Hari

No offence taken.I chhak Amrit everyday.

Jai Jai Mahakal!

Jai Jai Chandika!

This is offensive:

As far as I'm concerned there is no room for a traitor on the battle field and a mona in the dharma.

Prabhu, you have a serious problem here.Because you've just proven that you aren't up to being a Sikh of Satguru Nanak Nirankar.A Sikh of Satguru Nanak would never say that a "mona" can't be part of the "dharma".Never.

What "dharma" do you speak of?You are going down the wrong road if you think that a mona cannot be a Sikh of Satguru Nanak Dev.Next you will be saying that the Akali Nihang Singh Khalsa are wrong in doing jhatka and sukha. :twisted:

Please reply to my PM Prabhu Ji.Spread the Love.

Jai Saringpani Ki!

Well said Vijaydeep Singh.Not even once is the word "hindu" or "hind" mentioned in any ancient Indian scriptures, like Bhagvad Gita, Yoga Sutra etc.Like I mentioned before, hindu refers to a low caste (black skinned person) or dog.I don't know why there are idiots out there who are happy to call themsleves hindu.

jtSingh has raised some very important and pertinent points.Sorry Prabhu Ji if you already know, the word "itihas" in question refers to history, specifically Sikh history.Apologies if you already know.

Thank you all for your responses and information.

What are the details (if any) of Baba Shri Chand Ji's death?How, where, when did he die?That is if he died....

Do you think he could still be alive on this earth?He was a Maha-siddha.Did he attain aishvarya?As far as I know, details about his life and death are rather sketchy.

Question by an "Amritdhari" "Singh": Nihang Singhs are Amritdhari aren't they?

:roll:

My answer: Yes, the Akali Nihang Singh Khalsa are the original Singh Khalsa and don't you forget it.

Here is Narsingh avatar tearing apart the demon Harnakash, while the boy Bhagat Prahlad prays to his awesome image:

http://www.aboriginalproductions.com/images/narsimha.jpg

Lovely.

http://www.tapoban.org/phorum/read.php?f=1&i=15026&t=15026

i read the above site and i get paralysed at night sometimes and cant move for some seconds its a terrible feeling this does not happen much any more but i was looking for a explanation as to what might be the paralysing thing i feel and i read the above site and it said its ghosts

this is very distressing i go into being paralysed and everything is functioning around me the radio is on but my body is paralysed and i have 2 concentrate really hard on waking me up if i dont i go into a bad dream

what shall i do`

Ik Oankar Satgur Parsad.

Jai Shri Mahakal.

Jai Chandika.

Jai Narsingh Saroop!!

This is sleep paralysis.But I suspect that other mischievous entitiies take advantage of this temporary state of a human being.Some scare you, some are scared of you , and some want to have their wicked way with you :shock: .In this state you are vunerable and maybe open to percieve other dimensions of space and beings that inhabit those dimensions.They then notice you and you notice them, and the fun begins .

What do I do when it happens to me?I get angry and call upon Narsingh Saroop and tear there dark bodies apart :twisted: .They haven't come to visit me in very very long time.I wonder why... :twisted:

I like to confront any kind of nightmare or night terror.You have to take the plunge is what I believe.No matter how sh*t scared you are.You will learn more about yourself if you fight these forces, I believe.I think they are "hungry ghosts", described in many ancient texts.The souls of people who have died having very high desires and material wants.

Show them who's boss!!

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2004/20040706/punjab1.htm

does anybody know how much 200 to 800 crore would be in dollars or pounds?

Indian Rupee fluctuates between 70-85+ Rupees per Pound Sterling.I believe at the moment it is around 80-85 R to every £1.

For those who don't know, one kror (crore) is ten million (10 000 000).So lets take Pounds Sterling exchange rate at 80, that would mean:

200 kror = £25 000 000 (twenty five million Pounds)

800 kror = £100 000 000 (one hundred million Pounds)

If I've made a mistake in calculation, then please correct, but don't get too excited about it.

