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5 Corporate Lessons from Guru Nanak.

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On 4/10/2015 at 10:25 PM, Ragmaala said:

@truthseeker, satkirin

 

When Mata Sulakhni Ji ( wife of Guru Nanak) asked Guru Nanak for the blessing of sons, she was blessed with two cloves as a blessing. The prashad/blessing in the form of cloves lead to birth of Sri Chand Ji and Lakhmi Chand Ji. You may find this in the katha of Suraj Prakash Granth by Kavi Santokh Singh Ji.

 

There are many concepts in Sikhi which are very subtle and not apparent at first. This understanding only comes after the company of Saints, Mahapurakhs and spiritually elevated beings through their physical presence, books, biographies, discourses or a personal experience.

 

Nirankar/God took the sargun form of Guru Nanak and 9 Gurus. The idea was to lead by example. They led a householders life to teach us. But that does not mean that Guru operates the same way as we do. We simply cannot fathom the workings of our Guru whether he hunted, had more than one wife, sacrificed himself for Truth, sat in a basement for 28 years etc etc.

 

Gurbani teaches us to follow the teachings of the Guru , but not to emulate Guru. We simply cannot copy our Guru. Guru operates in mysterious ways beyond our understanding. Gur Kaheya so kaar kamavo Gur ki karni kahe dhavo.

 

When Guru Nanak disappeared there was no physical body left, Same thing happened when Guru Arjan Dev Ji and Guru Gobind Singh Ji disappeared, no physical bodies were found. Same things happened when sons of Guru Gobind Singh were martyred, their bodies simply disappeared for a while. So what can we say about the physical body of a Guru ?

 

If we cannot understand the physicality of Guru, how can we compare Guru to a normal human being and say that he had a body, enjoyed bodily pleasure and engaged to have kids. This sentiment is shared by all the highly elevated spiritual beings like Baba Nand Singh Ji etc etc and many other Gursikhs. You might not find it written in many books.

 

Gurbani also says that liberated ones do not come into the cycle of birth and death.

The birth of a elevated spiritual being is different than the rest of humans. This applies to great saints.

The body of child is created in womb for 9 months, everything is happening like a normal human baby. When the baby is delivered, the atma/soul/jeev/spiritual being enters the body at that time. That already liberated being does not have to spend 9 months in the womb.

 

And Guru is not even born, nor does he go anywhere. He has been present since the beginning, in the present and for the future. Satguru mera sada sada na aave na jaave. Guru is ever present , he neither comes nor goes.

 

These sentiments are not my own personal or indvidual opinions or feelings. But this is a common sentiment shared by many saint traditions like Nanaksar Samparda, Damadami Taksal, Rara Sahib etc etc.

I do not have links for you where you can read up on such things, but maybe other posters may have sources that provide a written evidence.

 

 

 

 

You seem to be reading Alif Laila stories a lot lately...

5 hours ago, tva prasad said:

"In the center of a busy Calcutta roundabout stands a 12-foot bronze statue of a celebrated freedom fighter, hanged by the British in 1909. The British called this man, and others in a violent nationalist movement trying to force the British from India, “gentleman terrorists” because of their education and high caste status."

http://news.cornell.edu/stories/2018/01/historian-examines-indias-gentlemen-terrorists 

Does struggling for freedom make these men terrorists? As you can clearly see the people of India viewed these men as freedom fighters, while the oppressive British government called them "gentleman terrorists". The kharkus were fighting for freedom under the regime of the Congress government, who called the kharkus "terrorists". Therefore, you are siding with the oppressive congress government of the time by calling kharkus "terrorists". 

Wow! Then what makes you think that the innocent Hindus killed by the kharkoos were not innocent?

On 9/14/2018 at 11:01 PM, chatanga1 said:

don't think that a coward who soiled his knickers in a fight will drag anyone anywhere.

Ha ha

He is. 

On 9/15/2018 at 7:29 AM, tva prasad said:

How do you know those hindus were innocent.

So subjective, how do you know Kharkoos are not terrorists? 

2 minutes ago, tva prasad said:

You got to be serious. 

