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  1. My good friend Singho has recently been promoting Signeh marriage as some kind of solution for the west and something that does away with adultery and immoral living. Here is a article I found by Dinesh D'Souza who is an intellectual and well as an avid defender of Islam.

    Temporary Marriage In Iran

    Dinesh D'Souza

    I wasn't in the audience at Columbia, so I didn't get to pose a question to Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. I would have guessed that he is pretty capable of answering questions about the Holocaust ("at least we didn't do it") and Iran's nuclear aspirations ("entirely peaceful").

    Even his stated goal of wiping Israel off the map doesn't break the register on my surprise-o-meter. Nor would I be entirely astonished if there are many leaders in Israel who'd like to see today's Iran wiped off the map.

    I would have liked to ask Ahmadinejad about the Shia practice of sigheh (in Farsi) or muta (in Arabic). This is the practice, widespread in Iran, of "temporary marriage." Such marriages are forbidden in Sunni Islam but they are permitted in Shia Islam.

    The origin of temporary marriage is in the early days of Islam, when warriors would go to faraway battles and not return home for several months or even years. During this period, they were permitted to enter into temporary marriages which could be dissolved after an agreed-upon period by the man simply proclaiming the end of the arrangement.

    Since Islam allows polygamy up to four wives, this was not considered a radical departure from the rules of the Koran.

    Whatever you think of the original arrangement, it is mightily abused today in Iran. Mullahs who are traveling on pilgrimages routinely take temporary wives, sometimes for a week, sometimes for a day, sometimes for a few hours. In the West we call this prostitution.

    In Iran it is hallowed by the name of sigheh and it has the full sanction of the law. One can only imagine the plight of poor women in Iran who are driven by necessity to become de facto prostitutes. I'm sure there are some at the ACLU and on the left who would say the women are noble "sex workers" whose only deprivation is that they are not paid the minimum wage. They are, after all, consenting adults. But anyone who believes in female dignity and family values has to consider sigheh a complete scandal.I'm curious how a fellow like Ahmadinejad, who likes to portray himself as a defender of human dignity and of the Muslim family, would respond to what his mullah friends are doing on a regular basis. These abuses of power--financial, political, sexual--are more likely to discredit and ultimately bring down the regime of the mullahs than all the "tough questions" about nuclear weapons and the Holocaust.

    I would like to debate this issue with Singho as far from being the answer to any society's problem with prostitution, Muta is a form of prostitution legalised through the abuse of marriage!

  2. w-bol please try to understand that freedom does exist in Iran. Iran is a free country. In fact freedom does not exist in the Western countries that you love so much. Iran is the one and only place where the law and tradition of the Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) - who always acted with honour toward women - is observed in full. Iran formally recognises the ways of the Prophet (PBUH). I have already mentioned to you the institution of sigheh, which affords couples legal, financial and health protections for the duration of their unions. This is but one of many examples of the ways in which the dignity and honour of the human being is being preserved by the Islamic Republic of Iran which formally enshrines the way of life prescribed by the Prophet (PBUH).

    Indeed, the teachings of the Prophet (PBUH), and his laws, are for the benefit of all mankind including yourself. You would do well to learn more about the life of the Prophet (PBUH), and to try to observe some of his teachings yourself, concerning the way in which women are to be regarded and treated. Have some respect please.. the teachings of the Prophet (PBUH) , who lived a faultless existence, exist for your benefit, so learn them and don't criticise them. The Iranian regime exists to advance the cause of the Prophet, for the greater benefit of people such as yourself who know no better than to indulge all manner of licentiousness in the name of 'freedom' which is no 'freedom' but rather a fraud that turns the free man into a slave and the human being into a depraved animal. Stop and consider the Holy Qu'ran, before you respond to this. Perhaps this is the time for you to read it for yourself..

    So, please keep your opinions in perspective. We have already covered the ground of the 16-year old girl who was hanged, and your memory must be very short for this is the third time I am mentioning it. As Javanmard explained before you had him banned, the decision to hang this girl was reviewed both politically and judicially in a process instigated by Shirin Ebadi, a prominent human rights lawyer in Iran himself! So please stop your lies about the possibility of being persecuted for writing bad things about Iran, if you live in Iran. Shirin Ebadi has been a vocal advocate of human rights and is a fierce critic of the maverick judge who sentenced the girl.

    Sorry bruv but Mohammed's law aren't applicable to me and I wouldn't want to live under them. You may choose to live under them and that is your choice but please do not try and make they applicable to us just because the Guru Granth Sahib doesn't have a verse about how to deal with prostitution. It's a book of spiritual effort aimed as a guide to those who want to unite with the infinite. Its not a book of do and don'ts and certainly not like the Hadiths which seems to have been written by and I;m sure you will allow me to be blunt by someone with a obsessive compulsive disorder especailly the rules of going for a dump and what verse to use when entering and exiting the bog! Yes, Islam has one over on Sikhi because the Gurus and none of their followers sat down and thought what would the Sikhs in future generations be worried about.. spiritual effort towards the ultimate goal of humanity or what applicable legislation should be used against Belle De Jour down the road!

  3. Kavita, don't listen to that idiot. What the ladies are wearing in the second picture, NOT the first, is a 'veil' or a 'hijab'. In Iran you do NOT have to have that green suit with face and body covering.

    The ladies in the second picture are fighting FOR their right to wear hijab. It is their culture and belief. Iran will protect their right to wear the hijab.

    I applaud those who fight for the right to practice their belief. In a similar vein can I expect you to support the right of non-Muslims such as Jew, Christians, Hindus and Sikhs to be able to build their respective places of worship in Saudi Arabia. Perhaps even allows them to carry the Torah, Bible or a Gutka in their hands without it being confiscated?

    I mean a person would be a shameless hypocrite to expect rights in another persons country that he would not give to those people in his own country.. am I right?

  4. Veer Ji is you watch the movie correctly they clearly say that her execution and the verdict wer not legal. You make it look as if all people who have sex before marriage in Iran would be hanged and that's a lie. If Iran is such a dictatorship why is Shirin Ebadi still allowed to fight for women's rights?

    The reason that Shirin Ebadi is tolerated is because she is working within the system. She understands the restrictions that Islam has placed on her and she is working within the Islamic system to gain what little human rights women have.

    The curious thing is that the majority of Iranians that I have met are extremely anti-Islam. The more intellectual have totally moved away from Islam are they regard Iranian culture as far superior to the Islamic culture imposed by the Arabs. Quite a few of the apostate Muslim organisations that have been formed in the West are headed mainly by Iranians although they include apostate Muslims from all backgrounds. Iran may have had a glorious past but that was ended when the Arabs defeated the Persians in the 7th century. After that although the Iranian intellect was used to further the Islamic agenda and later the Shia philosophy, Iranian have never reached the zenith they did before Islam and they never will, well maybe if they rid themselves of Islam.

    The rosy image of Islam being painted here by Singho (Curious name for a Shia Muslim) is totally at odds to what is happening in Iran. The Majority of people hate the Mullahs and their theocratic rule.

    Please note Singho that Singh is not a farsi word. It comes from the sanskrit Sinh meaning Lion. Don't you just love this 'everything was invented in Iran' reminds of that guy in goodness gracious me who claims that everything and everyone is an Indian. I wonder when the Singho will claim that Mohammed was a Persian or maybe he had a Persian grandmother or something like that, certainly enough for if Mohammed was alive today he would be eligible to play for the Iranian national team!

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