Morpheous

I don't hate those who cut hair. I just request them not to call themselves Sikh. It really defames the sacrifices of Shaheeds and Guru Ji and especially SAHIBZADAS.

I think personalities which shove religious views down people throat DEFAME the most. Don't you think ?

Saying "Bullshit, pure bullshit" - then telling us about shaheeds.

isn't that defaming shaheeds more ?

Bullshit. Pure Bullshit.

When did maharaj give you hukum to talk like that ? where is it written ? Show me ?

The Khalsa Panth is the protector of Dharma, the order of the universe. Its function is to protect God's devotees whatever their religious background is.

Here here to that.

im not even "sikh", sorry.

gone wrong and just why he hasn't, he was a HINDU saint and NOT a sikh saint.

ok you win. i give up.

interesting points Hardeep.

but the i think the thread is not looking at WHY we should keep our hair, its more to do with the definition of a sikh and whether a mona can be called a sikh.

why are gurus pictured always wearing paags and having dhari's

Yes, as "sikhs" we alos bow to Jaidev's bani and accept it as Guru. Have you seen his picture before ?

We do respect monas as long as they don't claim to be Sikh.

Then stop taking money off them to run Gurudwaras.

a bus got me into sikhi. a big red one.

is that legal in the uk ?

lol neo singh, i went on it in November.

you have get out and push the plane half way.....

lol its crazy - you get more leg room in a mini.

You get better manners from Uk police who arrest you(air hostessess are rough)

Your luggage goes in one colour - then comes out another colour.

Sometimes you have to wait in Uzbekwehavecrapdirtytoiletsland for 6 hours.

The animals at london zoo get more tasty food than the passengers on uzbekwearecheapandcheerfulstan.

On arrival, you look out the window,a nd jatt is passing with his tractor and trolley. You laugh to yourself, until you see whats on the trolley..... yes your beloved suitcase!

Overall, i loved it, it was like a mini adventure

Fateh

Ninda is bad but I dont think its anywhere near as bad as cutting kesh.

hmm interesting.

1. Say im a Singh, and i spread rumours about you sleeping around with a kala, and you having an abortion. This gets back to your community, and your whole family are shunned upon, your dad is laughed at. NO body wants to marry you cos they think your a slag.

2. Im a mona who is a good friend of yours and shaves 3 times a week .

YEAH, CUTTING HAIR IS MUCH WORSE.

I am sorry but monas can't be called Sikh. It is one of the bujjar kurehits. Therefore, unacceptable. Read the Sikh code of conduct at www.sgpc.net

In that case stop gurudawaras/commitees should believe this should stop collecting money from monay sikhs - yeah right !

That wouldn't happen. Why?

Because monays are only sikhs when these commitee want them to be, i.e when they need money of them. Scandalous.

Khalsa F - can't you see this ?

If it wasnt for the financial input of the monay sikh sangat - there would be hardly any gurdwaras in the Uk.

It's time to let go of these prejudices and hardlined views. Why? because the world is not as black and white as we would like it to be. There are grey areas, instead of trying to label people to suit your own level of understanding, don't you think its better to relax and chill out on these hardlined views and accept people for who they are rather than trying to force your views upon them?

I feel a sense of fanatacism in your views. why ? because some of your arguements lack reason, they give the impression; "my way or the highway", it might work on other forums, but here things are different, we have pluralistic atmosphere here.

fair enough you do have your views, but theres no need to shove them down our throats.

For those of you calling him names, just because your views are more relaxed doesn't mean you can call other people names ? he is a banda with his views. Why not give him pyare instead of slaps?

Fateh.

KF - you are most welcome to come chill with me(over a class of sukha - shardai if you insist - (i think not))

well that depends what your interpretation of religion is! you decide.

Thats really obsurd, as "sikhism" is supposed to be a "secular" religion. i suppose they might aswell take out the bani written by muslims in the Guru Granth Sahib ji they do prakash of in the inner sanctum. Why do they let that go into the inner sanctum ?