Blood was spilled in 1984 to nourish the khalsa spirit.  Every few decades this happens to keep the "plant" of sikhism alive, so have I heard. Just like when Guru Tegh Bahadur ji spilled his blood to protect dharam, shaheeds spill blood to revive the khalsa spirit. 

You do realise that everything waheguru does has a much deeper reason for it than a brainwashed person like you can fathom, right?

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Wow! you guys have justification for each and everything. So big talks, only because nobody for your family was raped and brutally killed. 

Awesome! women are raped to nourish and revive Sikhi. God forbid, next time if any woman from your family is raped, hope you don't file a case for justice because it all happened for good cause.

This is poojari wala rabb, which Dhadriawala rejects in his talks.

11 hours ago, Ragmaala said:

Sometimes I feel sorry for him, but what to do , such is Life.

Ha ha ! don't be sorry yet,  wait and watch, he will be dragging all your mystical sant, brahmgyanis, mahapurkhs, vidya martands etc. in the arena 

22 hours ago, tva prasad said:

He came to my dad's friend's house, when I was a little child. Even though, I knew nothing about him since I didn't watch or listen to his DvD's, I sensed some falseness about him when he came. He lacked a spiritual vibe, which I expected him to have as he was called "Sant". I was quite disappointed and was thinking he could be a fake Sant. 

However, on the other hand, when Giani Thakur Singh Ji came to our house, I was still a child and never listened to him, I sensed spiritual vibes around him. He seemed like an honest preacher. 

What kind of spiritual vibes are you looking for? Do you really think good people carry some Auras around their head or vibes around them?

If this is the case, why Lehna Ji didn't immediately recognize Guru Nanak in their first meeting? Didn't he receive strong vibes?

On 9/13/2018 at 8:28 AM, angy15 said:

You will never find good abt him in this forum.top members of this forum's are taksali influenced and believe that there beliefs is the real teaching .

Right, I already suggested last year to change this forum's name to Brahmanwaad Ver 2.0. These people have their own version of Sikhi.

See this:

On 9/13/2018 at 10:23 AM, paapiman said:

So, according to you, what will happen to a person if he changes his title?

Does changing the title from Sant to Bhai will somehow magically make a person more Gurmukh?

 

Bhul chuk maaf

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Similarly, adding great prefixes such as 108, Vidya Martand, Brahmgyani,  Mahapurkh, etc. won't either.

14 hours ago, Singh123456777 said:

So you question the hukam of akaal purkh?

Nope, I am questioning your dumb Mahapurkh.

On 9/11/2018 at 6:57 PM, Singh123456777 said:

This was all maharajs hukam. I knew of Sants and Mahapurkhs who knew this was gonna happen, but due to Maharajs hukam they could not do anything.

There was a sakhi of Bhagat Fareed Ji, where he saw a dam that was about to break and spread its water in the pind and kill people. He told the wall to stay standing, but maharaj told him that the wall breaking is all in hukam. So he then left the wall like that.

Wow! What an achievement. Kudos to Mahapurkh that he knew that the women would get raped on the streets of Delhi. Still, he didn't feel the need to warn poeple by acting dump, just to please God.

What if this Mahapurkh come to know in advance that his mother and sisters would get raped and brutally killed, would he still be Mute?

Why do we go out on the streets every year for 84 justice? Wouldn't they say is all your Maharaj's hukam?

12 hours ago, Singh123456777 said:

According to Sri Gur Partap Sooraj Granth, Guru Nanak Dev Ji and Guru Gobind Singh Ji both had janam pataris made from jotishs. 

Please read my question again. 

On 8/1/2018 at 4:29 PM, Garry13 said:

Don't know if this is the right forum, but want to let all the sikhs know that anti-sikh propaganda is in full flow on Wikipedia especially relating to 80's & 90's punjab massacres by showing all sikhs that were killed as militants. The objective obviously is to show sikhs who were (and are) fighting for separate state as anti-national and terrorists. This is going on from India. Have a look at this editor's edit history: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/DBigXray&target=DBigXray

I am sorry, but in DEMOCRACY, anyone possessing illegal arms, guns etc. and killing innocent people (It's well known that innocent Hindus were killed in 80s by pulling out from the buses in Punjab by khadkoos) are known as militants and terrorists. Period.

