GuptSingh1699

So here is a duplicate khalsa fauj who was put under moderation on sikhsangat and ran away from there.There he was telling that he belives in Dasam Granth partially. Here he is saying that he does not believe.

These lie machines only purpose is to indulge in propaganda and waste our time in bickerings.

Now this site is being swamped by them.

Guptsingh why do not you do some research on Dasam Granth on this site. There is a lot of material to rebut your nonsense.

I am not duplicate Khalsa Fauj. Ask mods to do IP check. I do not follow Charitars nor do I keep Dasam Granth writer(s) in high regard (means I don't impersonate like them).

Gurptsingh1699 was guptsingh84 on sikhsangat.com

There he says

http://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php/topic/48482-dasam-granth/

y is Harmanjit Singh 'Akali' of Toronto.

I am in no way pro or anti Dasam Granth, but bloom you do not make sense, sorry.

Seems like you got a few screws lose on the upper section of your body. guptsingh84 is not equal to GuptSingh1994. There are many people on other forums with Singh variant, should I say that they are your ID's ? Don't pull chariters on me.

Strange, Khalsa Fauj says that doing Vaheguru Simran is not a part Sikhism, yet you are saying you do it? Inder Sinh Ghagha also wrote a book calling Vaheguru Simran as Gorakh Dhandaa. Do you agree with Khalsa Fauj and Inder Sinh Ghagha on this?

You do not make sense. Do all PRO DG guys have same maryada? AKJ is pro DG and so is DDT, but one doesn't believe in Raagmala while the other does.

I believe in Naam Simran and also do it, I don't care about Harmanjit Singh nor Inder Singh Ghagga's stance on Naam Simran. Howhever I stand united with them on DG issue, just like all your maryada differing Sampardas like Nihang, AKJ and DDT unite on DG issue.

Waheguru has gifted you all with brains... They are there to be used, not for filling empty stuff in the head.

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

Not true.

Read contemporary Sikh historic books (including eye-witness accounts) and you will see that Guru Sahib recited 5 banis as we know them today. NOBODY has the right to change those except Guru Ji themselves. Though it seems that Darshan Ragi is trying to.

Give sources. Just claiming something doesn't make sense. Panth is equal to the Guru. Sarbat Khalsa can modify things in Rehat which are anti Gurmat. Don't say that Panthic Rehat Maryada (Akal Takht Maryada) was made by Guru Ji...

Before asking more questions, reply to the ones already posted.

What rule is that?

Regarding 'Mahakal' - who in your opinion is the destroyer of everything? Gurbani tells us that all has been created and destroyed thousands of times in the past and will be destroyed again. IMHO, Waheguru is the creator and also the destroyer. Now, tell me what kaal means, if you understand the language used in Dasam Bani?

Waheguru creates and destroys everything. But YOUR Mahakaal, of YOUR Dasam Granth has 4 arms, a red tongue amongst other stuff.

If you get some time from worshipping DG, read the Mool Mantar which describes Waheguru... It says that Waheguru is AJOONI (UNBORN) and AKAAL MOORAT. You know what that is, or you need translations for that?

Kahn Singh Nabha had his opinions, doesn't make them right. Guru Ji has used the word 'Har' and 'Ram' to mean Akaal Purakh and not the gods of the same name. In Hinduism, worshippers of Ram do alot of things that are anti-Gurmat so should we change Gurbani wherever the word Ram appears?

You are in no way more respectable or knowledgable than him. Raam in Bani is used for God. If you name your son Waheguru, it doesn't make him Waheguru. Same way Raam Chander was named after lord Raam, doesn't make him Raam. Stick to topic, I have no time for off topic stuff.

Your other points: do you know the make up of the Bedi kul?

Don't ask questions, make your point.

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

Kala afghani is also Punjabi canadian. His followers who disown Gurmat are called kala afghanis.

They not only disown Dasam Granth they also preach as below

1) There is no naam simran.It is useless.

2) There is no amrit vela

3) There is no gurmantra called waheguru. Nor it is useful.

4) Guru Gobidn singh did not administer any Amrit in 1699

5) There is no karma theory in sikhi.

6) There is no reincarnation in sikhi.

7) To bow before SGGS is idol worship

8) There is no use to keep SGGS in parkash.It should be in cupboards.

Inder, don't create a scene yo. I'm 200% anti DG and I love to do Waheguru Simran. I wake up early in morning as instructed by Guru Raam Daas in his bani 'Gur Satgur Ka Jo Sikh Akhaye, So Bhalke Uth Har Naam Dhiavey". As I said before I love to recite Waheguru. I believe in reincarnation, since it IS a part of Nankian philosophy. I bow to Shabad Guru, yes. It is in no way a form of idol worship. SGGS Maharaj should be kept in Prakash, whoever keeps it in cupboards is a maha moorakh.

Stop spreading lies on sites like SikhSangat. Your one big liar.

Since you guys love to say Mahakaal is the destroyer of Kaal, would you also say that Maha

Moorakh is the destroyer of Moorakhs?

Mahakaal has 4 arms, loves booze and green stuff. Bhai Kahan Singh Nabha in his Gurmat Martand says that it is necessary for a Sikh of Mahakaal to do Nashapatta... You do that?

Your emotional blackmail and rants won't have any effect on me, do straight debate.

Ballym i do not need your condescending Sikhphilosophy bull here, let Khalsa fauj handle his discussion. I dont need you to come here and start shifting this in a different direction so that the questions i asked get ignored.. Hindus do not have issues with each other for the fact that they do not feel that one group is superior to another. They let those who want to practice something do so wihout any issues or debates!

Can you put the arth of 'Kalmal Hoi Mednee' dont just dodge it. Please put it up

Also the shabad of Bhagat Namdev Ji please.

Can I ask, have you taken amrit? What banis were recited? What banis were recited in 1699? I think it is worth noting what your views really are rather then questioning others on the forum all the time.

Amrit Sanchaar Banis are decided by the Guru Panth. We can not change that. Just like these 5 were finalised in the 1920s-1930s, it could be changed by Panth any time in future. Read Puratan Granths and try to find what Banis were read instead of asking us.

My first point against Dasam Granth:

1.

* Bachittar Natak says Guru Nanak Dev, Guru Angad Dev and Guru Amar Das were Bedis. (page 128)

* SGGS on Ang 1396 and 1401 (Bhatt Bani) clearly say that Guru Amar Das was Bhalla.

* Historically Guru Angad Dev was a Trehan and Guru Amar Das (as stated in Gurbani) a Bhalla.

Big time contradiction. Who is right? Bachittar Natak or SGGS? Pick one please. You can't pick both as they are contradictory. Pick one. If you pick SGGS then discard DG, if you pick DG then you disown Guru Granth Sahib Ji... In that case I'll ask you to form your own "Kub Shyam Panthis" religion.

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa

Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh