Keerat Singh

Like I said you can see the original manuscripts for yourself. The Rangrettrari version is in bad condition, the other one can be easily read. However Reading the whole published version would be a good start. I dont know how you have concluded that the language seems modern. Some parts are very similar to Guru Gobind Singh jees bani, others resemble Saintapati's works. for example: Kaha Prabhu taruu ar neer maih hai bandeevan Kaha Prabhu mari aoo majar maih parkash hai kaha prabhu pahan aoo agan pravist aaor example of influence from Akal Ustat: Ad na ant na roop na rang na naam na tham na jaat na liki hai. Another example: Chab roop kee anoop jan anbrai ki bhoop, Drig kanj seer bhol nav jovan lobhat hai. Infuence from SGGS: Satgur tum sharnai aya another example: Keet patang bohu bar leea pab pas pashu janmaih bharmioo (SGGS Shabad: Kahee janam beh keet patanga) The Shabadavali also has alot of influence from Farsi and other parchalat bhasa used in Sri Dasam Granth and writings from that time. In relation to one or two accounts supporting a particluar view, you cannot conclude that the one or two account is wrong and the majority is correct. When does history first mention Goats being killed? Why is there no mention of goats being chatka for so many years? If you follow the majority vote when looking at history then Sant Singh/Sangat Singh was given the kalgi at Chamkaur Sahib yet contemporary sources state that they became shahid before reaching Chamkaur and Shahid Bhai Jeevan Singh jee was given the Kalgi. Nihang Singh jathebandi also preach that Bhai Jeevan Singh was given the kalgi. Go to the gurdwara controlled by Nihangs at Chamkaur where guru jee used to drink water from the khoo in Chamkaur. But the majority vote would say otherwise. Majority vote would change history as we know it. Another example would be Mati Das, Sati Das and Bhai Diyala did not even become shahids in Delhi. As soon as our vidvaan realise this Giani Gian Singh will be blamed for introducing the shahidi of the Sikhs with Guru Tegh Bahadur Singh jee.

How do you know this has not been done? Because you became aware of it today it does not mean its just appeared out of thin air. The problem remains that no one can be bothered to buy Niranjan Arifi or Gurmukh Singh jees books. Pehla kitab di darshan ta kar loo. Then start point fingers!!!! No one will put question marks on the authenticity of it until someone does a translation, because our mahaan vidvaan cant read these manuscripts. Mayb its a good thing Arifi and Gurmukh Singh didnt do a translation. Lets the Khoji try and figure it out. Both books were published over 20 years ago. So you can still buy a copy. I know that Basha Vibhag has 2 manusripts. They have the Rangreetari copy. I cant remember where Gurmukh Singhs version is.

Veer jee for the kakkar it will give AKJs a real headache because he mentions kesh. The rest are what everyone agrees on. Also he directly uses the word Kakkar. Panch badi prabh kai dar hai ar panch ka maan hai gurdarbari Kirpan kara kach kesh kankat kar deenhang nischai panch kakkari Panch Kakkar deai gur ni punj panch ka panch vikaran mari Bhed kohe goop neh en moohang prab ki chin panch praboo at piyari. 2 pauri's later he writes abit more on the kakkar. Panj bania he refers to when preparing amrit: panch he bani ko paath pareejai. Jap Jaap savayaai chaupai Anand ko, Paath soo pahul tiyar kareejai On a side note when reading Sri Guru Khata i came across Bhai Jaita jee referring to Guru Tegh Bahadur jees shahidi, Guru Gobind Singh jees response when Guru Tegh Bahadur jees head was bought to Anandpur, the battles at Anandpur, Qoutes from Sri Dasam Granth etc.

Bhai Jaita (Shahid Bhai Jeevan Singh Jee) has also written an eye witness account in Sri Guru Khata. His account is abit different from Abul turani. For example he mentions a tent being used. However one thing which he makes clear is that the panj Piyari were killed and came back alive. When the panj piyari were killed this caused chaos and shock amongst the sangat. There are two hand written text of Sri Guru Khata availble. Niranjan Arifi used one text in his book and Gurmukh Singh used the other. Niranjan Arifi's text remained with the Rangrettrai. If one reads their ithaas, it makes perfect sense why they remained away from the rest of the panth and Sri Guru Khata only remained in their community. Gurmukh Singh got his text from another source. Bhai Jaita jee also wrote another granth which like most of our history seems to have got lost. Savayai Teh bi Satgur Bahai pakar kar, Tamboo Bheetar pakar patayioo. Eev hee Satgur Panch sikhan koo,tanboo maih li jaat suhayioo. Kete bar baee satgur too, pun tamboo ti bahar na ayaoo. khusar Musaar Sikhan maih hoeehai, Panchoon ko gur mar mukayioo. (pauri 58) The above is from Gurmukh Singh jees version. Sri Guru Khata also explains how Amrit is prepared, panj bania which are recited, panj kakkar, rehit etc. None Samparda/Sant jhata's will be the first to reject Bhai Jaita's writing becuase his writings dont fit their agenda. There is another eye witness account which many mahapursh used to qoute. The diary of Bhai Har Singh jee used to be at Hazoor Sahib. Sant baba Gurbachan Singh jee did darshan of Bhai Har Singh jee diary. He referred to this diary during a visit around Harkowal, Dera Santgarh (Jabbar) between Jullandhar and Hoshiarpur. Those who were around Baba jees time and connected to the mahapursh heard the khata. My teacher Sant baba Mehar Singh jee has also referred to this dairy. However Baba jee tried to do darshan in the 60/70s, unfortunantly the Singhs at Hazoor Sahib claimed they have never heard of it. I tried around 10 years ago aswell...but I got the same response.

