jaikaara

its about business he has to show what sells...Sikhs overall do not buy his shit..so now he has to try caste and community ..he is someone to be never taken seriously

1 hour ago, dalsingh101 said:

Next time you want to test a sant, wait till they go to the loo (being careful to note that they are doing a number two and not a number one), and quickly enter the lavatory as soon as they leave. Then breathe in deeply through the nose - your question will be answered.....

 

lol!!

hahahahahaha....i am wondering if i eat a lot of elaichi will my stools smell of elaichi...:)

18 hours ago, paapiman said:

There is a book by Bhai Guriqbal Singh jee, on Sri Sukhmani Sahib jee. You can go through it, if you get time. Maybe, you might find something interesting in it.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

http://www.5abigurbani.com/2011/08/sri-sukhmani-sahib-ji-diyan-visheshtaian-bhai-guriqbal-singh-ji-gurdwara-mata-kaulan.html

Yaar i dont think it is something not okay if you are visiting his grave. You arent praying to him , you have had attachment so you are just paying your respect . No big deal about it .

 

Naam ras sometimes makes you emotional..sometimes the energies that rise make the saadhak feel so. It is not necessary that everytime one may feel it ..

9 minutes ago, BhagatSingh said:

I think Baba Nand Singh ji was trying to convey that Baba Nanak was Hari-swaroop.

I don't think he was saying that he didn't have sex.

Because sometimes people need to hear these stories so that they become more attached to the characters in the story, in this case it is the Gurus.

Other hindus do this as well. It's a general trend in india to make everything appear miraculous and extraordinary.

However there is a trap here that we need to be careful of.

In focusing on the extra-ordinary, one might become attached to the the extra-ordinary and miss the very ordinary hukam of waheguru that is happening in the here and now.

Yes you are right ..yaar this is too much of an inquisitive nature...right from morning breakfast to peeing and potting ..people want answers for everything ..the physical form isnt the focus..the focus is the bachans from where we derive what we would call knowledge.

Just now, paapiman said:

Maybe he was answering someone's question or clarifying an incorrect statement, regarding Satguru jee. 

 

Bhul chuk maaf

I dont know how to react to this ...i dont question the awastha of the Sant, i know its a common answer in Indic religions. I feel it is absurd to question private lives of the people we look to and then just camouflage it with some divine looking answers.

Just now, paapiman said:

Baba jee was a Gurmukh Brahamgyani. 

 

Bhul chuk maaf

So ? why was He discussing physical relationships ? I dont understand what does Brahmgyan have to do with how did the wives of Gurus become pregnant.

What i feel is we are only trying to hide our 'guilt' about sex and just giving some weird explanations to cover it .

25 minutes ago, paapiman said:

Bro, if there was no evidence present, then the story would have been different. We have evidence in the form of Baba Nand Singh jee's bachan.

There is another sakhi, related to one of the sons of Sri Satguru jee (Third Master). Most likely, it is recorded in a historical granth too. It deals with procreation, without physical sexual activity. Baba jee was able to impregnate his wife, using his vision power. 

 

Bhul chuk maaf

Ik gal dass ..how did Baba Nand singh ji know ?

Just now, paapiman said:

Gurparsaad, will look into this issue and report back.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

Remember one thing veera ..acceptance is one big issue..now when it came to Sri Krishan's story you accepted that He engaged in sexual acts but when it came to the Guru's you were reluctant . You arent ready to accept that as a human it is possible for the Gurus to engage in procreative processes. But we should keep it in mind that there would be someone who will have utmost faith and his feelings could be hurt with such statements.

7 minutes ago, paapiman said:

The story is accepted by Taksaal brother. Most likely, it was narrated by Gyani Inderjit Singh jee Raqbewale too. Gurparsaad, will try to post the audio reference, if found.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

Yes veera ..but is there any research to prove this ? Kathaavachaks recite traditional Kathas and proving this is not their view.

Now for example in Shastar Naam Maala Guru Maharaj says " Narsingh Bauddha Tuhi, Tuhi Jagat ko Saar " what does this prove? The belief that Buddha was an Avatar was existing in Guru Maharaj's time ..the Neo Buddhists challenge this statement also mentioned by Hindus  . However as a poet was it Guru Maharaj's interest to check the genealogical sources of Buddha ? Guru Maharaj composed as according to the belief then.

12 minutes ago, paapiman said:

His mother was either a virgin or a widow. She got a boon (of Putarvanti) from Srimaan Swami Ramanand jee Maharaaj. She abandoned Bhagat jee, due to fear of society. He was later adopted by Muslim parents. Bhagat jee's mother was of Brahmin ancestry.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

All this is just created to satisfy caste concious minds that Bhagat Kabir ji was of hindu origin.

On 4/16/2016 at 3:50 PM, samurai said:

bruva brace yourself.lol..

basically its goats feet and ankle which you boil. becomes a soup which you drink.this takes a good 12-16 hours of boiling...its very 'garm'..very good for joints..i know cos some desi told me as ive broken ankle/shoulder/hand aswell as having knee pains.. and he suggested this...it puts 'grease' in your joints...better in winter as its very garm but ive had it in summer too...in summer its like a pre-sup man..