Yes Gurbani does say more about the Traigun, but I'm not an expert on Gurbani so I won't be giving a translation or interpretation, sorry.I feel uneasy when trying to explain Gurbani, nowadays.

But Naam Simran, which in my view is a sublime form of ekaagra (one-pointed concentration).Through this yoga (endeavour to join with the Divine) you may dissolve away the Traigun and attain a state known as gun-atit, which means to "transcend the traigun".Gun-atit is also known as chautha pad or "fourth state", the other three being waking, deep sleep and dreaming.

There is also something beyond the chautha pad, but I can't comment on it.I'm just Satguru Nanak Nirankar's fool.

Sorry for any mistake I made.

Vibhuti keeps you warm...

In the very first composition of Adi Guru Granth Sahib, Jap Ji Sahib, Satguru Nanak says:

Eka Mai Jugat Via-i Tin Chele Parvaan.

Ik Sansari, Ik Bhandari, Ik Lae Dibaan.

Jiv Tis Bhavai, Tivai Chalavai Jiv Hovai Furman.

Uh Vekhai, Ona Nadar Na Avai, Bahuta Ehu Vidaan.

Adesh Tisai Adesh.

Aad, Aneel, Anaad, Anaahat, Jug Jug Eko Ves. (Pauri 30)

The Trai-gun are also known as the servant-gods Brahma, Vishnu and Shiv.The above pauri from Jap Ji Sahib tells of how the Trai-gun (Trimurti) came to be.The One Consciousness (Eka, Ishvar) joined in (Divine sexual) union (jugat) with the Transcendental Ground of Nature (Mai, Maya, Shakti), and from that She conceived and gave birth to Brahma (Sansari, Rajo-gun), Vishnu (Bhandari, Satto-gun) and Shiv (Laa-e Dibaan, Tamo-gun).

Sorry for any mistake I have made.

You still should carry on your family name.You don't want people from the same family marrying each other.For instance, Manjit Singh Khalsa marries Tarsem Kaur Khalsa, and later they find out that they are first cousins.That is why it is good aqal to know what family each person is from.

You don't want the Sikh population to end up inbred.

A little aqal goes a long way.So do not think of getting rid of your family name and maybe sticking Khalsa on the end, that's stupidity.It isn't about false pride about your clan, but knowing each others gotra's comes in handy when marrying.No inbreeding please.

it's probably the same thing. the question is whether it's easier to love or to hate.

from what i've seen, the "path of love" is unbelievably harder than hatred simply because it involves overcoming many obstacles such as ego, maya, etc. but in the end, it seems that love is more beneficial to everyone which is a really good thing.

Constant dhyan via love, hatred or fear of the Divine will eventually dissolve your ahankar("I" sense), then your buddhi (intellect) and manas (mind).All these 3 things are collectively known as Chitta (seperated/individuated being-consciousness).What should be left is called Chit or Paramatma, which is of the nature of sat-cid-anand (being-(pure)consciousness-bliss).

Something like that, apologies if I messed up the explaination.

do u think about someone more if u intensely hate them or intensely love them... or both?

Well, just think about the times when you had fallen in love (puppy love? ) with someone and about the times when you hated someone because you felt they'd done you wrong.

Both love and hate make you think about the object of love and hate constantly until that love or hate are over.You thought about them constantly right?At night when you were asleep, when awake in dreams.

It's all about dhyan.Where is your dhyan right now, what's in the back of your mind right now?

I have no personal vendetta against anyone. I do however have differences in opinion. Just as some of you have.

Hari you call them heretical, i call you heretical for not accepting them as the leaders of the panth..This institution was started by Guru Ji himself.

I dont know much abouit sikh heritage therefore why comment on something I dont know.

You guys are all just got your kacherreh in a twist because Akal Takht is no longer controlled by Buddha Dal...You guys always complain that people believe amritdharis have monopoly...well how bout Buddha Dal...They want monopoly by saying they are the rightful heirs. Accept it...Budha Dal are not in charge. So please try to reallign into the panth and stop playing the rebel without a cause.

