (khuraasaan)

Meaning: noun: Khurasan or Khorasan, the Persian province of Khorasan, a vast historical region presently lying in northeastern Iran, southern Turkmenistan and northern Afghanistan.

Quote:
ਖੁਰਾਸਾਨ ਖਸਮਾਨਾ ਕੀਆ   ਹਿੰਦੁਸਤਾਨੁ ਡਰਾਇਆ॥
(ਕਰਤਾ ਪੁਰਖ ਨੇ) ਖੁਰਾਸਾਨ ਦਾ ਖਸਮਾਨਾ ਕੀਤਾ (ਖਸਮ ਵਾਲਾ ਬਿਰਦ ਕਰਕੇ ਉਸ ਨੂੰ ਬਾਬਰ ਰੂਪ ਜਮ ਤੋਂ ਬਚਾ ਲਿਆ ਅਤੇ) ਹਿੰਦੁਸਤਾਨ ਨੂੰ ਭੈ-ਭੀਤ ਕਰ ਦਿਤਾ ਹੈ। 

khuraasaan khasmaanaa keeaa   hiňdustaan ḍaraaiaa.
(The Creator) has owned or protected Khurasan and has terrified Hindustan (through the agency of Babur). -Guru Nanak Sahib, Guru Granth Sahib, 360

Notes: Generally, the quote is interpreted as “Having conquered Khurasan, Babur invaded Hindustan.” However, it is not very clear if Babur ever conquered or ruled Khurasan region.

Historical sources tell us that Khurasan was ruled by Genghis Khan, Timur, the Afghans, Iranian Safavid  kings, and Nader Shah. The Iranian Safavid kings ruled Khurasan from 1502–1736. So when did Babur conquer Khurasan?

At the age of 12, Babur succeeded his father Umar Shaikh Mirza of Fergana (now in Uzbekistan) and reigned there from 1494-97 and 1498-1500. 

From 1497-98, 1500-01, and 1511-12, Babur ruled over Samarkand, a city currently in Uzbekistan. In 1504, he became ruler of Kabul where he reigned until 1526. It was from here that he began his conquest of Hindustan, which was then ruled by the Afghan Lodi dynasty. 

I doubt that he will win the election in 2019 but the fact that he is contributing to bringing Sikhs on the map and mainstreaming the Roop is a great success in itself. Maybe in 2030-2040 a Sikh will be able to rule a western country   

Beautiful

who is this

Harjit Sajjan has written condolences on his facebook but that's all i have seen. The Canadian Sikh World Organizaton has provided consultancy in the past to help Afghan Sikh Refugees enter Canada.

Yeah that's a good point. Something similiar happened in 18th century Punjab with the Sikhs going into mountains and forrest areas to flee persecution, while a few stayed behind (mostly Udasis) and took care of the places of worship.