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I agree Hindus coming from west punjab were mostly Sikh haters Arya Samajis, just like jews we should encourage sikhs to come live in punjab specially in Doaba urban areas . This the the right time that we Sikhs should try get autonomy for Punjab .

Sikh Militant movement was reply to injustice , discrimination , biased attitude against Sikhs ,sadly which is still continue .

Can you condemn the poisonous speeches given by SOME Sikh leaders even today? Which speech ? Can you condemn JSB's vitriolic attacks (speeches) on Hindus and clean-shaven sikhs? Many of his speeches were reply to fanatic Hindus who were threatening Sikhs . Can you condemn the murders of l jagat narain, Gurbachan Singh, Longowal, Ravidassi Sant and thousands others who were killed because of their opposition to the Khalibans or just because of their faith? I have said earlier that i condemn attack on innocent people but Guru Nindaks like Jagat narain deserve that . Since punjabi suba movement he was spreading venom against Sikhs .

I will start with Punjab water and Chandigarh issue : How many Hindus did come out in support of Punjab water issue and Chandigarh ? I don't remember any gathering of you people in support of Punjab rights . Thanks to you people Punjab will never get its basic rights . Thanks to you people punjab is bilingual state. Thanks to you people Chandigarh type issue have become Sikh demand instead of Punajbis demand . You people are curse of punjab and irony is that, still you called your self Punjabis

I again request all of you to focus on the questions i have asked , let Hindu jihadi answer these and then we will discuss each and every thing including all anti muslim riots in India , all anti Sikh riots after 1984 etc . Hindu Jihadi is running away from questions , he doesn;t want to talk about his community anti sikh attitude since 1984 he just want to to talk about Nirankari and Arya Samaji ,Guru Nindak , panth virodhi , punjab virodhi Lala Jagat Narain.

I will answer all you bullshit but before that your views on below I am still waiting for you reply on the below questions, why are you running away from these . Declaring Hindi as mother tongue Why you people dont come out in support of punjab water rights and Chandigarh ? Why Hindus supported Nirankaris against Sikhs ? Do you condemn the attack on Sikhs by goons like Harbans Lal and Pawan Kumar Sharma

Regrading Nirankari - Sikh we wil discuss this later . You Hindus have no right to talk about this its between Sikhs and Nirankaris but f you still want to discuss then i will also every anti Muslim and Christian riots is it ok with you ? I am still waiting for you reply on the below questions, why are you running away from these . Declaring Hindi as mother tongue Why you people dont come out in support of punjab water rights and Chandigarh ? Why Hindus supported Nirankaris against Sikhs ? Do you condemn the attack on Sikhs by goons like Harbans Lal and Pawan Kumar Sharma I would also request others to focus on the above question let this Hindu Jihadi say truth . These question will bring out poison these people have .

What about spade from you community ? When are you going to accept that your people anti sikhs activities push the sikhs for arm movement ? I have still not hear from you on the following issue : Declaring Hindi as mother tongue Why you people dont come out in support of punjab water rights and Chandigarh ? Why Hindus supported Nirankaris against Sikhs ? Do you condemn the attack on Sikhs by goons like Harbans Lal and Pawan Kumar Sharma Their are so many issue which i will discuss later , lets see whats you reply on above questions

Sikhs never started anything they retaliate and i have already said that i condemn killing of innocent people . Indian intelligence agencies planned attack on Hindus to defame Sikh movement that the FACT ! When you say bullshit against Sikh Gurus then you should be prepared for whats coming . Hindu Jihadi likes you start with brotherhood and then Nationalism and then come out the real face . " Muh me ram bagal me churi:

I still say shopkeepers should be heavily fined for not using Gurmukhi signboards. Even i dont understand you obsession with devnagri script . In Hindu temples you will see only Hindi that's the fact accept it or not . When i said Hindi should be banned in Punjab ? Would you like to comment on Hindu declaring Hindi as their mother tongue ?

Above video is a Hindu India government sponsor and all the attacks on Hindus were done by government sponsor fake khadkus . I condemn these killing . Hindu have nothing to do with Sikh- Nirankari issue just like we sikhs have nothing to do with Hindu - Muslim issue . Sikhs should not spare any Guru Nindak be it Gurbachan or Arya Lala Jagan Narain but no innocent should be touched .

