Lucky

That's real good !

I was under the impression chakras are at the back of the spine, if indeed that's what was activating. These felt more inside and towards the front.

I think that they are felt more deep and in the core rather than back of the spine.

I assume that the crown chakra is experienced over a wider area than the other chakras like the base chakra that Bhagatji describes above.

At the back of the spine is when burning sensations can be felt that I think are associated with the activating kundalini !

Whatever job you do, try to make it the company of sadh sangat.

This is the company or dealing with people that can help promote the gurmat sikhi within you.

It doesn't have to be the company of Sikhs in their bana, it can be he simple company of people wanting your help or one's that rely on your expertise. In these cases you should act in the best of their interests that helps your own spiritual growth.

I know that it is very difficult in many situations where you work for someone and they only guarantee your employment if you guarantee financial gain at anyone else's expense but that which helps your manager gain. In these cases you may be acting in the best interests of your employer and not the client/customer, for example.

No, I never won no lottery but I know plenty of people that haven't won and still don't have a need for kirat kamayee !

what if you are living off the lottery and don't need to work ?????

Some good thoughts Bhagatji- I agree !!!

Having the personal 'uniqueness' is what makes even more special.

Personally, I have come across some very negative and derogatory views with regards to yoga techniques.

I notice that it is the lack of awareness that causes these inhibitions towards trying or acknowledging.

I am currently exploring many different yoga exercises and techniques and funny enough, I have found that i can easily adapt them to make them 'Gurmat' for my own personal development.

Just wanted to add an important note to this stage. DO NOT LOOK at this colour, simply open the eyes and the colour we disappear. My mind is entering the stage of illusion to draw me in and distract me so to hinder the progress.

May Waheguru guide us all safely to his lotus feet.

I think that one should acknowledge the colours or other experiences that occur instead of turning away and doing a u-turn.

To be able to accept,acknowledge and ignore in the sense it doesn't affect your concentration is the goal in my opinion.

Just like a ride on any journey, i think that you encounter a lot of distractions and obstacles along the way. However, to acknowledge and look at exactly what comes in the way and then to move on and leave it behind should be the goal for each of us.

From colours, sounds, sensory perceptions, visions and vibrations, -these all seem to be part of the journey.

Just like a car journey, one should not stop, reverse or try and pass with eyes shut.

We should camly accept it as a confirmation that the path approach is the correct one and these are just reassurances or distractions that are and will be destined ahead for each of us.

Even feelings of fear can appear such as being thrown into some vortex where it may apear as if one is being sucked into some other unknown dimension. It is the unknown that gives the ego this fear and makes you want to pull back.

Just keep the dhian on waheguru no matter what and who comes in the way or tries to cross the path.

I believe that Nanak ji is not recommending or suggesting the nostril practice.-

-Lucky, in fact, He is suggesting this, as do other authors of SGGS like Sant Kabir, who also recommends breath control.

The described breathing is about helping one to attain the ''steadiness''

Are we saying that steadiness is only achieved if the breathing practice is actioned ?

This described steadiness is in terms of getting into the middle or the balance between sun and moon, warm and cold energies...etc.

Guruji seems to saying that one can get into the middle or balanced state directly with pure dhian and focus.

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It's all about trying to keep your focus ''Within' yourself to keep the dhian on simran.

Yoga techniques can help in this sense by letting you use the gurmantar, dhian and listening to all the 'Within' that happens inside you.,,,

Breathing technique give by Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji on Ang 991.

Heat up the sun energy of the right nostril, and cool down the moon energy of the left nostril; practicing this breath-control, bring them into perfect balance.

soor sar sos lai som sar pokh lai jugat kar marat so san-banDh keejai.

In this way, the fickle fish of the mind will be held steady; the swan-soul shall not fly away, and the body-wall will not crumble.

meen kee chapal si-o jugat man raakhee-ai udai nah hans nah kanDh chheejai.

You fool, why are you deluded by doubt?

moorhay kaa-ichay bharam bhulaa.