If you want Ustad Harjinder Singh Lallie's contact details I can send you them...The naamdharis also teach at the Naamdhari gurdwara on Cov Road (Birmingham)... You also have the option of making a trip to London and learning from Ustad Surjit Singh Naamdhari. Traditionally mahapurshs used to set up vidyala's for teaching gurmat sangeet, however recent trends of sants starting schools and colleges for sansaari studies is just one of many reason that gurmat sangeet has been hit so bad. Obviously there are many reasons for the decline but a good example is the dommeeli taksal... Sant baba Jwala Singh Harkowal, Sant Baba Bhag Singh Jabbar wali and Sant Baba Dalip Singh gave sant Sarvan Singh the asheervaad to start the taksal in Dommeeli. But most of the taksals no longer exist. Shaheediyan has given really good advice... thanks for that. Most poeple are only out to justify their own action... for mashoori they question traditional seena baseena compositions and traditions in gurmat sangeet... Maharaj kirpa kari we stop stooping to these levels for mashoori. In a perfect world we would recognise everyones hard work and contribution rather than making unjustified comments. You can buy the following books from India: Sur Simran Sangeet (7 Volumes) Sant Sarvan Singh Gandharv - (republished by Sant Pritam Singh) Gurbani Sangeet Pracheen Reet Ratnavali (2 Volumes) Bhai Avtar & Gurcharan Singh Gurbani Sangeet Gian Singh (Abbotabad) (2 volumes) published SGPC Sangeet Sagar Ragi Jaswant Singh Tibar Publisher Damdami Taksal Guru Gobind Singh Rag Ratnavali Prof. Tara Singh Partal Gaiki Prof. Tara Singh (Out of print) Guru Angad Dev Rag Ratnavali - Prof. Tara Singh (Out of print) Bhagat Raag Ratnavali - Prof. Tara Singh (out of print) Sri Guru Granth Sahib Rag Ratnavali Prof. Tara Singh Publisher Punjabi University, Patiala Sangeet Sikhya Gavo Saachi Bani Raghbir Singh Publisher Arsi Publishers, Chandni Chowk, New Delhi Gurmat Sangeet Sagar (4 Volumes) Principle Dyal Singh Gurmat Sangeet Sikhya Principle Dyal Singh Tabla Mridang Sagar - Principle Dyal Singh Ishar Sangeet sagar Ustad Sham Singh Publisher Chattar Singh Jiwan Singh, Amritsar Gurmat Sangeet Charan Singh Ji Guru Tegh Bahadur Rag Ratnavali Prof. Tara Singh Publisher Punjabi University, Patiala Guru Arjan Dev Rag Ratnavali - Prof. Tara Singh Publisher Punjabi University, Patiala Guru Ramdas Rag Ratnavali - Prof. Tara Singh Publisher Punjabi University, Patiala (ive heard this has been republished) Indian Classical Music GS Mansukhani Gyan Bandshavli Dr. Gurnam Singh Publisher Punjabi University, Patiala Vismad Naad (Gurmat Sangeet Vishesh Ank) Gurudwara Jawadi Taksal, Ludhiana Swar Samund (Jeevani of Bhai Samund Singh) Professor Paramjot Singh, Guru Gobind Singh Study Circle, Ludhiana (Difficult to find) Sahaj Dhun - Professor Paramjot Singh, Guru Gobind Singh Study Circle (Difficult to find) Saral Kirtan Parnali (2 Volumes) Joginder Singh Saral Guru Nanak Sangeet Padhati Granth ( - Gurudwara Jawadi Taksal, Ludhiana Gurbani Sangeet Darpan Prof. Kartar Singh Published by SGPC Guru Angad Dev jee Sangeet Darpan - Prof Kartar Singh - Published by SGPC - (you can only get this from SGPC shops) Gurmat Sangeet Sagar Asa Di Vaar Tey Shabad - Principle Dyal Singh Gurmat Sangeet Prabandh Tey Pasar dr. Gurnam Singh, Punjabi University, Patiala Sikh musicology - dr. Gurnam Singh Gurmat Sangeet da vilakanata - Dr Jasbir Kaur There is also a book written by Bhai Vir Singh which is out of print. Bhai Kahan Singh Nabha in Mahan Kosh also gives abit of discussion on Raags... I might have missed some books out, ill have alook again later. Principle Dyal Singh and Prof Kartar Singh have some good compositions in difficult taals, they also have compositions of Giani Gian Singh Almast and Bhai Samund Singh jee... Principle Dyal Singh teaches at Rakab Ganj Delhi and Prof Kartar Singh has the Anandpur Academy... both teach tanti saaz.