Matheen

Any of you visited Patna Sahib? What's it (and the other historic Gurudware in the area) like?

the link to the sarbloh granth is not working

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When was the last time 'Kshatriya type Sikhs like' stood up and fought against oppression of their brothers, or their own?!

As long as we keep working on ourselves, trying to follow Guru Ji's Sikhshya, then there is hope that things will go right, with Guru Ji's kirpa. As long as we follow our minds desires, we will lack Guru Ji's kirpa and nothing will happen. It only took 1 Pyara of Guru Ji to shake the oppressive Indian Govt' to the core in the late 70s and early 80s. Imagine what a handful can do?

Do you know how to do all that? i.e. can you help?

Awesome. Mastana!

WJKK! WJKF!

Have often heard that bhagti in the month of Maagh is more fruitful than bhagti done in other months i.e. the phal is more (10 times?).

Anyone heard similar and know the reason for this?

Dhanvaad Jio.

Tera ki faida hoiya? sorry jea. Should have recorded it, even on your phone

Keep up the good work Singh. Wish the Suraj Prakash blog was going on too. Got time now so can help.

Cheers Singh

Good stuff Sikha, please post more.

Madness. Shameless monkeys

LOL! womens lib obviously started in Punjab

The word 'loh' or 'loha' generally refers to iron or, these days, steel.

Also to the last point you made it may help if you contact the webmasters directly to ascertain answers to your questions.

Satgyan-pujari, many have contacted the webmasters , even spoken personally, from day one (some before the site went live) but it didn't make any difference, nor were any answers forthcoming.

Said it before, controversy sells.

There are many posts, most of them made way back, by some of Niddar Singh's original students on this site to back up what Chatanga wrote. You'd be surprised at some of the stuff those lot got up to and the consequences their actions / behaviour had on a large number of young people trying to find their way in Sikhi.

Anyway, this topic seems to have run its course but will leave it open for a few more days - until the next time I'm near civilisation.

You guys realize, I go to Niddar Singhs akhara, will I be purged? just like during Stalin's years?

Exorcised maybe, lol.

Nah, the problem is with a few people who take pleasure in twisting facts etc and presenting false as truth. The Shastar Vidiya is actually quite good.

'tis a great tamasha this world - some things are not what they seem.

Matheen ji, do you also have audio recordings of these Baba's saying what you state?

If you don't and MahaSingh ji does, then maybe you should have made such recordings to prove your claims.

Pujari ji, I didn't make any recordings but people like Gyani Gurdev Singh Ji are easy enough to get in touch with in Southall, so things can easily be verified.

As far as general Nihang beliefs vs Niddar Singh's beliefs are concerned, again Baba Surjeet Singh Ji and Baba Joginder Singh Ji can be easily contacted to set things straight. Infact, one of Niddar SIngh Ji's ex-students did post some recordings of Buddha Dal Mahapurkhs that refuted most of the claims made on the sites in question - think it was Kamalroop Singh, but it's been a long time.

If MahaSingh ji has the recordings, then he should put them up.

If you want to know the questions you ask at the end, maybe you should go and see Niddar Singh personally and put them to him.

They are directed towards the webmaster of his sites. I've actually asked Niddar Singh about this before, now I'm 4000 miles away so it's not that easy.

Controversy sells.

P.S. Anyone know who first brought doubts about Sikhi into the minds of Harjit Lakhan, Bini, Kam etc?

I have these audios which have been transcripted, they are not made up. So either Matheen has never met these babas or the babas cant be bothered to play politics and rock the boat.

These audios which have been made will soon be availiable on the net.

By interest Matheen, which of the babas have you met?

There are some quotes attributed to Gyani Gurdev Singh Ji which he says he didn't make. A few others as well - went to the trouble of finding some of the Babas some years ago(when these things mattered to me) during trips to Raqba etc and they said the same. Will make a list when I have the time/inclination, but to be honest, I've realised we have bigger things to worry about.

Do the sites still state that Bhai Niddar Singh is Jathedar of Buddha Dal in the UK and does Niddar Singh still say he has no control over the site content?

Bibi Santosh Kaur Ji (Bhorasahib, Hapur) and Baba Nirmal Singh Ji Rerusahibwale are also in Leicester at the moment, don't have details though can find out their program if anyone wants to meet them.

Singh, just put it on Youtube or something.

nowadays we assume that Aad Guru always had 1430 angs, but this just a recent innovation isnt it?

Could be wrong, but I think the oldest saroop at Sri Hazur Sahib has 1430 Angs.

Dalsingh, it depends if you want to invest (long term) or trade to make quick cash. What're you thinking of?

Congrats to SGPC and Kar Sewa babas.

They have managed to do what Indira and Congress failed at....... to destroy Sikh material history!

Whos the real enemy?????

Not just the SGPC, I think it's an Indian/ pendu thing because the same is being done at Gurudwara Mata Sahib Devan in Nanded that is definitely not run by the SGPC, it's under control of a Nihang Dal. They probably mean well, but the general ethos in India these days is that 'new is better', even if 'new' means bathroom tiles.

The only evidence they always offer is some Baba or other whose guppan were recorded by some n.ang usually sometime in 1999.

The funniest bit is when you meet the people they allegedly recorded and they flat out contradict what is on the site. No such thing as bad publicity.......

Vaah Bhai Sikha! dhanvaad.