SGPC have surely made mistakes, as does anyone...but they are with good intentions. That is why nearly all panthic institutions accept their command. Even Santa Singh, who git his tankha from an institution that apparently he does not accept. Seems a bit off to me!

The SGPC have no love for Satguru Nanak Nirankar and His (true) beloved Sikh.They care only for their own self and massing of money from Maharaj's golakh.The institute of Shri Akal Takht has been taken over and run by chor and thag (thieves and robbers), this is what my beloved mother, a daughter of Akali Nihang Guru Gobind Singh Maharaj has said to me many a time.

If you think that me and my mother are heretics for not accepting the heretical SGPC, then so be it.It doesn't affect in any way mine and my mothers love for Satguru Nanak Nirankar, the God of gods, Lord and Master of Maya Devi.

Akaal hi Akaal!!

Gur Bar Akaal!!

Jo Gajke Bolave so Nihal!!

Sat Shri Akaaaal!!!!

If you have an intense hatred for someone, you constantly think about them.Now I'm not saying that everyone should start intensely hating Vahiguru, that's ridiculous.There has to be a reason for any emotion you feel towards the Divine.

Anyway, I hope you have gained some insight into the mystic tradition.My Love to all of you.

And Jassa, it's not good to hold personal grudges for no good reason against human beings you don't know.Relax.

it is your paap to go against the akal takht not mine. They are the supreme body for the sikhs. anyomne may do paath in their own free time but i maintain that paath on Gur Maharaj da saroop at a gurdwara may only be done by an amritdhari person. This is maryada.

The supreme body of Sikh is Satguru Nanak Nirankar, the God of gods, Lord and Master of Maya.The SGPC do not in any way represent Satguru Nanak, they are heretics.The SGPC are malechh.You have malechh issuing edicts to Satguru Nanak's Sikh from Shri Akal Takht.This is a completely undesirable situation.

Mahakaal will take care of the SGPC.

One more thing Jassa, haven't you thought that the reason why sexy singh doesn't want to name the Gurdwara Sahib is to respect the privacy of the Gurdwara and those who run it?

Akaaaal!!!

true that many amritdharis are pakhandee...

but still this does not take away from the akal takht maryada.

they are the current authority on sikhi. what they say goes.

I do not acknowledge in any way the authority of the heretical SGPC.The SGPC is not an authority on Sikhi.

Perhaps the most extraordinary teaching of the Bhagavata Purana is the Yoga of hatred (samrambha-yoga), according to which a person who thoroughly hates the Divine can achieve God-Realization as readily as one who deeply loves the Lord.Sage Narada, a frequent spokesman for the Bhagavata religion, expresses it thus:

All human emotions are grounded in the erroneous conception of "I" and "mine".The Absolute, the universal Self, has neither "I"-sense nor emotions. (VII.1.23)

Hence one should unite [with God] through friendship or enmity, peaceableness or fear, attachment or love.[The Divine] sees no distinction whatsoever. (VII.1.25)

Narada goes on to mention Kamsa, who reached God through fear, and Shishupala, king of Cedis, who reached God through hatred.

The idea that hatred can turn out to be a pathway to God, shocking as it is to conventional sensibilities, is a logical consequence of the ancient esoteric doctrine that we become whatever we meditate upon.Because of the intense hatred that Shishupala entertained toward Lord Vishnu, he thought about the Divine incessantly, and therefore ultimately became absorbed in it.This brings home the fact that the spiritual process is a matter of the play of attention.

From: Yoga: The Technology of Ecstasy by Georg Feuerstein

Gyaaan!!

Akaaaal!!!!!!

That person who remembers their Creator, be they from any walk of life, that body is a Gurdwara, it is Harimandir.

You can not in reality lose your Gurdwara.Is a brick building the only Gurdwara?

A Guru vala Sikh isn't neccesarily someone who has uncut hair, wears a Patiala style turban etc.