It is tragic that some of our Punjabi Hindus should be betraying their own State's welfare by not supporting the common cause of Chandigarh and River waters etc., and thus alienating themselves from the Sikhs. Their most unfair and mean opposition to the Sikh religious demands, e.g. demonstrating with cigarette packets on Sikh swords in a communal procession through the streets of Amritsar, are the kind of high degree of provocations which cause disharmony and the rift which we witness today between the two communities. Due to the frequent biased press reporting Sikhs have not been able to present the true picture of their grievances across the nation. I will advise the Sikh politician to invite few prominent Hindus from each state of India to Amritsar to discuss their grievances and impress upon them the genuine sincerity of their demands which are within the framework of the constitution.

Bahman apni galtiya man lae , te aa pad : Harbans lal khanna a leader of jan Sangh Party’s amritsar unit declared that he would lead the hindus and Nirankaris to reopen the Nirankaris Bhawans on 27th august. Its was Sikh Nirankari issue then why Hindus interfere in it ? Did Sikhs attacked any Hindu temple or distroy any Hindu god idol where what you people did : Under the command of Harbans Lal Khanna, his mobs destroyed the golden statue of Sri Darbar Sahib at Amritsar railway station and they also got the photo of Guru Ram Das Ji and burnt it with cigarettes. The slogans Harbans Lal Khanna used against the Sikhs were: Duki Tiki Rehen Nahi Deni Siir Te Pagri Rehen Nahi Deni! Kangha, Kara, Kachera, Kirpan Ehnu Pejo Pakistan!” Why Punjabi Hindus always opposing every Sikh demand made to the Government, be it a demand for a holy city or the naming of one train after the Golden Temple, or even naming of a road inside Punjab after the Guru's name ? Amritsar Hindus for several years they bitterly opposed our demand with their demonstrations and processions and then at the last minute they asked for a similar status for a contemporary non-historic Hindu Temple. The Hindu opposition to the naming of Guru Gobind Singh Marg reflects their anti-Sikh prejudice. Dr G. P. Mansukhani, a Sindhi professor and author, agreed with the Akali complaint on biased newspaper reporting. He said. "If you were to trace the background of a reporter or an editor behind a particular anti-Sikh report, you would probably find him to be an Arya-Samajist." Late Lala Narian's persistent role in anti-Sikh activities (including that of his support to the Nirankaris) and his staunch communal tendencies were clearly reflected in his popular daily newspaper in Punjab. Prof. Mansukhani was hesitant to blame Hindus or Sikhs as such and put most of the responsibility on the Arya-Samaj's imposing their anti-Sikh communal views on the Hindus of Punjab, Haryana and neighbouring states and also adversely influencing the R.S.S. The Samaj has since recently started fanning anti-Sikh feelings in Maharashtra as well. He explained to us the history of Punjab Arya-Samaj and the role it has played in influencing Government decisions and in worsening Hindu-Sikh relationships. Of late some of them have started a shocking new anti-Sikh campaign, saying that since the wars arc now fought with guns and not with swords any more, a Sikh is no better soldier than any one else and the Indian army can do without Sikhs if need be. Even the most ridiculous anti-Sikh invention of this kind seems to have possibly influenced some Government and political circles. 3 communal incidents of Punjab happened in Hindu majority cities of Amritsar, Jullunder and Patiala, with over 60% Hindu population and no similar incidents in the villages, where Sikhs are in majority. Pawan Kumar Sharma, (President of Hindu Suraksha Samiti in Patiala) from whom huge stocks of arms, explosives and hand grenades were recovered. On 11.11.83 the "Tribune" reported that police has recovered, 3 pistols, cartridges and 2 turbans and yellow cloth from the car used in the major Bank robbery on 9. I I .83 in Chandigarh. This startling piece of information (discovery of Turbans) confirms the involvement of dacoits and antisocial elements using turbans during the time of their crimes. This report provides credibility to strong Akali feelings that the recent inhuman killings near the border, of innocent Hindu passengers in the bus were not carried out by the Sikhs but by some non-Sikh criminals wearing turbans. Possibility of foreign agents in this particular case can not be ruled out.

