jaikaara

As long as they are tolerated , keep expecting more and more nonsense ..i love the bana so much inspite of being a sehajdhari..its for the respect of the Panth maryada that as a monna i am buying one ...the khalistanis and these nerds are all hand in glove ..anti Panthak Anti Dasam..instead of going on defaming Radhasoamis and others there should be a clean up at home.

They should have proved that ahead of the SGPC  bro

15 hours ago, JasperS said:

If I try to TELL her anything, I will get a smack in the face most likely (and I'd deserve it too). If I ASK her to follow me, 99% of the time she would, but not because she feels its her duty to do so. She would do it because she loves and trusts me. BUT and this is a BIG BUT, By the same token, if she asks me to follow her, 99% of the time I'd also do so! Not because I am what some might call whipped, but because I also love her and trust her. So the leading and following is mutual and goes both ways. Sometimes I lead sometimes she leads. We don't keep count (though I'd say its 50/50) And for us, it's not about who is in control. Rather its about both of us having the freedom to express our individual needs and opinions and both of us having equal say and authority. And we have a very very satisfying and loving marriage. 

Good for you ....so now you may want to think if the Pati Parmesar concept is good for you ....if not then what next ...

43 minutes ago, paapiman said:

Who is Akaal?

The one and only - Satguru Sri Guru Nanak Rai Dev Bedi jee Maharaaj

 

Bhul chuk maaf

to each his own Isht is Akaal...Sargun Nirgun Nirankaar.

Do ardaas beta ..Mool Mantar , Jaap Sahib and Chaupai Sahib...this is teenage phase. Many people go through similar situations if you are a Guru of the Sikh then let Guru Sahib control you not any person .

Whenever you feel tensed turn to Mool Mantar and do a silent ardas inside ...you are not a slave of anyone no one can control you ...Akaal hi Akaal...Har Maidaan Fateh bachcha...Gurbar Akaal

By comparing Avatars we are somewhere demeaning the purpose of Akaal Purakh...at a particular time what an Avtar had to do as in the message to be given is what i feel the purpose was and would be in the future.

We are to connect with Akaal rather than the Avatars of any religion, this is what i feel and Akaal knows the best.

On 9/17/2016 at 0:21 PM, JasperS said:

@paapiman

Forgive me Paapiman, but, werent you the one who once said on here that Gurmukh wives are expected to see their husbands as God (and even bow to them?). You were in a whole discussion with a girl on here before trying to push that idea.

I think that Gurmukh husband and wife should both see the divine in each other as equals which to me agrees fully with Gurbani.  How can I ever expect my wife to see me as God, if I would be unable to see the divine in her equally?  She would see what - Only the fallible human part of me then! (and in fact, that would actually make her higher than me spiritually if she was capable to see God in me, when I could not see God in her would it not?). This is what I am trying to teach my daughter (now 8) to see God in everyone.

The passage I am referring to is in the Taksal maryada. The wording is very sexist. It tells the wives to see their husband as God but it doesnt tell the husbands to see their wives as God, instead it tells husbands to see their wives as a follower which to me sounds a lot like worshipper. 

tell your wife to follow you ...lets see how far can you get followed by her

2 hours ago, Guest Guest said:

There is damdami taksal's shop near guru ramdas sra in brahmbuta market. They have reasonable prices

ohh yea and there is Buddha Dal's shop too somewhere near ...however if you are a monna then they wont give you ..i mean the Nihangs ..dont know about the Taksalis .

13 hours ago, Ragmaala said:

With Gurus grace , das was able to finish 1,25,000 repetition within 40 days but with many mistakes. I was not able to keep up mental brahmacharya, I broke brahmacharya of eyes maybe 3-4 times, had supan dosh 2-3 times, and ended up doing hasta maithuna on like 35th day :( physical brahmacharya broke. 

Hence, my experience will differ from those who will do it with more pure minds or at different spiritual stages. I did have some personal aspirations as a reason for this jaap. Only Guru Ji & time will tell.

regardless, Here was my experience:

- i stuck to mental japa because of time constraints. I think it will be impossible to do loud japa for 16 hours straight.