There are very, very few Sikh out there who are truely Amrit-dhari.The rest are pakhandi, they really are.

I suggest sexy singh, that all those who aren't allowed to have a say in the running of the Gurdwara to boycott the Gurdwara.Going to a brick building which has no actual Sadh Sangat in it (Sadh Sangat is always tolerant and does not proselytize) means you could be wasting your time going there.

Forget them, and follow Satguru Nanak Nirankar.

Relax Jassa, it's just a funny name he has chosen for himself on this forum.And stop posting idiotic English (malechh bhasha) translations of Satguru ki Bani out of context and relevance.

Sexy Singh is just being a bit quirky that's all.Nothing wrong in being quirky.Quirky is good in my book.At least I think he's being quirky.

Sexy Singh da lagda, mein thainoo dekhaava sexy kya cheez hundee!!

Now this should get you thinking.According to the Bhagavat Puran, it is possible to become liberated by having angry and hateful (samrambha) thoughts towards the Divine.In essence you become or go back to that which you constantly think about, even if you think about something in hatred.

http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org/canto3/Can...t/chapter2.html

Text 24

manye 'surân bhâgavatâms trydhîs'e

samrambha-mârgâbhinivishtha-cittân

ye samyuge 'cakshata târkshya-putram

amse sunâbhâyudham âpatantam

manye: I think; asurân: the demons; bhâgavatân: great devotees; tri-adhîs'e: unto the Lord of the threes; samrambha: enmity; mârga: by the way of; abhinivishtha-cittân: absorbed in thought; ye: those; samyuge: in the fight; acakshata: could see; târkshya-putram: Garuda, the carrier of the Lord; amse: on the shoulder; sunâbha: the wheel; âyudham: one who carries the weapon; âpatantam: coming forward.

TRANSLATION

I consider the demons, who are inimical toward the Lord, to be more than the devotees because while fighting with the Lord, absorbed in thoughts of enmity, they are able to see the Lord carried on the shoulder of Garuda, the son of Târkshya [Kas'yapa], and carrying the wheel weapon in His hand.

http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org/canto3/Can.../chapter16.html

TEXT 26

sri-bhagavan uvaca

etau suretara-gatim pratipadya sadyah

samram bha-sambhrta-samadhy-anubaddha-yogau

bhuyah sakasam upayasyata asu yo vah

sapo mayaiva nimitas tad aveta viprah

sri-bhagavan uvaca: the Supreme Personality of Godhead replied; etau: these two doorkeepers; sura-itara: demoniac; gatim: the womb; pratipadya: obtaining; sadyah: quickly; samrambha: by anger; sambhrta: intensified; samadhi: concentration of mind; anubaddha: firmly; yogau: united with Me; bhuyah: again; sakasam: to My presence; upayasyatah: shall return; asu: shortly; yah: which; vah: of you; sapah: curse; maya: by Me; eva: alone; nimitah: ordained; tat: that; aveta: know; viprah: O brahmanas.

TRANSLATION

The Lord replied: O brahmanas, know that the punishment you inflicted on them was originally ordained by Me, and therefore they will fall to a birth in a demoniac family. But they will be firmly united with Me in thought through mental concentration intensified by anger, and they will return to My presence shortly.

TEXT 31

mayi samram bha-yogena

nistirya brahma-helanam

pratyesyatam nikasam me

kalenalpiyasa punah

mayi: unto Me; samrambha-yogena: by practice of mystic yoga in anger; nistirya: being liberated from; brahma-helanam: the result of disobedience to the brahmanas; pratyesyatam: will come back; nikasam: near; me: Me; kalena: in due course of time; alpiyasa: very short; punah: again.

TRANSLATION

The Lord assured the two Vaikuntha inhabitants, Jaya and Vijaya: By practicing the mystic yoga system in anger, you will be cleansed of the sin of disobeying the brahmanas and within a very short time return to Me.

I will be posting more on this later.But first I'll let the initial shock (for some of you) to settle.

Oooo, I really hate that Parbrahm. :shock: