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Actually, Girls dont get much pressure at all in terms of looks, SIkh guys have to deal with the looking different issue from childhood till forever.

If outsiders werent enough, you have some of our own sikh girls saying they dont want to marry a singh.

So Sikh guys get more pressure than girls, parents dont put pressure on girls cos they think that if their kuri doesnt look like ur typical barbie doll, then she is never gonna get married.

I think, changing ur appearance just to please some guy or girl is wrong as the other person should accept you for what u are, not what they want u to be.

That has become a norm in sikh society. Choosing to remove hair isnt ok, if u cut ur hair then you are not a sikh.

"Rehat bina na sikh akhave"

yeah also

rehit pyaree mujhko sikh pyara nahin

we......

gur preet

lol, yea bt we are god loving ppl hehe

ok im the 1st!

well u kno the rehit maryada was made by the top leaders of all the jathebandis including taksal, Sant Gurbachan Singh Ji Khalsa.

And wen Sant Jarnail Singh Ji Bhindrawale's nephew decided to read raag mala in the akal takt, who was it that got him beaten up??

You lot seem to insult the panth with every chance u have, wen at the end of the day, all those singhs that u worship and hope to be like, all stood together to hold the panth together, and instead of really finding out wot they did, u go on wot u have heard from other ppl and make ur own decisions.

The way things are going no wonder the panths falling to pieces coz there are so many singhs who instead of joining together and fighting the real enemy, (the panj chore), we're jus fighting ourselves.

Personally i think that its a blessing that we dnt have Khalistan, i mean if it is meant to happen, then it will. At the moment it isnt, and ppl have to stop blaming India or the Muslims for everything.

If we all agreed on the rehit maryada like those great singhs did at the time of making it, and respected the fact that it says u can practice ur personal sikhi, e.g raag mala, at home, then maybe we wudnt all be arguing on these forums about topics which really aint really gna make a difference.

e.g. is sant jarnail singh ji gna come back?? Wot if he does, how is that gna affect u or ur sikhi???Are u suddenly gna transform into something else??

maas maas kar moorakh jhagarrae giaan dhhiaan nehee jaanai ||

The fools argue about flesh and meat, but they know nothing about meditation and spiritual wisdom.

bt then the next line asks "What is mass??"

koun maas koun saag kehaavai kis mehi paap samaanae ||

What is called meat, and what is called green vegetables? What leads to sin?

gai(n)addaa maar hom jag keeeae dhaevathiaa kee baanae ||

It was the habit of the gods to kill the rhinoceros, and make a feast of the burnt offering.(metaphoric, not literal)

maas shhodd bais nak pakarrehi raathee maanas khaanae ||

Those who renounce meat, and hold their noses when sitting near it, devour men at night.

farr kar lokaa(n) no dhikhalaavehi giaan dhhiaan nehee soojhai ||

They practice hypocrisy, and make a show before other people, but they do not understand anything about meditation or spiritual wisdom.

naanak a(n)dhhae sio kiaa keheeai kehai n kehiaa boojhai ||

O Nanak, what can be said to the blind people? They cannot answer, or even understand what is said.

a(n)dhhaa soe j a(n)dhh kamaavai this ridhai s lochan naahee ||

They alone are blind, who act blindly. They have no eyes in their hearts

maath pithaa kee rakath nipa(n)nae mashhee maas n khaa(n)hee ||

They are produced from the blood of their mothers and fathers, but they do not eat fish or meat.

eisathree purakhai jaa(n) nis maelaa outhhai ma(n)dhh kamaahee ||

But when men and women meet in the night, they come together in the flesh.

(How many of u can truthfully say that u dnt do that above??)

maasahu ni(n)mae maasahu ja(n)mae ham maasai kae bhaa(n)ddae ||

In the flesh we are conceived, and in the flesh we are born; we are vessels of flesh.

giaan dhhiaan kashh soojhai naahee chathur kehaavai paa(n)ddae ||

You know nothing of spiritual wisdom and meditation, even though you call yourself clever, O religious scholar.

baahar kaa maas ma(n)dhaa suaamee ghar kaa maas cha(n)gaeraa ||

O master, you believe that flesh on the outside is bad, but the flesh of those in your own home is good.

jeea ja(n)th sabh maasahu hoeae jeee laeiaa vaasaeraa ||

All beings and creatures are flesh; the soul has taken up its home in the flesh.

abhakh bhakhehi bhakh thaj shhoddehi a(n)dhh guroo jin kaeraa ||

They eat the uneatable; they reject and abandon what they could eat. They have a teacher who is blind.

maasahu ni(n)mae maasahu ja(n)mae ham maasai kae bhaa(n)ddae ||

In the flesh we are conceived, and in the flesh we are born; we are vessels of flesh

giaan dhhiaan kashh soojhai naahee chathur kehaavai paa(n)ddae ||

You know nothing of spiritual wisdom and meditation, even though you call yourself clever, O religious scholar.

maas puraanee maas kathaeba(n)aee chahu jug maas kamaanaa ||

Meat is allowed in the Puraanas, meat is allowed in the Bible and the Koran. Throughout the four ages, meat has been used.

jaj kaaj veeaahi suhaavai outhhai maas samaanaa ||

It is featured in sacred feasts and marriage festivities; meat is used in them

eisathree purakh nipajehi maasahu paathisaah sulathaanaa(n) ||

Women, men, kings and emperors originate from meat.

