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  1. Tories dump Sikh candidate who touts therapies to turn gay youth straight

    in General Discussion

    Posted · Edited by Xylitol

    Homosexuality was actually included in the DSM (official diagnostic manual of psychiatry and psychology) as a disorder but was later removed for political reasons. There was concern that politicians would use the inclusion of homosexuality within the DSM as an excuse to stigmatize gays. That being said, there is no scientific basis that it is not an illness. Over time the heavy propaganda push from the SJW types has forced society to accept it. Now, their propaganda has reached such an extreme that people cannot even publically say that they think a homosexual lifestyle is wrong without fearing for their jobs.

    Of course, this politician should have been savvy enough to realise that publicly stating such things in today's environment is political suicide. 

     

     

     

     

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  2. Future Of Sikhawareness.com

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    or perhaps they are posting from a work computer which is highly restricted for security reasons and cookies are disallowed so it won't allow you to log on and stay logged on.  I post sometimes from work which is a Canadian government computer and the whole thing run from Ottawa Ontario. So even my IP at work may look like I'm in Ontario and not Nova Scotia where I am. But it's not being deceptive. They set the system up like that to avoid security threats in the DWAN defence wide area network which is the system we use to log on the net. And yes we are allowed to surf on breaks or lunchtime etc. 

    I've noticed that you have a bad habit of replying without bothering to fully read what other people are saying. We are not saying to restrict all guest posts across the board. If the guest identifies themselves then the guest post would be allowed. So just type “-Satkirin” or something at the end or beginning of your post and that’s all you need to do.

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  4. Future Of Sikhawareness.com

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    It's not censorship b/c all are welcome to become members. 

     

    N3O, you see my point above. People post as guests in actuality are not. 

     

    I also think that threads should be made to comply with their topic a bit more strictly. Sometimes  a thread organically evolves into a different discussion. But other times people just start hijacking with their own agendas or people start trolling. They should ideally be split into new topics. But forcing membership will at least stop trolls, who up to this point, have not added anything worthwhile. 

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    Future Of Sikhawareness.com

    in General Discussion

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    Veer, please end the practice of allowing guests to post in any controversial topics. I feel it invites trolls. 

    A way around this might be to open sections of the forum for guests and close off any sections that might have controversial posts to only members. But allow all to view, similar to how Sikh Sangat has it. 

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    Continued Attack On Sikhism By Sikh Missionaries

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    Let’s not forget the fact that the Bani of Dasam Granth Sahib ji is an original source witness to the shaheedi of Guru Tegh Bahadur ji, whose kurbani allowed for the continual survival of Hindu dharm. This really irks many of those with a Hindu cultural imperialist agenda. Again and again we see Indian school textbooks disounting Maharaj’s shaheedi, stating lies about it. Some texts say that he was hung for instigating riots!! Dasam Granth flies in the face of their cultural superiority agenda.

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    Charitropakhyan etc written by Court Poets (historical)

    in Sri Dasam Granth Sahib

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    Oral tradition is valid as evidence. It is our panth’s oral tradition, coming from more than one unbroken lineage of teachers, that all of Dasam Granth Sahib ji is Gurbani. Despite the existence of numerous lineages of teachers, there is not one single contradiction to this point of view. 

     

    Additionally, oral history can have great integrity. So much so, that even the supreme courts in Canada have recognized native oral traditions as providing a substantial evidentiary basis for native land claims. ie. White-owned courts have acknowledged that natives can make a claim on land controlled by whites based on oral evidence alone!!

     

    The oral history is of course in addition to the internal evidence within Dasam Bani that corresponds perfectly to the teachings in Guru Granth Sahib ji and other evidences as well. 

     

    The bottom-line is that the Dasam Granth Sahib’s status as Gurbani IS and has always been the accepted belief of the Khalsa. As the interlopers, the ones who are challenging the accepted belief of the Panth, it is incumbent upon these people to present evidence of their assertions. They have made numerous posts on this forum but I have not seen any actually step forward to provide any substantial evidence for their claims. Anybody can criticize, anybody can say this or that isn’t Bani, but where is the evidence that actually goes beyond mere conjecture?!?!

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    Amrit, Duality, Pany-Payaras

    in Sikhi | Questions and Answers

    Posted · Edited by Xylitol

    Most of the stuff you seem worried about isn’t going to affect your day to day life as Gursikh. And yes, you get tested.Everyone does. But I feel you are in the same mindset that a lot of people are in when they enter the dharm, focusing more on the outer stuff. All fired up about the political and social revolutionary aspects. Nothing wrong with that. But, the relative importance of the outer things to the inner spiritual life is akin to the skin of the almond to the almond itself. 

