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I got few contemponary pics of paintings of Guru.

About 4 of Guru Nanak Sahib exist, 1 of Guru Hargobind Sahib, 1 of Guru Tegh Bahadur and 1 of Guru Gobind Singh. And even one of Guru Har Rai.

Jaggi believes fully in Dasam Granth now.

Yes DalSingh good idea, bother to start?

Anyone else who knows something on it?

I asked many learned Singhs and they didn't know :S

Only info I got that it was during 6th Patshahs time.

Anyone has knowledge on this?

How has the Jaikara evoluated? When was it started ? Was it during Guru Hargobind Sahibs time?

Any historical texts on it.

And how come there is the traditional Boley So Nihaal, and then Nihang ones such as Jo Gajkey ... is it just that Nihangs edited it to make it longer? Or were all in use?

Historical granths on this?

It is not Mehma Prakash that says that it is unreliable, it is Bansawlinama. Kesar Singh, its writer, says that all his info is based on hearsay, and he is collecting it only for his pleasure.

Living in Belgium, I see that Islam is rising fastly here. First they banned hijabs and turbans in school to control Islamists. They saw that some areas are kind off inaccesible to Goreh. So they took up this step.

When a school in Antwerp city banned hijab too (coz banning hijab turban is school decision, not state), Muslims attacked it, blocked the school staff etc vandalised it.

Most common name in my city Brussels (capital of europe) is Muhammad. Very gora name, isn't it?

Most of newborns are Muslims.

Just some facts you need to consider before commenting on this topic. Not in favour nor against this ban.

how much does a normal dasam granth bir cost in punjab?

just the text (no translations)

thanks

A sikh can live anywhere. You are no one to say that, you RSS agent. Lets meet up Inder.

Come here to Belgium. You said you came often to belgium and wanted to meet me (remember those chain mails?), I agreed and you got scared. Lets meet up, I will be awaiting you for debate. Come now!

We don't support spokesman. Joginder is as bad as you Lakhwinder. Both Guru Nindaks. One do by labelling Dasam Granth as Bani others by discarding (parts of) Guru Granth Sahib.

Inder, are you paid by post or by person you harassed? I guess its the former.

Spokesman guy wrote against Prof Darshan Singh. Shows how much they love each other.

By the way, check this:

http://khalsanews.org/

Fateh

Haha atleast we Anti DG lot are fighting case uncle Lakhwinder. Are you paid per post or per person harassed?

I don't only read stuff attributed to 10th Patshah, I also read old Rehatnamas and this is apparently one of them.

Stamp of Prof Darshan Singh? But I am not in Canada so can't get it.

Here it is brothers and sisters:

http://thekhalsapanth.blogspot.com/2010/03/fake-so-called-dasam-granth-bir-of-1698.html

Okay. I will provide more pages. But what if I do?

Fer tusi ki karonge?

You guys are blind. I showed so much proof and you guys ignored it.

Guru Nanak Sahib Maharaaj was right. MOORKHAN NAAL NA LUJHIAI. You haven't read Dasam Granth or all Charitropakhyan (I read all 405 tales myself but you guys still won't believe it) yet are so blind about it.

If you can't discuss then I won't waste my time posting stuff. I proved Mani Singh Bir/Delhi Bir etc wrong. ALl you guys could say is no its not blabla... Instead of giving some reasons. You can't defend it and you know it.

Vidya Sagar granth is quite a fairy tale. I don't think Guru Ji would have compiled something to then have it lost, Guru Ji were antaryami. Why need for a secondary Granth if Guru Ji himself got our only Granth and Guru SGGS written down at Damdama Sahib?

You guys are blind. I showed so much proof and you guys ignored it.

Guru Nanak Sahib Maharaaj was right. MOORKHAN NAAL NA LUJHIAI. You haven't read Dasam Granth or all Charitropakhyan (I read all 405 tales myself but you guys still won't believe it) yet are so blind about it.

