PAL 07

sat sri akal ji,

I am new to this forum. So i would like to discuss a query related to the shape of the turban wore by sikh brothers at the present era of time. As we all are aware of today's style of wearing turban as there are various shapes and styles of wearing it. So, being a youth a question arises in my mind that 'which is the actual style and shape of the turban ordained by sikh gurus ?' And are we following that ?

I searched a number of turban training tutorials on web, and mostly all the results were showing the modern style dastaar which is also called 'Thokvi Pagg'. On the contrary,when we take a look at pictures of our sikh gurus they are not wearing the turban which is being wore by today's generation, instead they are wearing round turban.

So don't you think that we are neglecting the shape of turban which our guru sahibs used to wear ?

See the attachment also.

PLEASE DO REPLY. Sat Sri akal... Waheguru ji ka khalsa Waheguru ji ki fateh

please have a look of this picture and think

In terms of historical tradition the mainstream turban is the Nok Pagh worn for centuries, and Saints would wear a Gol pagh. The Dumalla dastaar comes from the Panth Akali Nihangs. Then there is the recent Patiala/Shahi dastar AKA Sinteoo Pagh which the Maharajas used to tie.

Irrelevant question IMHO but this picture shows the various types .

Still seems a fake broadcast. I thought Amitabh incited hate towards Sikhs during 84 Genocide?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=He7JQZpKTi0

http://www.gurmatveechar.com/audios/Katha/01_Puratan_Katha/Sant_Gurbachan_Singh_%28Bhindran_wale%29/Guru_Granth_Sahib_Larivaar_Katha/Volume_14_Ang_1254-1351/032--Sant.Gurbachan.Singh.%28Bhindran.wale%29--Raag.Malaar--Ang-1289.%28Vaar%29.mp3

ANG 1289

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/sikh-battered-worshippers-different-temple-6929673

http://www.gurmatveechar.com/audios/Katha/01_Puratan_Katha/Sant_Gurbachan_Singh_%28Bhindran_wale%29/Bhai_Gurdas_Dian_Varan/Vaar_01/Sant.Gurbachan.Singh--Vaar.01.Pauri.27.Satgur.Nanak.Pargatiya.mp3

spiritual stages are:

Agyaan - Stuck in worldy life and its pleasures.

Dukh/Udasee/Upramta - Brings one closer to God and is free From Maya and Wordly life

Vairaag - Experience spiritual bliss but not permanent

Naam Simran/Bhagti - The inner path to go on.

Dhyaan - Shabad surat marg resultng in control of mind and overcoming ego.

Gyaan - Bibek budh, higher consciousness, brahmgian

Mukti - Ending transmigration and freedom from the physical body. Soul merger with supreme soul

Read Japji Sahib 5 Khands

Does anyone know how they do simran and where they fix there dhyan. The akhand kirtan jatha are taught how to do simran when they are taking amrit. Whats there technique, also are there different techniques as they progress or just one.

In the Adi Sri Guru Granth Sahib it is written jap naam bidhi neshed - meaning there is no technique to do simran.

Prem bhagti and vairaag are not acquired through technique. You have to walk the spiritual path of sincerety and devotional worship

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2595387/Russias-riches-Incredible-Indian-jewels-worth-1-5-million-display-inside-Kremlin-Vladimir-Putin-turn-opening.html

http://www.gurmatveechar.com/audios/Katha/01_Puratan_Katha/Sant_Gurbachan_Singh_%28Bhindran_wale%29/Guru_Granth_Sahib_Larivaar_Katha/Volume_01_Ang_0001-0070/94-Sant.Gurbachan.Singh--Raag.Sri.Raag--Ang.69.mp3

www.gurmatveechar.com/katha/puratan/santgurbachansingh/larivarkatha/folder1/track 94

Yer but Barclays have horrible customer service. I would rather just buy the software then go to Barclays.