    There are variations between Gurdwaras as well. Some places are more restrictive while others are not. Some places the sangat is very spiritual minded while other places they are not so far along in the path. 

    You seem to be throwing the baby out with the bathwater over a few things that, for the most part, are unlikely to majorly affect your life much unless you let them. They usually do not directly affect you. 

    Going to sangat everyday is  hugely important for one’s jeevan. But the difference is I go there for my jeevan, not to critique things or look for faults. The ones who go to fight fights usually lose out, while the ones who focus on Naam gain. I’m not saying there aren’t fights worth fighting. But how will you accomplish anything if you fight every fight? 

     

    btw, when I called those things bunk I meant that most of them are not legitimate Sikhi. The majority also happen to not believe in them. 

     

     

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  16. Amrit, Duality, Pany-Payaras

    in Sikhi | Questions and Answers

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    A lot of that stuff is bunk. Some of it isn't. So what? It's about you and the Guru. Same thing I tell people who get upset at Gurdwara politics. You will be tested. They learn to ignore it and focus on their own spirituality. There are people at all spiritual levels walking this path, some are naturally more ignorant than others, some feel a need to lord it over others. The gandh in the world might get you down. But these people are dealing with their own issues and karmas. Our job is to develop our relationship with Guru ji. partly, it's a matter of picking and choosing our battles.

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  19. Amrit, Duality, Pany-Payaras

    in Sikhi | Questions and Answers

    Posted · Edited by Xylitol

    It's not that I won't take Amrit from 5 males.  Because I see them all as just same souls as me, same clay as me.  It's that THEY see me as less than them, as incapable, inferior and by giving into that, I am making a statement that I agree that as a female I am inferior to them because of something I had no control over... my gender.  In my mind, this is no different than casteism and Brahmins thinking they are higher over dalits simply because they were born into a Brahmin body and that the dalit is incapable, low spiritually, etc.  While some of you just can't seem to see past the physical, I can't stop seeing the same light in everyone.  So it's not the idea of taking amrit from males, but the idea those males are perpetuating that I am somehow inferior to them for being in a female body, that they possess some divine light that I don't, that Guru Ji cares more about his Singhs than his Kaurs - to the point that Gurus Light would actually avoid females.  That thought, it just makes me feel dirty inside - I mean if Guru Ji would avoid this body then why should I embrace it and like it?  I hate my body, hate being female, and hate being seen as only incapable, inferior, disgusting and I don't want to feel like this anymore.  I actually want to feel what it's like to have respect from Singhs... to be seen as capable, strong, superior, courageous, spiritual.  I don't want to be seen anymore as incapable, inferior, emotional, dirty, impure, such that Guru Ji's light would even avoid this body.  How can it not be a punishment???    

    You are making a giant presumption on the beliefs of those who serve in the Punj. You are also engaging in all or nothing thinking and overgeneralizing regarding the position of women just based on one or two things.  

    No Sikh that I have ever met sees women the way that you state in your post. You are being emotional and not rational.

    Btw, the kirpan da amrit for women is an old belief of a small minority of Sikhs, but the rest of us believe that it is meant to be Khande Batte da Amrit for both genders. 

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  21. Important Point on Sikh Rehat Maryada (SRM) and Panj Pyare

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    http://m.indiatoday.in/story/jarnail-singh-bhindranwale-congress-sanjay-gandhi-zail-singh/1/204348.html (Admin note: This content may offend viewers, viewers discreation is advised) 

    Propaganda. 

    Here is the true account of what happened, as written by a HINDU MAGISTRATE: https://khojee.wordpress.com/2009/06/02/operation-bluestar-the-gallant-defender-1984-links/

    Additionally, interviews with some of India's own generals show that the general thought that Sant ji was not at all "manufactured" by government.

    Although Sant ji was very strict, in accordance with the needs of the time, he was also known for his compassion: 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3w0d0CIvh4

    Here is the story of his life from yet another perspective, as told by his fellow student at the taksal. Anyone can see that the jeevan he lived was that of a sant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzSt8PI40fc&ab_channel=SARABLOHK

     

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  25. Prof Trilochan Singhs' thoughts on Damdami Taksal

    in Sikh Sampardaaye Section

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    It is not uncommon for a student to study from multiple teachers at different times.

    Sant Sundar Singh ji did study from Sant Bishen Singh, but eventually moved elsewhere to set up his own taksal. This in no way makes their claims about lineage incorrect. For example, Sant Jagjit Singh ji Harkhowal is regarded as student of Sant Jawala Singh ji, but he also spent a lot of time studying from Tanday Wale mahapurkh. 

     

    Additionally, DDT’s claims of lineage are written in granths released during the lifetime of Sant Gurbachan Singh ji.

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