Kam1825

jvalasingh the quotes fromthe Suraj prakash are just copied and elaborations of the Gurbilas Patshahi 10. Yes this story comes up in both granths but if you see Bhai Santokh Singh Ji's writings ont he 6th and 10th Guru fromt he gurbilas which were already written.

From the contact i have had with all the nirmala sants so far from punjab, hardwar and haryana all deny this story to be true. Again with Taksal witht he exception of baba inderjeet singh ji all again deny this story including sant giani mohan singh ji. Udasis are not really up on this topic i asked a few in India and they did not seem to know. It is only the nihangs who believe in this concept.

I am not sure about the Namdharis and hope someone can elaborate on their thoughts on this.

Yes it is accepted that Chandi is the metaphor of Shakti. But it is the shakti and not devi that was pargat for the khalsa. I remember going through Chandi Di Vaar wtith mahapurkh who did the katha as the ballad of Chandis battles then after it finished started again through the antreev. Chandi being Shakti, Mekhaur being Kaam, Sronatbeej being to listent o slander, etc It was all pure vedant but none of the mahapursh other then nihangs i have met believe this story to be as it is but metaphorical!

That would mean Guru Hargobind Ji and Guru Tegh Bahadur Ji Did pargat of a Devi when they went to war

That is a very good point to note. I personally have no belief that Guru Ji did aradhna of the devi for her to become pargat prior to the birth of the khalsa or yudh. They are full belief in akaal purkh and state 'Tehee Durga Saaj Kai Danta Da Naas Karaiya'!

Why would Guru Ji need to do this when their form was of Akaal purkh what is the need of any being when you are superior int he first place. (Aap narayan Kaladhar Jag Mai Parvariyo)

I think this concept is only accepted by the nihang samparda as everyone i have spoken to from the four other sampardas do not accept this notion as all!

Are these not the videos on Gurmatveechar.com?

The best one to use at the moment is

www.jsks.co.in

They have a great range of books and if you email the website owner (Jaspinder Singh Grover) and give hima list of books he will get them fromt he other shops as well. i normally send him money by western union and recieve my books within 7 days. He has never let me down unlike both singh brothers and CSJS.

Check the vedant books on their site they are well worth getting, plus they sell Taksali, Nanaksar and Budha Dal Gutkas

The book can be purchased from Patiala University. i just contact one of the book stores via the net in India, sent the money by money transfer and got it in 7 days by air mail.

There are different thoughts on who the Murshad of Baba Farid ji was, it isdifferent from one source to another.

Makke Madine Di goshti is not the one from the janamsakhi. The one that has been published by Kulwant Singh is by Prithi Chand and the Minas. It is really good and is a question and answer sessio in both Mecca and Medina with Rukamdeen and Shah Sharif. Very deep vedantic topics.

Kave Santokh Singh Ji's Jap Ji Teeka is known as the Garb Ganjni Teeka

Neo only issue with the book is that thereare loads of pages missing. the pages missing are 01 - 11, 44 - 65, 81 - 83 and 90 onwards. ny chance of getting them up

Singh can you not put it on a 4shared drive so everone can have acces. It is free as well

pjs is doing some great seva on Sikhsangat by digitising loads of things and translating katha. Good work indeed

there are too many books to choose from, I think the one thing is now that punjabdigital library have put loads of stuff on the net do you want them in hardback form.

Sore books i would suggests are

Parchian Bhai Addan Shah

Vairag Shatak Steek by Pandit narain Singh Ji

Parbodh Chandar Natak staak by Pandit Narain Singh Ji

Vichar Sagar steek by Pandit Nischal Das

Nirmal Panth Ithaas (2 parts) Dr Parmjit Singh

Pandit Tara Singh Narotam Jeevan Te Rachna by Dr Parmjit Singh

All steeks by Sant Surjit Singh Ji Sevapanthi

All books by Giani Balwant Singh Ji Kotha Guru Walae

Guvak Chanan, Gurparkaran Granth and Gurithaas Savaiyai by Sant Hari Singh Randhawae Wale

Makke Madine Di gosht by Kulwant Singh

All books by Piara Singh Padam

The list could go on. Do you want historical, steeks, vedant, kaav rachna?

Mighty kaur judging by your agenda you must have starred in one of the Charritars, stirring trouble, those Charittars were a warning against venomous trecherous troubled women like you!

Mighty Kaur just to keep you updated with the views of the forum: YOU CHAT SHIT!!!!!!

I would like to listen to his katha to be honest. let me know if you get any recordings. Can you put a few links up for us as well

Do you have any recordings of him then? i have been lokking for some so we can get them on the net?

No idea what the taksalis are doing. i suggest just downloading it off www.gurmatveechar.com

Tony it is true there is a harcore group of Taksalis who continue to believe Sant ji are still here in their form and were never Shaheed. That is not my viewpoint but alot of them believe it and due to this will not move on for a long long time. Sad but it is true.

If someone calls the Sri Dasma Granth as Sri Guru Dasam Granth i accept they are say It is Sri Guru Dasam (Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji's) Granth. I personally believe it to be the rachna of Sri GUru Gobind Singh Ji but the Guru is Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji.

He is from birmingham. He does the santhiya and katha classes in the midlands.

Mighty Kaur you chat some shit!

Bhai baldeep Singh Ji is the Singh reciting the paath he is a student of 'Sodhi' who was a student of Sant Gurbachan Singh ji

Below are 7 videos fromt he Sri Dasam Granth Paath Bhog on the 23rd of Dec 09 for Baba Thakur Singh ji's Barsi.

Part 01

Part 02

http://www.youtube.com/user/MrKam1825#p/u/5/s4oxHHJSWJw

Part 03

http://www.youtube.com/user/MrKam1825#p/u/4/bwaPtm8l0V4

Part 04

http://www.youtube.com/user/MrKam1825#p/u/0/_6vdTxLrezc

Part 05

http://www.youtube.com/user/MrKam1825#p/u/3/CAQ4U_WbDHo

Part 06

http://www.youtube.com/user/MrKam1825#p/u/2/xsVM7T6j-SE

Part 07

http://www.youtube.com/user/MrKam1825#p/u/1/eQLU3MzWIgY

Enjoy

Quick thread. here is a short speech by Singh Sahib Giani Ram Singh Ji Hazoor Sahib Walae talking about the Sri Dasam Granth. This video is from the Barsi of Baba Thakur Singh Ji 2009 in Willenhall, UK

The link is below

Enjoy

Kam1825, is the mahalla 10 to be uchaar'ed then?

if it is in the granth or the paath being read then you should read it however the modern day printed saroops do not contain the words mahalla 10 so we do not recite it. We cannot recite what is not there however if you are at a akhand paath where it states in the granth mahalla dasva then you are to utter it. I hav only heard it once in my life.

All mahapurkh accept that this is the salok of Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji and the taksali mahapursh state it should have remained in the form that Maharaj uttered the bani. I think both Bhai Mani Singh and Baba Deep Singh ji would not put Mahalla 10 into their granths if Guru gobind Singh ji did not do so themselves when at Damdama Sahib

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