Currys usually sells it or alternatives for a reasonable price

http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/index.html

Tried to open an account and got so much grief in trying to open an account tried 3 times and the customer service is horrible. I would say the anti virus software isn't worth the hassle of Barclays. For that kind of customer service a free computer and mobile phone thrown in still wouldn't convince me to go back to them.

You can get Avast for free and Microsoft Security Essentials for free aswell they function fine aswell.

http://www.avast.com/

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/security-essentials-download

http://www.kaspersky.co.in/windows-8/comparison

Pal 07 - veere easy to say...

Trust me you don't know the kind of shyyt iv'e been through. Think of the sakhi of that garreb singh who shared half of one roti with a visitor and still thanked akaal pursh for his great blessings. Ruff times don't always last through time it will go. Ketiia dukh bukh sad maar, eh be daat tere dataar

God will goes not yours, dukh sukh are part of life, relax puts some keertan on and leave it all at the Guru's door

Man up stop whinging like a b**t**

Soti/salotar/dang/danda.

Similar stuff.

Salotar is a purposefully designed weapon. Whereas a soti could be a branch fallen from a tree.

Oh .Ok

Could somebody ask Ustad Niddar Singh whether gatka (which means a show form of shastar vidiya) and shastar vidiya itself have any connection with the south indian martial arts system known as Kalaripayatuu.

Also could you ask him what his thoughts are on Kalaripayatuu. I personally believe what Niddar Singh is teaching is Kalaripayatuu, which itself is the sanatan shastar vidiya of india. Even Americans and many modern martial artist believe kalaripayatu to be the father of all oriental martial arts - kung fu, karate, muay thai etc

http://crimeandjustice.co.uk/

http://tisarpanth.blogspot.co.nz/

Just goes to show a Nihang's mind is as dangerous as his physical abilities.

yes quite right and a technical correction there by jaikara however when it comes to training and learning the vidiya then it comes under slotar and is part of that family anyway.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-26710855

Is astbuja a weapon - or is it something symbolic. It has six edges and a double katar at the peak.

http://blogs.channel4.com/simon-israel-home-affairs/cherry-groce-metropolitan-police-publicly-apologises-shooting-mother/455

https://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/david-cameron-grant-legal-aid-for-the-inquest-into-the-death-of-cherry-groce?alert_id=WScxhxsuYg_EqEBVwdyRc&utm_campaign=52318&utm_medium=email&utm_source=action_alert

I was 11 years old when police burst into my mum's house and shot her in her bedroom in front of me and my sisters. They were looking for my brother, instead they left my mum paralysed from the waist down. After her shooting doctors said she had just 10 years to live, but she lived for 26 years. My mum never gave up.

Her name was Cherry Groce and her shooting sparked the Brixton riots in 1985. To this day no one has been held responsible for what happened to her.

Now we have a chance for justice. An inquest into my mother's death will take place in June. But we've been denied legal aid, without it we can't afford a lawyer to represent us at the inquest and ask questions of the police. That's why I've started a petition calling on Prime Minister David Cameron and Justice Minister Chris Grayling to grant my family legal aid. Please support us.

For almost three decades the police have been allowed to get away with shooting my mum. The officer was acquitted and there has never been a full public investigation into what happened. But since the trial we've discovered new information that was never made public, revealed in a special Channel 4 News report. [1]

Our request for legal aid has so far been refused but the police will use public money to pay for legal advice at the inquest. Legal aid can be granted if there is a wider public interest. The more people that support us - by signing our petition - the greater our chance of getting legal aid.

All we are asking for is the ability to represent ourselves and finally get the truth.

Please sign my petition and help us get the legal aid we need.

My mother deserves justice too.

Thank you,

Lee

Sadly i am one of those guys who always try to look for science in religions...like trying to find reasons for every thing every religion ever path to god..though i knoe this can be my biggest barrier in spiritual progress

"If religion doesn't pass the test of science don't follow it" Dalai Lama