An opportunity to build bridges has been missed by the SGPC.

Never mind.

(oh dear)

aguptkaur

Did you know that with holding evidence concerning the sexual abuse of minors is a criminal offence in the Uk constitution ?

As a law abiding citizen of the United Kingdom, I have reported your IP number to the internet police.

Harpreet

This is NEW EXCLUSIVE PAATH RECORDING that we did just recorded it on wednesday.

http://s24.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=16872TC...MY01ZXDO4IPDGV6

1. Salok mahalla 9,

mundavni mahalla 5,

raagmala

2. Atth chandi Chritar Ustat Barnan

3. Khalsa Rehatnama

4. Gurmantar quote from Siri Guru Sarbloh Granth Paatsahi Dasvee (Ang 642)

5. Kalki Savaiye

6. Braham Kavach

7. Shri Bhagauti Ustoutar

8. Shastar Naam Maala

9. Salok Dumullae da

From Shromani Akaali Panth Buddha Dal Gutka Sahib ( Jathedar Baba Santa Singh Ji 96 Karoree)

Download the file from this server. then unzip it. Its a large file - but definately worth the wait !

Harpreet

Waheguru Ji ka Khalsa Waheguru ji ki fateh !

you tell people to show evidence of pedophilla in buddadal uk then you will consider beleving it... so why dont you show proof of pedophilla in mehta chownk

I see your point, but another way of looking at it is that information about pedophilia is not released to the general public for the protection of the victims ?

But again i see your point, someone could be making it up, its one of those dilemas about releasing information i suppose.

sanatan sikhs

a new religion maybe ?

I heard from an ex student that pedophilia and homosexuality is part of the UK Buddha Dal, is it true????

yes. they are all homosexuals and pedophiles. burn all all of them!

A town called Farlish ?

To any of the sangat who dont know what a farla looks like, there a picture of one on this site

www.boss-uk.org

Why do you want people to know who you are when you walk down the street ?

What is the significance of covering your head at all times ?

What worked for certain mahapurshs may not work for you..everyone is different .... hunna ?

As to controlling your mind..... i think Pheena can help with that. .....

I still am in the process of convincing myelf to wear a dastar

why ?

Famous quotes from Baba Khalsa Fauj Singh

• “Some of the people here are true examples of lundee buchees.â€

• “Some of you just don't understandâ€

• “What is wrong is wrong. What does it have to do with friends. I ahve friends, they cut hair so i tell they can't call themselves Sikhs.â€

• “I don't dance. I never liked dancing.â€

• “Sikhs are only suppose to listen to music related to Gurmat or Panth, this includes Shabads, Dhadis, Kavishers and other music about the Panth. Listening to any other music is wrong. The real problem ...â€

• “i don't speak (admin-cut) but i know some people here who love (admin-cut).â€

• “These stories are false. kooka gurudum is also there so fooling and looting just like others.â€

• “mythological. just like rest of chariters.â€

• “None of them. You don't follow sants and babas as they are only pakhandisâ€

• “There was no anoop kaur. This is all falsehood trying to reduce the greatness of Guru Ji.â€

• “You never recite chandi di vaar. some say it gives bir rus, it tood out every bir rus i had from listening to dhadis. chandi di var is nothing more than a translation from puraans.â€

• “Connect yourself to Gurbani and never read charitropakhyanâ€

Our beloved Khalsa Fauj also says

• “What has to be done is complete submission to Guru Jiâ€

You seem to dictate was is right or wrong for us “Sikhsâ€. You criticise maharajs bani, mahapurshs and other people without proper justification.

The above quotes just show that Ego does get the better of some people.

You are no exception.

Wake up and smell the "bhang"(excuse the pun).

Harps

Lol pheena you know some few idiots will do that(threaten the site), and make the sikh community look like fanatics.