My question is why not to have Gurmukhi script ? why cant you people tolerate it , why devnagri script in one more state when we have Hindu in it all over north India ? Do you dare to implement Marathi in this script ? In my opinion all there should be law that all shopkeepers should have signboard in gurmukhi and it should be strictly implemented specially urban area where we know that a fanatic community will oppose it . Hindus are proud of their mother tongue ? Those people who declare Hindi as their mother tongue cant be punjabi . As far i know and what i have seen in punjab is that in Hindu temples only Hindi is used not ven punjabi in devnagri script . And regarding you Kapoors and mehras , Why these people dont come out to promote punjabi film industries ? Its Sikhs who are promoting Punjabi all over world where as your kind even in Punjab have starting speaking in Hindi

This is experience of former IAS offier Gurtej Singh

Here comes fudu again , for your kind information i dont drive truck and comes out of your wonderland . Majority of Hindus declare hindi as their mother tongue is a fact . People like you who are insult to Sikh have no right to come to sikh forums go attend RSS parade and shout Bharat mata ke jai , bahman devta ke jai . Pata ne saale fudu kitho aa jande ne

Mr. Romesh Chopra denied that Mr. R. K. Jalota had stayed with Pundit N. N. Bhutara, he did not allow Bhutara's entry into the Mandir Devi Talab, the headquarters of the Shiv Sena and that no activists from outside, except Jalota and Sarwal, had entered the town. He further denied his hand in the fire incident and said that he held the Holy Granth in reverence. He alleged that Mr. Jaswant Singh, Jathedar Iqbal Singh, and Mr. Ra vinder Singh, Advocate, instigated the villagers against him. On the other hand, Mr. Ravinder Singh, Advocate, alleged that the Sikhs suspected Mr. Chopra to be a culprit and the authorities had connived with the culprits. Accusing finger at Darbara-Balwant A few senior Hindu Advocates of the Nakodar Bar Association revealed that on the night of February 7, 1986, a similar incident took place in the Shankar village Gurdwara where the culprit had been allegedly captured red-handed and handed over to the Police. He was said to be a Hindu from UP in the garb of Sikh and was let off.Mr. Umrao Singh and Mr. Swaran Singh belong to this village.

I. B. man visits Nakodar The Committee examined Mr. Sukhdev Singh Sandhu. Mr. Ravinder Singh, Mr. Sudarshan Singh Bains, Mr. Varinderpal Singh and Mr. C J Jain, Advocates; Mr. Romesh Chopra alias Khan, Mr. Mohan Singh Sectional Officer (SO) of the Punjab Works Department (PWD), Mr. Swaran Singh, Mr. Tejinder Singh, Mr. Jatinder Singh, Mr. Gurinder Singh, Mr. Pritu Balmiki, Mr. Bachittar Singh, Mr. Mohinder Singh, Mr. Sohan Singh, Bhai Sukhchain Singh Granthi, Mr. Simratpal Singh, Mrs. Gurdip Kaur wife of the Granthi, Mr. Prem Sagar, Municipal ommissioner, Piara Singh, Ex-President Gurdwara and Mr. Vijay Nayar of the Shiv Sena. Observations of several other persons who did not want to disclose their identity were also recorded. A witness claimed that on February 2, he saw Mr. Umrao Singh, a Congress (1) leader along with Mr. Ranjit Singh Bhinder, a DSP of Intelligence Bureau (IB), getting down from a jeep. They entered the house of Pundit Narinder Nath Bhutar a alias "Nindo." Pundit Nindo is said to be a patron of the Shiv Sena and a close confidant of Mr. Darbara Singh, the former Chief Minister of Punjab. Mr. Nindo had also acted as Election in-charge of Mr. Darbara Singh in the past. After Mr. Umrao Singh and the IB person left the town the Shiv Sena workers from outside started reaching the town. According to Mr. Mohan Singh, (SO, PWD), when the news of the influx of Sena workers reached the villages, about 40-50 persons reached the outskirts of Nakodar where the DSP of Nakodar, Mr. Gopal Singh Ghuman advised them to go back. He told them that they could not be allowed to go inside the town due to curfew restrictions and assured them that the Gurdwaras were safe. Upon which they returned to their homes. Mr. Ramesh Chopra alias Khan admitted that he was regarded as a prime suspect from the very first day as he had been informed by Mr. Prem Sagar, the Municipal Commissioner (MC) the same evening. He added that the Sikhs had given an ultimatum to the police to arrest him by 6.00 PM on February 3. He had therefore, collected Shiv Sena activists in Moha lla Tandona and took out a procession at 6.30 PM in a show of his strength while raising inflammatory slogans, "Jai Shiv Shakti, Jai Trishul." The administration imposed curfew restrictions immediately

