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I'm kinda starting to like Adityanath. Knowledgeable, sincere and fierce in his belief.

During his Communal Bill speech in parliament he stood up for Sikhs fiercely. Called 84 " Katal e aam" and made special mention of the Sikh Gurus and their unparalleled contribution.

Mods edit. The guy Adityanath is a Hindu fascist and he is as dangerous as the musla who runs ISIS.

There has been movements before to convert Muslims and Christians into Hindus before and all have been massive failures. Had the RSS or other Hindu fascists been serious about this they had a chance to convert the majority of Muslims just after 1947. But instead the Muslims have been growing by leaps and bounds, both by natural growth and with illegal immigration from Bangladesh.

Oh well our musla and Isai brothers do the same. For centuries. We need to convert Sikhs as well. So far you have gotten a pass because you are a fellow dharmic religion.

Go ahead, try and convert Sikhs. Your forefathers in the Arya Samaj tried and all they got was a few low caste Rahtias and lost most of the Hindu Jat, Saini and Kambohs in Punjab to Sikhism in next few decades. The Sikh parchar backlash was so great that even the Hindu Mahasabha in the 1940s was helping Sikhs to convert the dalits of UP to Sikhism.

Sikhs are always at their best when non-Sikhs have done the first vaar. The RSS infiltration into rural Punjab is just what the Sikhs need to wake them up from their stupor in thinking that the Hindus do not harbour ill intent to their religion.

It is interesting that there have been mass conversions of Hindus to Sikhism in last few decades but none the other way round. First it was the 1988-89 Jatav conversion to Sikhism in Meerut, then in 1992 the Dalits of Kumher, then the Bhayyas in Punjab and lastly the Mushahars of UP and Dalits of Madhya Pradesh.

If any religion is bad then it is Islam. Look at what the followers are doing in Iraq and Syria. The ISIS movement in Islam is Islam without the 'Islam is peace' BS that the west has been hoodwinked into believing.

So one Hindu becomes a Sikh so the Hindu fascist here must now post about a dubious claim by the RSS.

One Muslim convert to another religion is one less potential terrorist but let's be honest here. The RSS offered financial incentives and lied to these people and they have now denied they ever converted.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/day-after-homecoming-muslim-families-deny-embracing-hinduism/article1-1294852.aspx

The RSS are a joke, What else can you expect from a bunch of overweight old men wearing school kid's shorts!

Now compare the conversion of Vikram Singh and the supposed conversion of those Bengal Muslims. Vikram Singh is a Sikh through choice, if anything his life will be more difficult after he become a Sikh as he is now a member of an oppressed minority in India.

Firstly it's very unlikely that any Sikh would become a Hindu although some through ignorance of Sikh teachings will take part in Hindu rituals. Even if one did it's very unlikely that Punjab would burn as you said but you are well known to make ignorant statements so there is nothing new here.

Vikram Singh Khalsa is just following the footsteps of those brave Hindus throughout history who in order to challenge tyranny and injustice joined the Khalsa Panth. The more docile and unadventurous Hindus remained Hindu. You are the progeny of that type of Hindu.

Here is a great video of an interview of Vikram Singh Khalsa the former Hindu youth who threw a shoe at Badal. He has taken Amrit recently.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Dr2aP5gAz8&list=UUeiRdb5QKNbNKUXD9aSe8dw

Surinder Singh's youtube channel has some great interviews and if you want to understand what is happening in Sikh circles in Punjab then this is the channel you should be watching.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeiRdb5QKNbNKUXD9aSe8dw

Whether it's shahrukh tossing the Koran at the feet of Durga or salmon khan giving his sister away in marriage to a Hindu yesterday in a full Hindu ceremony or next month when Saif Ali khan is going to do the same with his sister Soha khan.

This is all part of a Islamist plot! The offspring of the union of Bollywood Hindus and Muslims always tend to inherit the worst traits of both religions. I mean look at Sanjay Dutt! Al Qaeda and IS are intent on making the IQ of Hindustanis lower than it is if that is indeed possible!

The amusing truth is that if ever the Muslims take over India again, people like Fudhustani and Sherni will be the first to get a cut down below and start praying to Mecca. This has been their history throughout the ages.

The United SIkh Movement had extended support to AAP during the last elections so rather than create another party which will divide the anti-Badal and anti-BJP vote, they should have joined AAP and ensured that AAP becomes even more Sikh orientated.

So much for Ranjit Singh's raj being the epitome of Hindu, Muslim, Sikhs unity and brotherhood like claimed by some..

Islam is not a religion that if practicised to the letter of the Quran and Sunnah is conducive to the well being of non-Muslims. Having the baang chanting five times a day that none is worthy of worship that the Muslim god and only Mohammed is a prophet of god does not sit well in a state that was a continuation of the Raj Khalsa of the Misls.

Read Uddardanti to understand how the Sikhs of that time viewed what the ultimate aim of the Khalsa Raj was. But beware as a Hindu fanatic fed of the RSS bukwas of the Khalsa having been created to save the Hindus, it might give you nightmares!

It would be interesting if some of the BJP pygmies attempt to copy the Sikh giants in banning the azan though I doubt they have the guts.

