jaikaara

The cosmetic companies are foolish ..they are evil..beauty is inside

Not until all of you agree to Satkirin ..We are all evil lusty men you know

Satkirin ..i knew this would end here...guys understand one thing ..this is a lesson for all of us ..today all of us are trying to keep Satkirin pleased as she is a white convert .at every step she has a pre determined argument of judging the Bani of the Gurus from the feminist point ..best of luck to her no issues ..

But ask this question to yourselves had you tolerated this if she was a convert from a Hindu Family ? Until now one of you must have hurled abuses ..baahmanvaadi ..rss agent ..etc.

The efforts what the Panth altogether puts to keep a white neo sikh happy had you put for prachaar in the society today the Khalsa would have been more than 20% of the population.

Think over it ...

Bhula Chuka Muaaf Karni ..

Siri Akaal ji Sahaai

The way i look at the Charitars and have said that before on the forum too i believe ...the Khalsa was no traditional army...there were potters washermen brewers and people from all walks of life ..they were not experienced with the art of warfare and had no idea how they would be fooled to be killed.

the Mughals are known to use deceit ..if i remember long back i had heard about vishkanya ..vish is poison and kanya is girl..it is said that there use to be units of such women who were used against the enemy..anyone having intercourse with her would die ..i dont know if it was instant or after a certain duration of hours or days .

So what i feel is Maharaj has provided knowledge in the Bani of Charitaropakhyan in order to alert men..as to how dangerously an innocent looking woman ..the weaker gender that they were considered could do .

Satkirin please understand it is not to demean women..you might want to argue that why was not anything composed to alert women..but we need to go to the facts that almost everyone of the Khalsa unit was a man ..exceptions like Mai Bhago were there but you could count them on your fingers.

This is my personal opinion ..and may not be bereft of mistakes ..so bhula chuka muaaf karni ..

Siri Akaal ji Sahaai

Satkirin we are proud that you atleast made that effort ..i am of Indian origin and i couldnt...didnt even dream of trying since i just kept doing the math and 1080 minutes out of 1440 in a single day was just impossible for me .

​My friend can we talk at actuals ? It may sound rude but the reality is ..normally no men would physically be interested in women with beards ..you are talking on the philosophical plane..there are are examples of men marrying acid attack victims too..it is not that the guy has some long standing affair with her ..all respect to Harnaam and her husband ..the homosexual angle is a possibility we are discussing ..its not for fun..what is there to laugh about it ..

Ohh Man...another stretch of the same nonsensical debate...until now we had fights on the content of Hindu mat in Sri Dasam Granth Sahib ji and now we have another dimension added ..FEMINISM !!!!!!! 

N30 bhaa ji ..BIG REQUEST ...can we have this locked .

Satkirin can we talk about real world ? Would you knowingly marry a man who cross dresses ? Who puts on make up like a female and waxes his body?

Someone gets attracted when he/she finds the personality interesting . The manly look harnaam carries would obviously attract homosexuals ...99.99% of men wouldnt be attracted to her . By saying it is uncalled for you yourself mean that you do not see homosexuals as equal.

Very rightly said by SikhKhoj bro...but remember one thing while there are many who do nishkam seva there are many who fight for golaks and jatvaadi mentality ..those are very visible in the Pinds openly...Sikhi might be a helping face elsewhere but in the Pinds ..the ravidassi and mazhbi brothers are being tormented and they are moving out.

Chaado yaar..ohdi soorat ohda daarhha ...na hum channgge na bura koi....i was shocked too..par live and let live is what we humans should follow..

transsexuals ..gays ..cross dressers ..paedophiles ..the list is never ending ...it is all the play of Akaaal...we all learnt to respect gradually..

Reminds me of Akaal Ustat Sahib Baani :

ਕਤਹੂੰ ਭਿਖਾਰੀ ਹੁਇ ਕੈ ਮਾਂਗਤ ਫਿਰਤ ਭੀਖ ਕਹੂੰ ਮਹਾ ਦਾਨਿ ਹੁਇ ਕੈ ਮਾਂਗਿਓ ਧਨ ਦੇਤ ਹੋ ॥
कतहूं भिखारी हुइ कै मांगत फिरत भीख कहूं महा दानि हुइ कै मांगिओ धन देत हो ॥
Somewhere becoming a beggar, Thou beggest alms and somewhere becoming a Supreme Donor, Thou bestowest the begged wealth.

ਕਹੂੰ ਮਹਾਂ ਰਾਜਨ ਕੋ ਦੀਜਤ ਅਨੰਤ ਦਾਨ ਕਹੂੰ ਮਹਾ ਰਾਜਨ ਤੇ ਛੀਨ ਛਿਤ ਲੇਤ ਹੋ ॥
कहूं महां राजन को दीजत अनंत दान कहूं महा राजन ते छीन छित लेत हो ॥
Some where Thou givest inexhaustible gifts to emperors and somewhere Thou deprivest the emperors of their kingdoms.