If you can't discuss then I won't waste my time posting stuff. I proved Mani Singh Bir/Delhi Bir etc wrong. ALl you guys could say is no its not blabla... Instead of giving some reasons. You can't defend it and you know it.

Stay on topic from now on.

What is this Bijai Mukt? Some say it is authored by tenth Patshahi some say it isn't. It is some sort of rehatnama, isn't it?

Some quotes of I found on net:

"Bijai Mukta Sakhi Dasvi(it is part of 500 or Panj Sau Sakhi perhaps and some attribute this to Guru)"

"The second Sau Sakhi is Bijai Mukt Sakhi Dasavi. This part of Panj Sau Sakhi, which is said to be work of Tenth Master himself(we have lord Jesus as per new testament also making point clear with stories). Note worthy story in here is Tenth Master respecting the usage of beef by scavenger community."

"...Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa should keep hair unshorn, have flowing beard and have simple Dastaar which saves from impiety. Then the Sikhs asked what would happen to those Amritdhari who start cutting their hair or do not keep their hair covered. The Guru replied that they would be stupid and would lose their sensibility. It is a blemish to remain bareheaded...Always keep two turbans. When the bigger turban is removed, the smaller be kept. The smaller turban should not be removed."

(Bijai Mukat Dharam Shastra - Sakhi-8)

"Keshas be washed. Turban or Dastaar should not be placed on floor but should always be kept with due respect. Food should not be eaten bareheaded."

(Bijai Mukt Dharam Shastra, Sakhi 70)

So is Bijai Mukt a part of the original Sau Sakhi?

Is it available in shops?

I am sure it is not by Dasam guru, but since I am interested in all Puratan Rehatnamas I want to know about it.

Known as Bijai Mukt - Bijai Mukt Granth - Bijai Mukt Patshahi 10 - Bijai Mukt Dharam Shastra etc

your Dasam Granth chelas of France are going school bareheaded too.

Anakh? I am not some illiterate fool like you, I won't ruin my future. We are winning case anyway. Why show sikhs as people who break law ? We can solve it peacefull way too.

And this cyberwarrioring? don't speak yo, i don't let nyone fool with me in school or wherever it is, unlike u lot who get slapped up by pakis on street. i smash them.

Tankhahnama is not same as Rehatnama. Tankhahnama doesn't mention Jaap. I got whole of Tankhahnama.

Oh really? You just can't answer them haha ! Fake Mani Singh Bir, fake 1698 bir, now you want Guru Gobind Singh to come and say Guru Ji didn't write it or what?

Here are is pic of zafarnama in 1698 bir

Hanji. Fighting case with govt, and guess who? Anti DG gurughar of Belgium haha.

I follow only SGGs, and the nitnem i do from SGGS is backed up by Tankhahnama.

I will make a small poster of Lamba fraud and his lie with truth and put on my blog and link it tommorow.

Yes I got Photos. I can upload if you want.

Anand Sahib isn't part of daily MINIMUM nitnem. Minimum nitnem was put before Raags by Guru Ji:

Japji

Sodar and Sopurkh

Sohila

Bhai Gurdas Dian Varan confirm to read Japji. Tankhahnama which is mukhvaak of Guru also confirm these above Banian.

Don't go off topic please. Yes I do get up at early in the morning to do Japji Sahib and Anand Sahib.

Stick to topic please. Any Bir dating before 1740s or by Bhai Mani Singh or Baba Deep Singh?

Hanji Bhaji I am the same Sunny Singh from SikhSangat. I think I wasn't Chardikalla reading all those DG compositions.

Why didn't Guru Ji put 4 Banian before Sri Raag (1st raag) in raags? Because THAT is our Nitnem. Tankhahnama amongst some other Puratan sources also agrees on the fact that we should read Japuji in morning, Rehraas in evening and Sohila before sleeping.

Sharda doesn't mean that we should take anything where Patshahi 10 is written on and worship it.