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ive not heard satguru ji say it himself, but yes altho im not a veer lol, i can confirm that this is th common belief amongst namdhari's of what satguru ji's wishes are

or u can giv them th shardai from bhaini sahib which has wayyy too much sugar in it, giv them diabetes....and win! AKAAAAAL!

yeah have jus recently returned from sri bhaini sahib and patsha ji's health is gettin quite bad, but he still does know what is going on around him and i personally hav compleate faith tht satguru ji know's what he is doing...and i along with loads of others is jus waitin to c wata gwaan n what will happen nxt, i feel a big suprise in store lol, but all jokes aside....i admit its scary not knowin whats around th corner...

well good luck to them, but i reckn ud need more skills to fight in a battle with nihung singhs (whether it jus b a paintballin one) than u wud say jus on a average trip to paintballin wiv mates

in britain its become symbolic, coz ull get done for using it, and no satguru gobind singh didnt want it on th kanga, hence he didnt make it like tht, but for us satguru ram singh, did want it on th kanga, and also wasnt talkin bout ther being no oppression in india, i was talkin bout namdharis outside of india BUT also, th oppression in india today will again not b tackled by the means of the sword or violence...as was seen in th dal recently, whoever has th government on their side will suceed or else ull b thrown into jail....for th meanwhile tho...in th end people will get what they deserve

and also guru gobind singh didnt intend for kuria to wear kirpan or even join th khalsa, but many have....jus to throw tht in...

also i agree with everything neo says...shastar vidiya is very important i am very for upholding traditions, but with stuff like strong police n goverment etc wars, fights etc jus get u locked up, personalli believe in this day and age u shud not lift ure kirpan or start a fight for the sake of 'religion' or anything for tht matter, unless th reason for which u r fighting is so important ure willing to go to jail for it

sorry im startin to contradict my points lol, im TRYING to make sum sort of point, soz for all th waffling too, im trying lol

holla maholla- attack and re-attack....so i guess its a bit like paintballin innit...

kalki avtaar gets it wrong, but then satguru ram singhs comes along (woohooo) and saves all our souls

haha the exact reason the kirpan is in th kanga and not in the gatra is bcoz of not much oppression these days-we dont need it readily available in our gatra, the kirpan in this day and age (mainly in countries outside of india) is entirely ceremonial and symbolical coz we'd get done for using it-or if its over how ever many inches long, language barriers however, is a practical thang that needed overcoming

ACTUALLY!! dnt we shudnt translate it into english, jus read th gurmukhi and kinda sum up whats said, btw that's satguru ji's hukam is not the translate any bani into english or foriegn language oz its not gonna b an exact translation hunna, it wasnt not to learn english...i think...although it does sound like a possible hukam coz of th hatred against british, but nowadays bare namdharis live all over th place so i guess learn th lingo has gotta b done, we arent under much oppresion these days...

yooo i got a good idea someone translate sat guru ramsinghs rehet nama readily available in any namdhari nitnem, i wud take on this seva but i cant translate gurmukhi or punjabi let alone slowy slowly read it...

hahaha dynamic banda i agree! but there hav bin sum kook's goin kook to raag!! but if u listen to the way alot of namdhari's do raag kirtan especially th hazoori...it is very lively and still in raag and so leads to kooking...but true, dholki shane is grrreat! but i dont think th investment into raag was th means to get away from the kooking! it was an investment into th purtan tradition of err....well...gurmat sangeet...duh!

lol apologies, that was my brother posting under my name- thats what happens when u leave ure computor runnin people... but he was right, but yes neo, only 'one' of few....

one aspect why us namdharis have exceld in music is becuase we are the only people that have kept or have been lucky to keep actual bandishes (tunes) from amritsar made by the gurus.

haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, deadline passed long time, lol, alot of confusion of who's who is going on in here but only I KNOW EVERYTHING THAT IS GOING ON!! not even bucket knows th full story, even tho he thinks he does :-P

tis a good book man! on th last few pages