You do not remember the detached Lord of supreme bliss. Pause

nah cheeni-aa parmaanand bairaagee. rahaa-o

Seize and burn the unbearable; seize and kill the imperishable; leave behind your doubts, and then, you shall drink in the Nectar.

ajar gahu jaar lai amar gahu maar lai bharaat taj chhod ta-o api-o peejai.

In this way, the fickle fish of the mind will be held steady; the swan-soul shall not fly away, and the body-wall shall not crumble.

meen kee chapal si-o jugat man raakhee-ai udai nah hans nah kanDh chheejai.

Nanak humbly prays, if the Lord`s humble servant dwells upon Him, in his mind of minds, with his every breath, then he drinks in the Ambrosial Nectar.

bhanat naanak jano ravai jay har mano man pavan si-o amrit peejai.

In this way, the fickle fish of the mind will be held steady; the swan-soul shall not fly away, and the body-wall shall not crumble.

meen kee chapal si-o jugat man raakhee-ai udai nah hans nah kanDh chheejai.

I believe that Nanak ji is not recommending or suggesting the nostril practice.

The balance and steadiness can be obtained with normal 2 way nostril breathing!

Well, I wouldn't say that I have the same impression any longer !

I firmly believe that these jugtees and techniques can help us all.-as longer as we keep it within gurmat boundaries.

Maybe because the T-squares were not calibrated properly, so all the right-angles were off !!!

Don't say that for God;s sake! Don't mention the english or thousands of jat tongues may instinctively gravitate towards their white arses........ : o

Bach ke!!

What ???

You seem to sound just as racist as any other real Brit !!

No, I don't think it was anything like this back in 70's/80's, for that matter 50's and 60's as well - since that's when my family first came !

On 4/6/2013 at 6:50 PM, GtLoc said:

It's because we've taken to acting like Muslims, something not even Punjabi muslims used to do; we're caught up in tamougan aka ignorance and who besides jihadis has the prize for that?

Yep, very true. We are so close to having our own commercial taliban that the whole world can know about

I know this problem is big and really annoying, especially in UK

Not as far as I know, but Dalsingh's work on this thread is marvellous and valuable for all of us

does anyone know if SGGS teeka by Prof sahib singh has been translated - word per word in english??

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On 3/23/2013 at 1:41 PM, Xylitol said:

The sweetness of Amrit russ comes before opening of the dasam dwar. It's normal and happens when a person meditates for a long time. It can go away if a person leaves meditation. It's definitely not metaphorical.

yep

There is as much common with christianity and judaism as there is with hinduism.

I've been enjoying watching 'The Bible' tv series that is smashing the viewing ratings in the last few weeks on the history channel.

For those of you not too aware, it is worth seeing and I would recommend it.

Chatangaji and Neoji are both very spot on with the funeral and death issue.

It really makes no difference of what happens after death depepnding on how you conduct the funeral or who lights the torch !

Infact, it does state in the maryada that a sikh's body should be cremated and a reading done from the Guru Granth Sahibi ji within 10 days (akhand or sehaj paath)

However,it does state that if a creamtion is not possible diue to geographical or other circumstances then other means may be used such as disposing in flowing water or a burial- but without any such tombstone or landmark.

I think there is some confusion with understanding catholics here.

Just as much as we may think that virgin mary statue may be an idol in the same way they think that the pictures of gurus we have are idols !

-The fact is that we are both very wrong !

Some Similarities between Catholicism and Sikhism:

* Catholicism and Sikhism both teach that God is One

* Catholicism and Sikhism teach that God is inexpressible and beyond understanding

* Catholicism and Sikhism both teach that God is everywhere and in everything, that creation is filled with his Presence and that "God is All" (Book of Sirach).

* And yet for Sikhs and Catholics, whilst creation is permeated with the presence and reality of God, he is in all things without being contained by them or limited to them, indeed he both indwells all created things and at the same time transcends them as their ultimate origin and Creator

* Because of this both religions teach that creation is good, the world is good, reality is good and that every place is a meeting point with God and provides us with an opportunity to be in his Presence.