ਕਹੂੰ ਬੇਦਿ ਰੀਤਿ ਕਹੂੰ ਤਾ ਸਿਉ ਬਿਪਰੀਤ ਕਹੂੰ ਤ੍ਰਿਗੁਨ ਅਤੀਤ ਕਹੂੰ ਸਰਗੁਨ ਸਮੇਤ ਹੋ ॥੧॥੧੧॥
कहूं बेदि रीति कहूं ता सिउ बिपरीत कहूं त्रिगुन अतीत कहूं सरगुन समेत हो ॥१॥११॥
Somewhere Thou workest in accordance with Vedic rites and somewhere Thou art quite opposed to it; somewhere Thou art without three modes of maya and somewhere Thou hast all godly attributes.1.11.

ਕਹੂੰ ਜੱਛ ਗੰਧ੍ਰਬ ਉਰਗ ਕਹੂੰ ਬਿਦਿਆਧਰ ਕਹੂੰ ਭਏ ਕਿੰਨਰ ਪਿਸਾਚ ਕਹੂੰ ਪ੍ਰੇਤ ਹੋ ॥
कहूं ज्छ गंध्रब उरग कहूं बिदिआधर कहूं भए किंनर पिसाच कहूं प्रेत हो ॥
O Lord! Somewhere Thou art Yaksha, Gandharva, Sheshanaga and Vidyadhar and somewhere Thou becomest Kinnar, Pishacha and Preta.
 

Jaap Sahib + Chandi banis ..

I recite long jaikaaras when i am feeling down...Soddhi Sachche Paatsaah Jeeyo Tera Khalsa Japai Akaal hi Akaal hi Akaaalhhhhhh.

I am a monna/sehajdhari and am strongly against caste hierarchy....i have high regards for dr. Babasaheb Ambedkar...i am more comfortable with my dalit brothers than others from the so called higher castes ..i cant figure out what difference does it make in my perspective towards caste whether i am monna or a singh.

I have seen more castieist attitude amongst Singhss who talk big ...will give respect to a khan than to a mazhbi.

Failed to spread and struggling to sustain ..i would put it like that.

In Guru Maharaj's times you find references to Bihar Assam Gujarat Rajasthan Sindh Afghanistan Karnataka Maharashtra Uttar Pradesh  Kashmir Odisha...

In modern times when there is so much connectivity we are struggling to overcome influences.

I feel Singh Sabha movement Punjabised the Panth ..what was loosely connected with its diversities is now expected to follow a uniform whitewashed order.

This is one good reason what makes me visit Takhat Hazoor Sahib time and again, ..we see tribal Lambada, Sikalgar , Wadari, Banjara and Bijnori presence there.

I have noticed newly married Banjara sehajdhari couples coming there to do matha teko .

The Hazooris accept them with their differences as long as they dont do any kurehits in the asthaan premises .

Is that your website bhaa ji ?

I feel what she is doing is to curb her own feeling about how she looks ..and to let all hte world know about her as you all have said. i dont know what you guys would connect to...but the Punjabi women were generally known for the beauty and i do not think that it must have been common to see bearded women otherwise this would have been specially noted by foreign historians that there are bearded ladies of the Sikh faith.

I dont wish to condemn ..as long as she is happy with her looks its okay.

Siri Akaal Sahaai

I understand Sat Bhaa ji ..

If anyone feels to give inputs ..please do.

We would use Skype

I was wondering if we can have joint simran sessions maybe fortnightly or monthly which if successful can get weekly too...we have N30 bhaa ji , Sat bhaa ji and some others who are experienced...we can decide on how much time each one can give..this will benefit all of us ..help us become true shishyas...Please share your thoughts on this ..

Siri Akaal Sahaai

​'Kirpan' comes from 'Krpaan' a sanskrit term for sword...i came across this word in Saptshati Chandi Paath of Rishi Markandey

This would be very good for those like me who are starting to go crawling to the Guru ..there is a need to be attached to the Saroop of this Maha Aaatam Gyaan ..The Baani of the Guru Sahibaans and the bhagats...

Bolan samjhan'ch bhula chuka muaaf karni ji ..Siri Akaal ji Sahaai

This has vaishnav bhagti shades...here Baba ji is giving respect to the Guru Granth Sahib ji as a live person..exactly the same way Pushti Margi vaishnavism does their worship. Please dont take this as criticism from my end ...i may not have inclination however i would not comment when there is a Mahapursh saying.

Jinn Prem kiyo tinn hi Prabh Paayo..

​No I dont .

Doing slow and long Oahn/Ong/Om chanting can help .it will generate sleep and calm your mind .

I get a jerk in my shoulders all of a sudden and it happens multiple times, its like it travels from close to my spine .and then goes diagonally upwards towards the left shoulder mostly.

I just fail to understand as to why are we thinking suicidal. Our 4 takhats and 5va takhat chalda vaheer cannot be uprooted and taken to a new homeland.

Please understand grassroot level issues, Sikhs in a minority failed to perform . ..in majority they will just murder each other ..this new homeland you dream of cannot assimilate Dakhhani , Bijnori, Assamese or other non punjabi Sikhs .  The Jatt is after Bhappas ...mainland punjabis just dont understand other Sikhs . The Nihang and taksali cant tolerate each other and they both again cant tolerate the akj and vice a versa.

I have roots in the northwest but was brought up in Maharashtra so consider myself Dakkhani...and i know how difficult it is to assimilate back into the northwestern identity.