Trotters soup ! yummyyyy..i love it too....Dally veera ..this is super good for the bones , chest and otherwise. Its glutenous ..i cook it with a pakistani recipe sometimes ..the paki punjabis love it so they are experts with it ..in Maharashtra we call it Paaye ka soup..paaye and guddi which is the knees are sauted in ginger garlic and then boiled ..some sauted flour can be added for thick consistency.

http://www.sanjeevkapoor.com/Recipe/Paya-Shorba.html
 

This is our dakkhani style recipe ...enjoy it guys !

Just now, paapiman said:

Bro, it is possible for a fool to take Gurbani in the wrong direction too. We should discuss these concepts, without looking down upon the physical act of procreation. No one should demonize legitimate sex. 

 

Bhul chuk maaf

Legitimate and illegitimate ...definations have changed with time .in the 90s a live in relationship was not taken in a good way however now its accepted

Just now, paapiman said:

Paaji, miraculous births are common in Hindu/Sikh history.

Examples - Sri Ganesh jee, Shromani Bhagat Baba Kabeer jee Maharaaj, etc.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

Mere veer..these statements get into wrong directions ..we are actually demonizing sex as an act.

2 hours ago, paapiman said:

Paaji, Satguru Sri Guru Nanak Dev jee Maharaaj never engaged in any physical sexual act. The birth of his two sons

Malko now this is like opening a can of worms ..lets keep things as human as possible ..

And dont think i am a Jatt hater ..majority of my friends are Jatts , i dont spare even Khatris if they come up with this caste hatred .

I feel this identity may perhaps not go , what should go is hatred .

2 minutes ago, Koi said:

Why should they declare their caste? Are you looking for a rishta for them?

HAHAHAHAHAHA !

15 hours ago, Guest guest said:

the comparison was your point, not mine.  you said they did 'worse than the brahmins'.

now your reasoning has failed you turned this nonesense^.  

still waiting for Paapiman to declare his caste, and you would you like to also Jaikarra.

There you go ! brains buried in the deep muck of caste ...its a hopeless case

By all means the acts of your types are 'worse than brahmins'.

6 hours ago, Guest Gurdip Singh said:

If you want to be cured of any black magic or possessions then please go to the Babab Vadbhag Singh Ji Gurdwarad in Coventry, it's on Bayton Road, look it up on the internet, it has its own website. I have been going there for 8 years and have seen miracles been performed, I too was healed by that Gurdwara and even visited the Dera Saab in Indian. The Coventry Gurdwara do not charge for their services ie curing those who are possessed or who have had black magic done. I am a British Sikh guy, I am degree educated and did not believe in all of this until I experienced it. Baba Vadbhag Singh Ji was blessed by the 10 Guru's and he took Amrit. I promise that you will be healed by going to the Gurdwara in Coventry, their contact number is 024 7664 4401. Go there, it will be the best thing you ever did.

Veera can you share your experience , if you dont mind for the betterment of the Sangat here. We would have some imputs about a subject which is of the dark sciences or Occult .

15 hours ago, Guest guest said:

Jaikaaraa, what opportunistic exageration.  You can go look/study the treatment of so called 'untouchables' etc in places outside of Panjab.  Panjab treatment was better by miles.

ohh so you are doing a favor by giving 'better' treatment ? Jaan nai liti ji siraf hathha paira kaate ..waah ji keep it up ! you will really do wonders with such thinking .

Opportunistic exaggeration? Are you even worth any opportunity? 

Khanda tattoo...Bhindranwale stickers ..and all the shitty language as much as possible ..b'chaud and m'chaud..and just keep claiming 200 times ..Assi Jatt aa ji..even to buy mooli pyaaj from the market..

Do you think you are even worth any opportunity ? An uncouth , rude mindset is just worthy of a mental asylum and has no place in civilized society.

3 hours ago, Guest Banta Singh said:

Jatts are a separate tribe. In ancient times they had their own system of leadership called the panchayat. They never submitted to Brahmanical rule unlike others in the Indian subcontinent.

Anyway you can argue otherwise and type on your keyboard till your fingers go numb, it won't change the fact that Jatts don't subscribe to your classification of them. Go try getting your Brahmin/Khatri son or daughter married to theirs and you're see first hand what they think of your 'high' caste. So it doesn't really matter what you think of them. They don't need your validation of them to feel secure of themselves.

Jatts are arguably the most successful among Sikhs. Jatts are one of the first few to embrace Sikhism. Jatts via Maharaja Ranjit Singh and the 13 Jatt misls were the first power in the Indian subcontinent to actually beat invaders and created a territory right up to Afghanistan.

Sikh Jatts have a sense of identity and unity that other castes in Punjab don't seem to exhibit.  

 

See there is always 2 sides of a coin, i do agree that Jatts are independent of brahmanical influence however the lop side is they did worst than what brahmins did and are still doing with the Mazhbis..any caste violence cases you take up the Jatts are involved...the Jatts are not of one single tribe ..our gotra is Bhatti and that is found amongst Jatts too. My friend is a Rathaur Jatt ..Rathaurs are Rajput origin too. ..i admire their pride but do not admire their arrogance. One can be good in one thing and the other will be good in something else.

Naa Hum channgge na bura koi....

yes..