Pheena

one word is interpreted beautifully by thousand perceptions unfolding

^ you are beautiful...

Rehit Piyari Muj Ko, Sikh Piyara Nahi.

It is a Rehitnama by Bhai Desa Singh ji.

Here is an english translation i found on the net.

"I love the Sikh Rehit; the Sikh himself is not my beloved.

The one who lives the Sikh lifestyle is my Sikh; he is my master and I am his disciple.

Without the Rehit no one can be a Sikh; without the Rehit one will face difficulties at all times.

Without the Rehit he cannot be comfortable at all; that is why a Sikh should be committed to the Rehit."

its ~140MB

http://www.khalis.net/SikhAwareness/Video/...e%20Mystery.avi

UPDATE

I would like to update everyone on this shameful story of this shameless bride. After doing investigative work by asking around relatives and friends of this bride. Apparently, this bride had a boy friend in India. When the girl got a marriage proposal from a Canadian guy, she along with her Indian boyfriend made a plan together that she would marry the Canadian guy. Later as I have mentioned in my first post, as soon as she came to Canada she ran away from her husband.

To justify her running away, she began to lie to everyone that she was beaten up by her inlaws. But all of her relatives (which includes me!) knew the reality of her relationship with a guy in India. We all knew that it was also a lie because of the fact that her inlaws were known to be very nice and kind hearted people who are well off in Canada. She recently got married this Sunday at Maltan Gurdwara with her boy friend who came to Canada thanks to her.

Her parents are perfectly fine with her disgraceful behavior, which otherwise would bring shame to a family. But I guess things are changing very fast in India where Punjabi morality and ethics mean very little.

I encourage others here to also share their views on this issue. It is a very serious issue. If possible share any similar stories you have of fraud brides and grooms from India.

interesting we had exactly the opposite thing happen when a guy from my village married a girl in canada only to leave her once he got there. He had a girlfriend who was already in Canada. Such a disgrace that people do not give 2 shits about the girl/guy who they are leaving.

Discover Channel did a show on the Gnostic Scrolls...i'll see if the size isn't too big, i'll upload it.

This was brought up a while back by Hari.

http://www.sikhawareness.com/sikhawareness...opic.php?t=6095

If its about as extreme as Osho gets in his words, then i think i'll be ok...regardless don't worry, i won't blame you for screwing up my mind..

what does the book have in it that warrents such caution?

what book 'heaven in mekhane' ji? care to share it with us lost souls .

dude you rock...

i have a question, when was gold placed upon the darbar sahib. I don't think when the 5th Guru built it there was Gold placed upon it? Was it Raja Ranjit Singh?

blockages are in everyone, it is throught bhagti as you stated that these blockages are opened and our energy flows freely through the chakras. As for the headaches, i don't think they are a cause of concern given that you have a Master whom can give you proper guidence through such events.

In Tibet they have tried for thousands of years to preserve the bodies in which some extraordinary things happened. They have preserved such bodies as an experimentation. Because such events do not happen again and again, and do not happen so easily. After thousands of years, once in a while such things happen. For instance, someone's third eye opened and along with it, it broke a hole in the bone where the third eye exists. Such an event takes place sometimes once in hundreds of thousands of years. The third eye opens in so many people but this hole does not happen to everybody. When this hole happens, the reason behind it is that in that case the third eye has opened with tremendous force. Such skulls or such a body is then preserved by them.

wow..........................................................

Thats what i thought.

If i can just ask :

But why is it looked as a sin in todays Society ?

But again am sure most parents wouldnt be happy with their daughter or son marrying a non sikh ?.

But if its not a sin, then should they have any objections ?

Would you agree for your son / daughter to marry a non sikh ?

Marrying out of race/religion/caste is not a Sin, rather a matter of convienience from both a Social and Religious standpoint.

im curious as to what language is the word Si from where it is translated to head or mind? is Si short for Sees

Interesting interpetation though.

As far as i am aware, the Simran is derived form the word Simurn which translates to 'remember'. However the word Simran has also been used synanomously to Jap.

Sometimes there would be a rush of noisy visitors and the Silence of the monastery would be shattered.

This would upset the disciples; not the Master,

who seemed just as content with the noise as with the Silence.

To his protesting disciples he said one day,

"Silence is not the absence of sound, but the absence of self."

~ Adyashanti

Neo do you have the video? if so why don't u just upload it to the khalis.net/SikhAwareness/ site. how big is it?

i might have to read that few times more to fully grasp it. thanks.

So if it is true that I (awareness) surround the space around the body and also within it, then why is it that when i close my eyes i feel i am trapped within this body? Is this just conditioning or perhaps with deeper meditation you begin to break this 'feeling' of being only within.

so easy, yet it seems miles away...

so i got a question for you bro,,.....where are you in the physical body?

where is the floating awareness, the conciousness which is seperate from all that which rises and falls?

Maybe becoming a schizophrenic is essential for spiritual growth? Being a schzophrenic is only considered an illness, in the world we live in now. We need to be aware that our ideaologies are conditioned by the capitalistic society we live in. Issues like mental illness have been marginalised and pushed outside of acceptable social norms. Whereas in socities not influenced by western post enlightenment values, this is not the case. Certain spiritual paths or ways are not acceptable to western society because they do not fit into social norms. Now i have a problem with modern "spirituality" books that repackage elements of certain religious traditions and present them to western audiences as cures for the "materialism" of the west. But what they choose to include are aspects of those traditions that, comply with the capitalistic machine to ensure that an individual is a productive unit. That is why with me non-sikh "spiritual" books have to be authentic i.e. written within a tradition, it is also important for me to understand the environment in which the text was written to gain a better appreciation of it. Most laypeople cannot be bothered to do this, they want a quick fix, they want consumables, they want comfort. It is ironic that the economic environment we live in has created this need for spirituality, and is itself repackaging spirituality, as a means to keep the worker units productive.

Sorry to go off on a tangent, but just to sum up, people please be aware of the world we live in, it is immensly deceptive it is like another maya already on top of the other maya, so very difficult to stay on the true path.

I don't have much to comment on you above thoughts...but i was simply pointing towards Observing the Mind...and no imo you do not become a Schizo because you are not dividing your mind by observing with one part and the other being the observer. You are stepping back from thought/mind altogether. As for this method being westernized, i do not believe that to be such. Please take a look at Vipassana.

http://www.dhamma.org/vipassan.htm

If an individual has no lust, wouldn't that make it a bit difficult to "get it up" Sorry to be so crude, but as sikhs we are meant to live as householders, so part of household life is the art of pleasing your wife, if you have no lust how can you satisfy the needs of your wife.

You do not need to light your house on fire to keep warm...just a spark is necessary and a spark that is well under control. If you have such confidence in your mind that it will not get out of hand then there are no worries. If it is irrelivent to you if you have sex or not, then no worries, just be cautious that it does not become a necessity. But is such the condition of average joe? I think not. Give the mind an inch, it'll take a mile. There was a small story of Raja Janak who was engaged in kaam while a Saint came by to request his presence..im not too sure of the entire story...perhaps Neo can post it, last i remember it was he who posted it.

Observing the feeling in a detached manner, as one poster commented, seems to me as a schizophrenic way of dealing with lust. Because you are splitting your mind into two, at first, careful you don't become a schizo if you take this option.

I take it you never experienced your feelings without being attached to them. Perhaps you should and then conclude if it makes you a schizo or not. I certainly feel fine and as do many other who i've talked to. You are not emotions that rise and fall. To be in constant awareness of yourself and of the mind as not you is not a illness rather it is something worth experiencing and perhaps even essential in growing spritually detached from the mind.

I like sikhers post, why complicate matters, every man likes a nice fat ass, why fight it. A womens arse is made by God, so by lusting after it you are doing pooja to it, which is indirectly pooja to god. Lust is a worship to him who can do anything, he can make you lust after anything, and not lust after everything.

You are playing with fire here. Although your intentions are good to percieve the Godliness in every act, but caution must be used. Even the art of Tantra envokes 'controlled' methods. you must be carefull when you relax the leash of the mind...it has far more experience in deception than we think. Without a proper guide such word could cause more harm than good.

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nice

try a few kundalini yoga saadhnas

more info please :!:

everywhere i go i see women dressed in tight jeans, short skirts, tight tops, low cut tops etc.