* Catholicism and Sikhism both believe in the brotherhood of all human beings ie that all humanity is one

* Catholicism and Sikhism both believe in the equality of all human beings

* Catholicism and Sikhism both place great emphasis upon the Will of God. This emphasis on following the "Will of God", in Catholicism, as known to one through the dictates of conscience and one's faith to attain to a state of union with God (salvation) rather than "faith alone" as in Islam and Protestantism (where one must generally be a member of these respective religions to attain to "salvation", or go to paradise in Islam) is an important similarity

* Heaven and Hell are defined in both traditions as not being literal "places" but rather spiritual states that can be experuenced in the here and now. Pope Benedict XVI explained that "Heaven is not a place, it is wherever God's Will is done". In Catholicism heaven is within us, a state of mind and being that extends into eternity. Heaven and Hell are subjective human experiences of the Same Divine Reality - God.

* Catholicism and Sikhism both teach that all human beings have their origin in God and that he is our ultimate end. We will all return to Him. In Catholic tradition we all experience the Presence of God after death. As the Catholic declaration Nostra Aetate explains: "All men and women form but one community. This is so because all stem from the one stock which God created to people the entire earth (cf. Acts 17:26), and also because all share a common destiny, namely God. His providence, evident goodness, and saving designs extend to all".

* The Ultimate state in both traditions is complete Union with and absorption into God. The Catholic mystics describe this, in the words of Saint Bernard as follows, "...There is a point of rapture where the human spirit forgets itself . . . and passes wholly into God. Such a process is to lose yourself, as it were, like one who has no existence, and to have no self-consciousness whatever, and to be emptied of yourself and almost annihilated. As a little drop of water, blended with a large quantity of wine, seems utterly to pass away from itself and assumes the flavour and colour of wine, and as iron when glowing with fire loses its original or proper form and becomes just like the fire; and as the air, drenched in the light of the sun, is so changed into the same shining brightness that it seems to be not so much the recipient of the brightness as the actual brightness itself: so all human sensibility in the saints must then, in some ineffable manner, melt and pass out of itself, and be lent into the Will of God...To experience this state is to be deified..."

* Both traditions have strong moral teachings against abortion and euthanasia, since both uphold the sanctity of life.

* Both believe that salvation or union with GOD is "open to all" and not just Catholics/Sikhs. God enlightens all people.

* Both traditions believe that there is inspired truth, goodness and grace to be found in all world religions

* Both traditions believe in the underlying unity of all religions

* Sikhism believes that there is no separation between daily life and holiness. There is no division between the profane and sacred. The Adi Granth tells us that, "Spiritual liberation is attained in the midst of laughing, playing, dressing up and eating..." - Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji, p 522. Catholicism teaches the same. “There is something holy, something divine, hidden in the most ordinary situations, and it is up to each one of you to discover it. Our ordinary everyday life can be a path to holiness...It is in the midst of the most material things of the earth that we must sanctify ourselves, serving God and all mankind...We cannot live a kind of double life: on the one hand, an interior life, a life of union with God; and on the other, a separate and distinct professional, social and family life. There is just one life, made of flesh and spirit. And it is this life which has to become, in both soul and body, holy and filled with God. Side by side with our colleagues, friends and relatives and sharing their interests, we can help them come closer [to God],” said St. Josemaría Escriva, founder of Opus Dei. Catholics believe that we sanctify God through our work and through the everyday of activities of life and NOT outside of this.

On 3/19/2013 at 2:20 AM, Sat1176 said:

This one ?

http://www.vidhia.com/Bhai%20Randheer%20Singh%20Ji/Anhad-shabad-dasam-duar.pdf

Loads of other books on this website.

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I'm not too sure that some are getting mixed up with what's what.

According to my experience, I think the order is first with third eye opening, then kundalini beginning to awaken and then after this and many steps later, the anhad shabad of the dasam duar opening.