jae oue dhisehi narak jaa(n)dhae thaa(n) ounh kaa dhaan n lainaa ||

If you see them going to hell, then do not accept charitable gifts from them.

dhae(n)adhaa narak surag laidhae dhaekhahu eaehu dhhin(g)aanaa ||

The giver goes to hell, while the receiver goes to heaven - look at this injustice.

aap n boojhai lok bujhaaeae paa(n)ddae kharaa siaanaa ||

You do not understand your own self, but you preach to other people. O Pandit, you are very wise indeed.

paa(n)ddae thoo jaanai hee naahee kithhahu maas oupa(n)naa ||

O Pandit, you do not know where meat originated.

thoeiahu a(n)n kamaadh kapaahaa(n) thoeiahu thribhavan ga(n)naa ||

Corn, sugar cane and cotton are produced from water. The three worlds came from water

thoaa aakhai ho bahu bidhh hashhaa thoai bahuth bikaaraa ||

Water says, ""I am good in many ways."" But water takes many forms.

eaethae ras shhodd hovai sa(n)niaasee naanak kehai vichaaraa ||2||

Forsaking these delicacies, one becomes a true Sannyaasee, a detached hermit. Nanak reflects and speaks. ||2||

Sorry if i have hurt anyones feelings or said anything wrong. Its time for reflection on ones self and really see the things that we argue about. Wot these arguements really do, how often these SAME arguments/discussions take place.

Is it jus for ego, to show that u are intelligent?? Remember we are nothing, and god has blessed us.

phul chuk maaf

Wjkk wjkf!

aho.......im not planning to take it either, its something which takes alot of time, its not something im gonna rush into

but some people hit the climax of chardi kala at different times, it could be weeks, months or years

Guru Gobind Singh Jis hukam was for everyone who calls themselves a sikh, shud take amrit

head shud be covered at all times

yeah only u kno wen u are ready to, bt u shud really take ur time

What if theres no cloth, shawl, chadar, chunni in sight?

sorry edited my early post.

Wot i mean to say is, thats why it is practical to wear a dastaar

yeah life is wot u make of it. it can either be heaven like or hellish

lol@summeet

Is bhai Nand lal jis bani in the SGGS??

Yet his bani is in the amrit keertan?!?! so u tell me that everyone who sings :

Naasaro Manasoor Gur Gobind Singh

is singing kachi bani??

Gurpreet Singh , from Southall (UK)<--- Dnt Laugh! Im moving soon!

19, gna b 20 in Aug, so makes me a Lion hehe! Studying Comp Sci with AI

My gursikh bhanji is aware everything will be fine she has full faith in waheguroo. She is recovering from the damage that was done to her and her parents.

There are many true gursikhs out there but there are also many pakandis(fake)

I just want to remind you all my question was what should be done about such pakandi (fake) gursikhs singhs?

wjkk,wjkf

I agree totally@pakandi! Well even fakes can become true, all depends on maharajs kirpa.

If uve made the pakhandi aware of how he/she is one, n they dont listen, then uve done as much as u can. Leave it, and if u think he/she is a threat to other singhs/singhnia, u shud let them know

the mind is so evil hana

yeah mind is controlled by 5 chor. The mind then controls our emotions, n our heart etc.

Heart is pure, its jus the mind is soo filthy that it controls that

i dnt c how gurbani cud conflict with guru nanak dev ji.

hoe sikh sir ttopee dhharai || saath janam kushattee hue marai ||

He who as a Sikh places a hat on their head; will be reborn seven times as a leper.

Maybe u shud look to that instead of wot u c in pictures and wot ppl tell u

gurmat is sikhi, living the way the guru granth sahib ji tells u

manmat, is living with wot ur mind tells u - dangerous

gurmukhs live gurmat

manmukhs live manmat

man = mind

hoe sikh sir ttopee dhharai || saath janam kushattee hue marai ||

He who as a Sikh places a hat on their head; will be reborn seven times as a leper.

Thankhaanama Bhai Nand Laal Jee

yeah, i swear the singhs dnt know wot it is anymore. The naamdharis and muslims, they have the skill. Its all about pyar at the end of the day.

My sister learns from this raagi, n he always tells her, u cnt learn alaap etc, like by memorising the sounds, u have to jus let ur pyar come out on the spot.

ANd wen somone sings like that, everyone can feel it 2. Gurmat Sangeet is a beautiful thing, its just sad to c that its becoming a lost art

lol, i dnt c the point in listening to that

yeah she did man, jai thai gung!

erm, I DONT UNDERSTAND!!!! speak english man!

lols erm say wha???

Waheguru ji ka khalsa, waheguru ji ki fateh jio

anyone who attended the recent rainsbai in wolverhampton-uk

will understand the benefit of attending them

it was truly amazing

Waheguru ji ka khalsa, waheguru ji ki fateh ji

lol !! that wot im saying!!!

Bhai Manpreet singh ji( kanpur wale) rocks!

yeah "nahi chodo re baba raam naaaaaaaaaam"!!!

Hes amazing, like wen he was stayin in east london, he did a house programme one evening, n like a group of us stayed afterwards, n we did like nitem n more simran n keertan! was sooo good!