Girlls in the UK always look stunning aswel and i cant control maself

everytime i see a girls, i think 'DAM, look at that, i want sum!'

its a typical asian attitude but i did managem to stop it for a while but now its back.

ne1 else feel like this?

There are many methods that help you control (not surpress) and transform our lustful energy and desires. Knowledge is power, know what Sex is, Know what Sexuality is, Know what Lust is. Know where they arise from, what triggers them, disect your thoughts, your feelings, observe them with a keen eye and if you observe them correctly as HeyDudesWassup said you will obliterate the thought-tide of your lustfulness. If it arises again and most likely it will, do not lose your patience. Do not fear it because it is nothing but our own creation. Do not blame others for, not the females you see walking, not anyone. No one is to blame for our thoughts but our ownsleves. That does not mean feel guilty about it. It means do not place the responsibilty of your mind upon others that it is 'their' fault and your are powerless about it.

Women are God's creatoin as are you, as is their beauty, their figure...learn to tranform you sight with such thoughts...do not look to posses them, instead appreciate them for their beauty and more so appreciate the one who created them. Redefine your thoughts. Do you appreciate the beauty of a flower only after you plucked it from its branch? Know that once you pluck the flower from its branch, soon it will die. Similar is our lust, the desire to posses the others body, to use it for our own satisfaction...soon the infatuation of physical attraction will fade and you will find yourself looking for another women to satisfy yourself. It is a cycle that will not stop, unless you learn to redirect your mind and thoughts. Our plucking of the flower is similar to wanting to posses them physically. See them for their beauty and appreaciate the creator for such beauty. Let every beauty remind your of his work. It is up to you how you interpret what you see.

Aside fomr what HeyDude suggest, also Learn to observe your breathing, know that it is thought that arises first then that thought brings upon a change in our breathing and the breathing in turn creates a reaction in our body. The breathing is but a bridge between thoughts and our physical body. Observe your breathing and you will find that thoughts without the aid of breathing can not go far and soon it will fade away. You can also do Japa in your breathing that will help better concetrate your mind on your breathing.

Also As you walk keep your sight downwards as you continue you Simran. Not so much taht you can't see what is in front of you, but inorder for you to redirect your mind, you must physically restrain your sight from wandering around. Keep fast to your Simran and the thought will fade....remember do not think that you have no one to assist you. If you are Honest in your desire to control you lustful thoughts, then the Guru is there to guide you always. Be aware of when the mind suggest into lust, you will have a choice. Do not create hatred or animosity against your mind...instead learn to be patient and compassioante towards it. It is like your secretary, if you do not wish to speak to it then pay no attention to it, instead smile at the mind and be loving towards it knowing you know what must be done to acheive your task.

sorry i didn't realize how long this thing got.

"Thoughts are friends, not enemies. They're just "what is." They appear. They're innocent. We're not doing them. They're not personal. They're like the breeze or the leaves on the trees or the raindrops falling. Thoughts arise like that, and we can make friends with them. Would you argue with a raindrop? Raindrops aren't personal, and neither are thoughts. It's the meaning you attach to those thoughts that you think is personal. Inquire. Meet them with understanding. Once a painful concept is met with understanding, the next time it appears you may find it interesting. The next time it appears, you may find it funny. The next time you may not even notice it. There will be no attachment. I meet thoughts the way I would meet my children. I met them with love, gentleness, and a quiet understanding. I inquire."

Byron Katie

Few other options. If you are listening to Kirtan, then become your ears, let the sound of kirtan flow within you without filter. Relax (not so much that you slouch or become sleepy, relax the body, so the muscles are not tightened) and Feel the emotion within the sound. If you are singing along, then listen to 'your' voice when you sing along.

Also understand that Thought by itself is nothing but a wave that rises and falls, it is YOU that gives fuel to the thought that it becomes a Tsunami. Seperate yourself from the thought and simply observe it without interference regardless of what the content of the thought is. If it arises then let it arise, but stay alert as not to influence it in any way. Observe it, once the thought fades away, return to your Jap/Kirtan etc.

Also a small prayer asking for help from your Guru before sitting down to do Jap/Kirtan always helps.