No wonder you are defending Niddar on another thread, Looks like you are one of his students who he refers to as his monkeys. I

The question then is does he turn these Kauda Rakshs and Sajjan Thugs into Saints or drugged up brainwashed idiots?

Go ahead. Only Maharaja Ranjit Singh and the Misls were able to ban the azan (not namaz and loudspeakers not microphones!). Modi doesn't have the guts to ban the azan.

Not a blatant lie - it was done by the agencia! Green Cats!

How does the minorities treat the majority? Bombings? Executions? Throats Cut? Severed heads of cows? Ethnic cleansing and mass murder, forceful conversions, conversions by threat or trickery,

Well, times up!

Feel free to take the muslims though. I figure if you can't do well even in the West then there is something wrong with you not the Hindus.

Same goes for the Dalits.

The easiest thing for the govt to have done was to set up a commission with well known and respected Sikhs and Hindus such General Aurora to enquire into the whole period from 1978-1995. It is because they govt had set up death squads in Punjab and their hands were also not clean of the killings in that period that they did set up a commission.

Abdali sued for peace after the war even left his general with the Marattas to work out a deal. The division of Punjab which the Marattas controlled.

The ferocity of the Marattas even when hungry unnerved Abdali - prepare my horse in case I have to go back to Afghanistan faster than the wind he says in one proclamation.

What ferocity? The Marathas came to the north thinking they were going on a picnic. They had with them hundreds of thousands of pilgrims, Their greed for money had alienated potential allies like the Jats and Rajputs. They allowed themselves to be encircled and cut off with ease. Their commander was willing to take any terms not to fight and was forced to fight by the Peshwa in Poona. All in all it was a disaster for the Marathas. What greater shame could there be for them than that tens of thousands of their women were enslaved by Abdali and over 30,000 of their troops and camp followers who were captured were executed in cold blood after the battle. You write of of the ferocity of the hungry Marathas but thousands of them were captured only to be executed after the battle.

It's his made up history. The Sikhs were already on their way to dominating Punjab. They had disposed of the last traces of Mughal rule in Punjab, the Afghan invasions and the Marathas were just two foreign obstacles on the path to Sikh rule in Punjab.

Here is an account of the Sikhs of Qazi Noor Mohammed who accompanied Abdali on one of his invasions.

Do not call the dogs dogs, because they are lions (and) are courageous like lions in the battlefield. How can a hero, who roars like a lion be called a dog? (Moreover) like lions they spread terror in the field of battle. If you wish to learn the art of war, come face to face with them in the battlefield. They will demonstrate it (art of war) to you in such a way that one and all will shower praise on them

If you wish to learn the science of war, O swordsman, learn from them. They advance at the enemy boldly and come back safely after action. Understand, Singh is their title, a form of address for them. It is not justice to call them dogs; if you do not know Hindustani language, then understand that the word 'Singh' means a lion."Truly, they are lion in battle, and at times of peace, they surpass "Hatim" (in generosity ). When they take the Indian sword in their hands they traverse the country from Hind to Sind. None can stand against them in battle, howsoever strong he may be. When they handle the spear, they shatter the ranks of the enemy. When they raise the heads of their spears towa-rds the sky, they would pierce even through the Caucasus (in the process). When the adjust the strings of the bows, place in them the enemy killing arrows (and) pull the strings to their ears, the body of the enemy begins to shiver with fear. When their battle axes fall upon the armour of their opponents, their armour becomes their coffin.

"The body of every one of them is like a piece of rock and in physical grandeur everyone of them is more than fifty men. It is said that Behram Gore killed wild asses and lions. But if he were to come face to face with them even he would bow before them (Singhs). Besides usual arms, they take their guns in hand (and) come into the field of action jumping (and) roaring like lions and raise slogans. They tear asunder the chests of many and shed blood of several (of their enemy) in the dust. You say that musket is a weapon of ancient times, it appears to be a creation of these dpgs rather than Socrates. Who else than these (dogs) can be adept in the use of muskets. They do not bother (even if) there are innumerable muskets. To the right and the left, in front and towards the back, they go on operating hundreds of muskets angrily and regularly."

If you do not believe in what I say, you may enquire of the brave swordsmen who would tell you more than myself and would praise them for their fighting. This bears witness to (my statement) that they faced thirty thousand heroes in the battlefield. If their armies take to flight, it is a war tactics of theirs. They resort to this deception in order to make the angry army grow bold and run in their pursuit. When they find them separated from the main body and away from help and reinforcement, they at once turn back and fight more ferociously (literal translation - they set fire even to water).

"Did you not see that while fighting the Pathans, they took to flight which was deceptive. A world famous wrestler wielding high esteem and respect alight-ed from his horse and showed his great style as if he were Tuhmatan ( a great warrior of Iran). O valiant fighter, do justice to their (act of ) war. One of their armies invaded Multan and put the city to plunder and devastation and killed many of its inhabitants and carried away an immense booty. I am not sufficiently strong in mind to express what the dogs did there. But as God willed it, each of us has to submit to His Will."