- most of the days were consistent 32 malas, however there were 4 days on which the number differed as following, 16, 6, etc

- 38-39 days were in one spot, i think i did end up changing the spot

- i did light jot for 38/40 days. lighting it everyday in itself was a challenge,,and so was making sure to keep water everyday

- the first week was full of enthusiasm, but the rest of the time it was ok

- first time i did it , it took around 5 hours, then slowly the mental speed got faster and i averaged between 3 to 3 hours 45 minutes / 32 malas depending on mental alertness. if i was sleepy it would take 4 hrs to finish

- as for focus & concentration....that was only the first 20 minutes...but the rest of the time mind was distracted with many thoughts, mostly thoughts of lust & vishe vikar

Things I learnt:

- it is very difficult to take on 40 day challenge or chalisas with fixed timing, fixed spot , fixed ghee jot, water everyday. I think these are successful for mahapurush of pure mind, who have control over their minds. it is better to do a khula japa with less restrictions.

- i cannot ever entertain the thought of doing a siddhi of a mantra...i would rather do a casual japa of moolmantra with loose timings.

 

Post-Japa

-  i dont think I am sensitive enough to notice any changes yet...the mental state is same,..hmmm... i think a ton of japa is needed, in my case, to hammer my mind, also along with japa mind needs to be trained 24/7 to live consciously and make conscious choices.

 

I have had this desire to do this japa for a long time, almost a decade. I am glad Guru Ji got it done from me...rest is upto him to take care of me ...

 

 

 

 

The good thing is you actually put in the effort to do this uprala which you had decided , here i have been thinking of doing sehaj paath since years and still havent reached anywhere ...this is also an awastha bro ..dont undermine it ..maybe this process has laid the foundation and you will miss the feeling you felt while doing the jap which will motivate you to do more and not as a calculative process but a progressive one.

This is the main reason i like this forum since a person like me finds motivation here with saadhaks around discussing sadhana ..you have a lot to thank Waheguru that with the Hukum of Akaal you have managed to complete what you had decided.

I am proud of you bro ...Waheguru Ang Sang Sahaai...GurbarAkaaal.

7 hours ago, hsingh8963 said:

Thank you Khalsa Ji. How are you liking the Tegha?

wadhiya hai ji except that i should have been more knowledgeable to go for the one made from Kamaani / leaf spring steel instead of Sarabloh. Sarabloh is softer compared to Kamaani. I can share pics with you too if you like . The muttha too is the molded one which too is not convenient when you do your 'vaar'. Our local jatha had gone there for darsan and i had them get for me..those guys wernt knowledgeable and were least interested in shastars.

7 hours ago, JasperS said:

Does discrimination fall into realm of manmat? Equality of all Sikhs is Gurmat.  Problem I have with Taksal maryada is telling women their husband is God. I don't think that is in line with Gurmat principles. I am not God to my wife anymore than she is to me.  It sounds really sexist to me and against Sikh principles.  This is only one example. For that reason I think Sikh Rehet Maryada is following closer according to what our Gurus taught. As kuttabanda2, and Amarjeet already said, Sikh Rehet Maryada was made as a minimum. As long as all others fit within that minimum, they can add whatever they want for their own dhera etc. But there is a fine line when it comes to discrimination is that considered adding to, or taking away? 

are you related to Wanda Kaur ?

On 9/9/2016 at 10:19 AM, Akali_Akal_Singh said:

Indeed. But It's quite ironic how early Hindu organizations rejected Sikhism, while a bit modern ones (no need to mention names) not only consider Sikhism as a sect of Hinduism, but also don't refrain from celebrating Nanak and Gobind Singh "Jayantis", the same persons whom their "Swamiji" rejected as "dambhis" and hypocrites...

Arya Samaaj does not even call itself Hindu and is not a mainstream Hindu organization ..the members do not go to Hindu Mandirs they have their own and do not do idol worship . It is not just the Sikhs they have targeted , they are against anyone and everyone who does not fall in their line . There was a time when they and Singh Sabha were on good terms and brought back forcibly converted Muslims. Then things changed, i interacted with them to understand their mindset ..i don't get along with them .

this is a google search which will have a number of contacts

https://www.google.co.in/#q=Amritsar+shastar+store

there is Darshan singh Khandewale ..i got a sarabloh Teggha from him a few months back . .

http://babajikirpan.com

there is mixed staff ..one which is in Bana and other in uniform ...the traditional Bana would obviously not wear pants.

4 minutes ago, paapiman said:

Bro, the above link advertises liquid extracts of Tulsi, which come in a bottle, and are very convenient to consume.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

if taken fresh the benefits are faster

10 hours ago, Kuttabanda2 said:

I'm not dismissing Ritualism as a whole. There's a fine line between critique and ridiculing.  And I do understand that they are cultural influences, I just don't think that's "Original" or "Seeneh Baseeneh di Maryada", I also don't believe that the Sampardaic/Snaatan side of the Panth is in any position for moral or religious condemnation of the SGPC-Singh Sabha faction.  Also, Telling people to "Correct our own self self" shouldn't be used to shut down any kind of discussion.  I do however agree with your first few statements.  