Shiv Sena plans march The Punjab Hindu Shiv Sena wanted to take out a procession but the authorities thought it prudent to clamp curfew at 7:00 PM on February 3. Baba Joginder Singh and the Shiv Sena leader, Rama- kant Jalota, arrived at Nakodar the same day but the Baba left the town at 5:30 PM The same night the police arrested 12 Sena activists who were violating curfew restrictions and moving around with unsheathed swords. Earlier, on February 3, some Sikh youths staged a dharna (protest) outside the Police station and the Bus Stand demanding the arrest of local Shiv Sena leader Mr. Romesh Chopra alias Khan, a vegetable commission agent, who, they alleged, was responsible for the fire. At about 4.00 PM a large number of villagers joined the youths and sieged the police station and demanded the arrest of the alleged arsonists. The District Magistrate, Mr. S. C. Aggarwal and the Senior Superintendent of Police (SSP), Mr. Izhar Alam rushed to the town with Police re-enforcement. There was tension in the town. It ulti-mately led to firing by the Police on February 4, 1986, killing at least four persons and injuring many more, for which the Punjab Government announced a judicial inquiry. The All India Sikh Students Federation (AISSF) rejected the inquiry and called it as "a mere eyewash." The Federation demanded registration of criminal cases against the Deputy Inspector General of Police (DIG) and police officers responsible for killing the people. They denied the official version of "four deaths" and added that many more persons had died and over two dozen injured. The Federation observed "Black Day" on February 8, 1986, and asked the Chief Minister to resign on the ground of his failure to control the police force which had killed "innocent Sikh youths."

A MISCHIEF AT NAKODAR FEBRUARY 2, 1986 INTRODUCTION The news of burning of sacred "Birs" of Guru Granth Sahib in Guru Arjun Dev Gurdwara in Guru Nanak Pura Mohalla, of Nakodar in Jalandhar District spread like wild fire on February 2, 1986. There was a spontaneous strike to protest against the desecration of the holy Granth in the town that day. On February 3, 1986, lawyers stayed away Courts and students abstained from educational institutions. On a call by the Akali Dals' a prot est march was organised jointly by the Sikh and Hindu communities. Citizens, including women and children participated in the procession. A strike was observed in the town.

Let talk more on this whatever happened in Punjab is because of the communal politics (inc terrorism) led by Sikhs? I believe its way around its because of your kind punjab suffer a lot . I have given enough evidence on it and will provide you more but just like typical punjabi lala you will not accept dont you ?

Here comes another Bharat Mata da puttar who doesn't want to believe in reality and want to close his eyes like pigeon . I have explained each and every thing but coward, hindu lovers doesn't want to understand . I have spent many years in Haryana and Delhi and i very well know what normal punjabi Hindu think of Sikhs . Better you come out of punjab and see outside whats happening . Problem of Sikhs is HIndu and Sikh issues and people who have observe events since 1947 would be agree with me . God saves us from Fudus like you its just because of you type some Sikhs still think that asking for our rights we did mistake and that's why anti Sikhs riots happened . Even i am sick and tired of you fools who comes out on sites and behaving like avtaar of Mahatam Gandhi and telling Sikhs that its your mistake dont say anything to Hindus what happened was done by government blah blah blah . Look around whats happening in India , how a muslim killers has been give a demi god status and slogans of HAR HAR Modi . Badal and Punjab police is nothing they all are part of Hindu India system which need to be broken , look what happened in Bhai Gurbakh Singh khalsa case and on the other Anna Hazzare fast .

What you want to prove , how can you justify anti sikh violence by Hindus during Punjabi Suba movement . When you are going to accept what all happened in Punjab is because of punjabi hindus .

We dont hate any language , we want punjabi in gurmukhi script should be implemented in Punjab . Hindi is in many states why Punjabi Hindus cant tolerate Gurmukhi ? Why you people want to oppose every Sikh demand . Lakhs of tourist also go to south India where is Hindi is hardly spoken by people still tourist manage . When south and Marathis Hindu are proud of mother ttheir mother tongue why not you people ? Special panel of expert people should be set up to understand the psyche of Punjabi Hindus , i believe there is something seriously wrong with these guys .