Besides their fighting, listen to one more thing in which they excell all other warriors. They never kill a coward who is running away from the battlefield. They do not rob a woman of her wealth or ornaments whether she is rich or a servant ("Kaneez"). There is no adultry among these dogs, nor are they mischieveous people. A woman, whether young or old, they call a "Burhi". The word Burhi, means in Indian language, an old lady. There is no thief amongst these dogs, nor is there amongst them any mean people. They do not keep company with adulters and house thiefs though all their acts may not be commendable."

If you are not acquainted with their religion, I tell you that the Sikhs are the disciples of the Guru - that glorious Guru lived at Chak (Amritsar). The ways and manners of these people were laid down by Nanak who showed these Sikhs a separate path. He was succeeded by Guru Gobind Singh from whom they received the title of Singh. They are not part of the Hindus, who have a separate religion of their own. "Now that you have familiarised yourself with the behaviour of the Sikhs, you may also know something about their country. They have divided the Punjab amongst themselves and have bestowed it upon every young and old.

Is there anything similar from the Afghans regarding the prowess of the Punjabi Hindus or the Marathas?

Where are the brave sikhs in this battle?

The Battle of Peshawar took place in on 8 May 1758 between Maratha Empire and the Durrani Empire. The Marathas were victorious in the battle and Peshawar was captured. Before that, the fort of Peshawar was being guarded by Durrani troops under Timur Shah Durrani and Jahan Khan. After being defeated by the army of Marathas, they managed to escape the fort and fled to Afghanistan. The victory in this battle is considered a great success for Marathas as now their rule had extended to the border of Afghanistan, located 2000 km far from their capital Pune.

Aftermath[edit]

In Punjab, North-West Frontier Province and Kashmir, the Marathas were now major players.^[2][3][4]Malhar Rao Holkar, the commander-in-chief of Maratha forces remained in Peshawar for three months after which he retired to Pune giving the control to Tukoji Rao Holkar with 10,000 Maratha troops to guard the fort of Peshawar from Afghans.^[5] However, they were not enough to tackle the larger forces of Durrani who re-captured the city in 1759.

What kind of idiot garrisons Peshawar with ten thousand troops when he knows that Abdali will be back to reclaim it the next year? There was no effort to retain control of Punjab otherwise the massacre of the Marathas would have been in Peshawar rather than in Panipat a few years later.

Your Bagel Singh arrived in Delhi on the backs of the Marattas. and asked for permanent garrisons in Punjab to protect you against the moslems.

Abdali walked right through Punjab without any resistance from the khalsa, the only resistance was from a small maratta garrison in lahore and panipat, and later on the Nagas in Mathura.

Stop regurgitating your wet dream of Hindu domination on here. What a pathetic little ma you are, you need some south Indian darkies to give you some pride in your history! If the Marathas were so powerful why couldn't they hole the Punjab for more than a few months? The Sikhs never asked for Maratha help, it was the other way around as everyone from Jats, Rajputs and the Marathas would ask for Sikh help against each other.

The guy was a class A idiot. Joined the same religion whose adherents then cut his throat. His mother appeared on an appeal video with a hijab on. This is what you get for appeasing the muzzies.

Yeah, I've seen it.

If you cant give money, they are asking for scrap metal.

They are also holding a protha making contest at their next class and a raffle.

£2.50 for a ticket

3 Tickets for £5.00

1st prize is an Aloo wala protha.

2nd prize, a whole cauliflower

3rd prize, a bag of Asali Aatta

That's funny man, scrap metal! I can imagine his murakh students rummaging through some skips to get them scrap metal to keep alive his made up martial art!

If shouting abuse is a crime that can get you shot then maybe we would have seen hundreds of the monkeys from the Shiv Sena shot that day. I was in Jagroan that day and the amount of fear among the Hindus was palpable. Virtually all had closed their shops and the police had warned people against travelling. For the Hindus, if your life revolves around hating the Sikhs, hating your own language because the Sikhs love the same language and hating the state that you live in then even a little disturbance causes you to panic. I remember a Punjabi Hindu guy in his late 40s who would have lived through the liberation struggle asking 'Is Khalistan coming' and this just based on a few hundred Sikh demonstrators protesting the death sentence. The atmosphere in Punjab is changing, just as the rest of the country is becoming a Hindu state, the Sikhs are waking up to what this means for Sikhs.

That's all very tame compared to what even hijab wearing women get in Egypt.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZ2XzdRHFvk

How about don't walk around a kala neighbourhood on your own. If anything the video shows that the stereotype of kalay as oversexed is probably true!

While SAS is working in countering this issue, the Hindus in the UK don't seem to be doing anything to protect their girls or even their boys from the actions of the Islamic fanatics. While Sikhs are well aware of the activities of Islamic fanatics trying to convert their sons and daughters the Hindus are just asleep to the exact same thing happening in their communities. Recently a Hindu convert to Islam has fled the UK to Syria after being released on bail for a terrorism offence and one of the most dangerous terrorists to be convicted in the UK for a terror plot is also a former Hindu.

For people like Sherni posting items about the awareness campaigns by Sikhs is proof of a problem rather than proof of the Sikhs taking positive action against this problem. Now let's ask where is the Hindu awareness campaign?