I understand bro , i too am not saying there shouldnt be any discussion but these critique views are generated mainly by the missionary groups who are a cross breed of the taliban and go to any length and breadth to disown Dasam baani and Puraatan maryada. If we go back to the baani as said before we will not need anything ..nothing at all. With this will you want to stop building Gurdwaras ?

9 hours ago, Kuttabanda2 said:

I would disagree, Ji. DDT, Hazooris, and Nanaksar are also man made, (they formed around the same time as the Tatt Khalsa Singh Sabha did), as well as every other Samparda, their supposed lineage and claims aren't evidences of their purity . The caste discrimination, inconsistent Rehat/Maryada, is enough to doubt and disprove the ideas of these sects/cults/deras, In 1877, Chaupai Sahib wasn't even included in the Nitnem banis in their Rehatnama (This is the time when "Puraatan Maryada was followed".  These people are as flawed/incomplete and man made as the SGPC, The only thing the SGPC didn't do was concoct a fictitious history and connect a few well known historical personalities to their lineage. They're also evidently as Manmat as everyone else.  There is no 100% Puraatan Maryada or sect.  And they certainly aren't practicing Sikhi "the way it was done."

The Japji sahib, The Jaap Sahib The Akaal Ustat Sahib or even Sukhmani sahib ..these banis indicate that core Gurmat is the direct connection between Hari Purakh Akaal and us...if you dive deeper you would not need the Gurdwaara , the Prakaash and Sukhaasan as well as Deg rituals and Chaur sahib...just shoonya...HOWEVER ...does a human being right form the beginning understand this ? in generic term a good Sikh is one who regularly visits the Gurdwaara does sewa and contributes his daswandh along with doing Nitnem. In Gurbani Guru Maharaj has time and again mentioned that people who cut off themselves from the world living in caves and growing their kes too are not promised an awastha ...Then ..how does the so called Gursikhi jeevan of just doing things ritually guarantee anything ? Rituals are part of a Organized Religion and Sangat - Pangat were introduced by Guru ji Thyself for a reason. The Rituals at Hazoor Sahib are a mixture of Udasi, Nirmale and Nihang Sampradaas and rather than ridiculing them one should understand that they are cultural influences which play a vital role in the militarisation of the Khalsa...not everyone can be a Baba Deep Singh ji ..not every one is a Charhdikala awastha ...let us first correct our own self than we pinpoint Sampradaas maryada.

Thats true the diet does a lot of difference , you can even have khichdi along with soup however just make sure you rotate your diet even though you make go for easily digestible foods .

4 hours ago, Manrajsingh said:

Veerji finally i made it today. Maharajs apaar kirpa everything was fine i wasn't sleepy as i am normally. Its only cus of eating light food 2-3 hours before bed. Meditation was good aswell.

Thanks for help everyone who replied. 

Bhul chuk maaf

waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh. 

Waah ji Waah ...Akaal Purakh Kirpa karan ..Guru Sahibaan di meher tuhaade te sadaa rahe ..very happy for you veere .

Just now, Manrajsingh said:

Its a shame that i sleep alot. Minimum 8 hours i have to or else i will keep sleeping during meditation. I dont know whats wrong with my body :( 

6-8 hours is normal ..go slow ..you will slowly be able to reduce it by an hour or so ..

2 minutes ago, Manrajsingh said:

Its very hard to wake up and i am trying this already. I want something new. :/

If you are done with 6 hours of sleep you would be fresh

1 minute ago, Manrajsingh said:

9-3:00 :/ veerji didnt get your point. 

Please elaborate. 

Bhul chuk maaf

Sorry what i meant was you sleep from 9 pm - 3:00 am / 3:30 am and then wakeup at 3:30 am and by 4 you would start with meditation .

5 hours ago, Manrajsingh said:

I tried eating earlier last night about 2 hours earlier than what i normally do. I woke up 2:30 in morning but i couldn't stand up. This is the time i actually want to wake up. My body was tired today but my eyes were open for a long time. All i ate last night was jam bread butter  I slept roughly around 9.  I just want to do meditation during amrit vela without falling asleep. I normally do meditation during the evening but amrit vela has more importance, so i want to do as much meditation i can durning amrit vela. 

Maalko why not sleep 6 hours at a stretch and do meditation from say 9 - 3:30 or so ..the actual amrit vela / brham muhrat is 2 hours or so before sunrise