Last year when Shaheedi Memorial was building in the memory of operation blue star Hindu media created so much hue and cry saying Sikhs are creating Khalistani Memorial , Terrorist memorial etc . How many of you have hear about harbans lal khanna 'Samark' at Amritsar. For Hindus he is a big martyr and they have created its smarak in city not inside any Mandir . And why they loved him so much : 1984 Harbans Lal Khanna, a former M.L.A. and B.J.P.’s Amritsar district president, is shot dead along with his bodyguard. Eight Sikhs were killed and nine were injured during the funeral procession the next day. The Hindu mobs under the command of Harbans Lal Khanna did many protests against the Sikhs in Amritsar, in which the Hindu racist mobs would attack Sikhs and their businesses as well as Sikh gurudwaras. Under the command of Harbans Lal Khanna, his mobs destroyed the golden statue of Sri Darbar Sahib at Amritsar railway station and they also got the photo of Guru Ram Das Ji and burnt it with cigarettes. The slogans Harbans Lal Khanna used against the Sikhs were: “Duki Tiki Rehen Nahi Deni Siir Te Pagri Rehen Nahi Deni! Kangha, Kara, Kachera, Kirpan Ehnu Pejo Pakistan!” The Indian law never charged Harbans Lal Khanna for his racist slogans. On 1st April 1984 from the second floor of Guru Ram Das Langar Hall, Sant Jarnail Singh Ji Bhindranwale spoke out against the attacks on Sikhs by the groups of Harbans Lal Khanna. The message Sant Jarnail Singh Ji Bhindranwale sent to Harbans Lal Khanna and the Sikh nation was: “In Haryana 24 saroops of Guru Granth Sahib Ji were burnt. Six gurudwaras were also burnt. Twelve trucks and two cars of the Sikhs were burnt. Hundred and 25 singhs hair were forcefully cut and sent to me. Three Sikh girls were made to stand naked on the main road for 2 hours. For seven days this kept on happening. They have insulted our Sikh girls. The girls are crying, no one was saving them on the main road. Till the culprits are not punished, I will not rest. Also this message has been sent to Bhajan Lal, that he can live in the middle of the ocean but I will definitely meet him at whatever cost 1984 Harbans Lal Khanna, a former M.L.A. and B.J.P.’s Amritsar district president, is shot dead along with his bodyguard. Eight Sikhs were killed and nine were injured during the funeral procession the next day. The Hindu mobs under the command of Harbans Lal Khanna did many protests against the Sikhs in Amritsar, in which the Hindu racist mobs would attack Sikhs and their businesses as well as Sikh gurudwaras. Under the command of Harbans Lal Khanna, his mobs destroyed the golden statue of Sri Darbar Sahib at Amritsar railway station and they also got the photo of Guru Ram Das Ji and burnt it with cigarettes. The slogans Harbans Lal Khanna used against the Sikhs were: The Indian law never charged Harbans Lal Khanna for his racist slogans. On 1st April 1984 from the second floor of Guru Ram Das Langar Hall, Sant Jarnail Singh Ji Bhindranwale spoke out against the attacks on Sikhs by the groups of Harbans Lal Khanna. The message Sant Jarnail Singh Ji Bhindranwale sent to Harbans Lal Khanna and the Sikh nation was: “Duki Tiki Rehen Nahi Deni Siir Te Pagri Rehen Nahi Deni! Kangha, Kara, Kachera, Kirpan Ehnu Pejo Pakistan!” “In Haryana 24 saroops of Guru Granth Sahib Ji were burnt. Six gurudwaras were also burnt. Twelve trucks and two cars of the Sikhs were burnt. Hundred and 25 singhs hair were forcefully cut and sent to me. Three Sikh girls were made to stand naked on the main road for 2 hours. For seven days this kept on happening. They have insulted our Sikh girls. The girls are crying, no one was saving them on the main road. Till the culprits are not punished, I will not rest. Also this message has been sent to Bhajan Lal, that he can live in the middle of the ocean but I will definitely meet him at whatever cost”.