Kam1825

three things i would love to see in 50 years time.

1) For Nankana Sahib to be the gretest attraction of the world. for it to be as clean as any other sikh shrine. this was the place where nirankar decided to come back to earth. Also live 24 hours raag kirtan coming live from there.

2) To be able to visit mecca, and baghdad where guru nanak dev ji went and having something put up in their name to commemorate their great achievments so that the islamic nation will give the respect to guru nanak dev ji that they deserve. To make the gurdwara in baghdad well known and show its splender to the world.

3) Create a modest but beautiful gurdwara in Khurm Iran where bhai Mardana the humble great soul left the earth while having their head on the feet of guru granth sahib ji. To fine the grave that guru nanak dev ji created for them and preserving the great name of a disciple that no one else could ever match.

i have been tasked along with a few others to try and find ways of making these things possible for the future generations and would appeal for any help and advice that i could get from here or any other forums to make these places have the glory that they deserve for the famous sakhis and indiviuals of Gods great faith.

one thing to remember is that they go by a month in lunar terms which makes every month 28 days and equal. month starts at new moon and ends with it.

what the numbers are is 6 malas of 108 beads of mool mantra or

10 paaths of japji sahib or;

2 paaths of sukhmani sahib daily on top of your daily nitnem, rehraas, aartee, aarta and kirtan sohila is the equivalent to doing one akhand paath per month.

right this is the chaupai from the nanaksar gutka

chupai

bahur asur ka katas matha...

kabyo bach choupai

hamri karo hath dae racha...

aril

sunnai gung jo yahi...

choupai

sanbat satrah sahas...

choupai

mai na ganesah pritham manaoo..

kabio bach dohra

jo nij prab mo so kaha so kahiho...

kabio bach dohra

thad bhayo mai jor kar

dohra

dasam katha baghot kee...

savaiya

dhan jio tih ko jag mai mukh...

dohra

ram katha jug jug atal...

choupai

jo ih katha sunnai or gavai..

dohra

sadh asadh jano nahi...

savaiya

panh gahay jab tay...

dohra

sagal dwar ko chad...

the following is the choupai sahib from the rehraas from the giani mohan singh gutka

choupai

punn rachas ka kata sisa...

kabyo bach choupai

hamri karo hath dae racha...

aril

sunnai gung jo yahi...

choupai

sanbat satrah sahas...

dohra

das jan kar das par kijjai..

choupai

mai na ganesah pritham manaoo..

kabio bach dohra

jo nij prab mo so kaha so kahiho...

dohra

har harijan dui ik hai bib...

dohra

jab aies prabh ko bhayo...

kabio bach dohra

thad bhayo mai jor kar

dohra

jay jay tumray dhian ko...

dohra

kal purakh kee deh moh kotak...

dohra

ram katha jug jug atal...

choupai

jo ih katha sunnai or gavai..

dohra

netr tang ke charan tar...

dohra

sadh asadh jano nahi...

savaiya

panh gahay jab tay...

dohra

sagal dwar ko chad...

i will put the bhudda dal one on tomorrow also regarding the aarti and aarta i will open a new thread and do that.

i am sorry for the delay i will try to do this for all tonight as i am currently with baba amar singh ji for the day.

give me 24 hours and i promise it will be up.

Bhudda Dal starts off with

dohra

mahakaal kaal ki saran jay paray laiy bahayai

ill find the nihang and nanaksar gutkas for tomorrow

why has it gone from sant niranjan singh ji to bhai niranjan singh ji?

does anyone know!

will do if you go to rara sahib they know alot as it is close by

Dhakki sahib was actually uninhabitable before baba darshan singh jis arrival. The people that lived there used to be beaten by ghosts.

at their requst baba ji went there and started doing bhagti. they used to be hit whilst doing bani i have seen the bruises it was not pretty.

they carried on for about a year and a half then they got a hukam to start bringing animals there. the reason for this was that the animals would give birth to off spring and baba ji could put these ghosts back into the cycle of birth and death

when i went there in 1996 there were loads of elephants and lion cubs as well as other animals.

baba ji are very strict with rehit and would not allow anyone to bow before them in respect.

they would tell people to go and pay respects of the sants at rara sahib as they were more spiritually accomplised.

They are also expert hores riders and carry many shasters.

they are a truely blessed soul.

I have lots of literature about them will try to put it on soon.

i dont think it exists it takes hours and hours in proper gauree raag. i would take at least four hours.

i dont think it has been performed in such a way since satta and balwand performed it.

ask the nihangs i think they might be able to get bhai balbir singh ji to do it.

fantastic stuff. Is dhakki sahib back up and running. last time i went the police had raided it and taken baba ji and all their sevaks away under the charge that they may become another Sant Jarnail Singh Ji and bring an uprising in the Punja.

I heard that the sant smaj tried through many efforts and eventually they were released.

proves what most of us already belive in that the raag mala is bani and will always be.

shame that people like taja singh bhasuria created this sort of confusion along with other people who were paid by the british

whats a shiv ling

The reason why people state Darbar instead of Granth is due to all Bani being 'Mukhvaak' from the Guru's themselves.

Esp the bani from the dasam and sarbloh granth,

Some groups claim that when the bani of the granths is being recited you are actually placed in the Darbar of the Guru listening to the Guru say these divine words.

That is what i got told when i questioned it

Not a bab answer at all i think