Only if they could use their brains and constitutionally fight for the rights, the story would have been be altogether different. 

On 8/19/2018 at 3:50 AM, Daya Singh said:

Vaheguru Jee ka khalsa vaheguru Jee kee fateh 

Hazur sahib maryada is awesome I would just like an open discussion with all the Sangat on this forum about what you think of hazur sahib maryada and. Personally I think it's brilliant and when I visited takkht sahib there is a feeling which cannot be experienced anywhere else.

Bhull chuk Muaaf jee 

Interesting. Could you please elaborate. What did you find awesome in them?

Do you think their specialities should be adopted by all other gurudwaras?

7 hours ago, paapiman said:

 

 

This is nature's way of saying: "Logic wins over Magic". 

On 11/3/2017 at 2:59 PM, Singh123456777 said:

My thoughts have changed since 2015, after reading granths like Nanak Parkash, where Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji’s janam patri(astrological paper) was read to Sri Guru Angad Dev ji and other countless things in other granths. I now believe it is a science which can help benifit a person’s sikhi if that person uses the knowledge wisely. For example if by going to an astrologer and finding something bad is gonna happen, we could do naam simran to lessen the damage or eradicate if fully. The astrology is just a simple guide to our life of events that will unfold, but the true guru is the real changer. The true guru can change your future in an instant.

Nobody, not a single person, predicted 84 riot before it happened, otherwise, mass killing and rape could have been prevented. But, some may argue that pandits didn't want to benefit Sikhs, then what about utranchchal floods?

No pandit, sadhu, sant, brahmgyani, jyotshi, pandit, astrologer etc. predicted Uttranchal floods which killed thousands. 

Is this jugti only exist to benefit criminals?

9 hours ago, Soulfinder said:

I remember a saakhi from Sant Partap Singh Ji Ilford Uk Karamsar Gurdwara Wale around 8/9 years back now this was when i was sitting in the kirtain divan hall.

 

From what i remember from it and how it relates to this thread is important.

 

There was a Sant called Sant Baba Sundar Singh Ji (not Damdami Taksal wale these are another one).

 

So in their jawani young age Sant Ji always used to get into trouble with the police due to their anger attuide fighting etc. As their i think thiya/chacha ji was a halwdar they would be always free from the hawalaat. 

 

So one day his parents asked a pandit hand reader to find out his future kismat as they were always in trouble most of the time. When found out it was written 20 years jail was in their kismat life.

 

Hearing this Sant Ji was shocked as who wouldn't. So they decided to paaths of Sri Jap Ji Sahib around 100/120 (can't remember extact count now) everyday and other paaths etc.

 

One day came they wanted to make a gurdwara or was it someone who requested them so they didn't take permission from the maharaja of patiala as old habbits don't leave a person. 

 

They said in punjabi that they are only going to make a gurdwara so what ? 

 

This however led them into jail for 20 days as it was a criminal offence back then. So after 20 days they were free and i can't remember the rest but i think they were told this was a reduced cut of their 20 years punishment by all the bhagati they had done. 

 

 

So the moral of this story is that by visting a pandit hand reader etc they life had changed a lot and how gurbani and hand reading worked hand in hand as 20 years became 20 days.

 

Why didn't Guru Gobind Singh ji used this jugti to save their son? 

Is bhagti of Guru Gobind Singj ji less than this sant? 

On 7/28/2015 at 3:55 AM, paapiman said:

Bro, astrology is a science, just like other sciences (Physics, Chemistry, etc).

It was invented by a great saint, Rikhi Bhrigu jee Maharaaj.

Bhul chuk maaf

Astronomy is science, astrology is rape of science. 

On 8/7/2018 at 5:26 PM, paapiman said:

Even thousands of Dhadris cannot equal the great vidya martand of the Sikh Panth, Srimaan 108 Sant Gyani Gurbachan Singh jee Khalsa Bhindranwale.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

No one can beat you Pappiman. I have tried and tested. The kind of intellectual knowledge you have, you can write your own granth. Forget 108, you are 100000008.
 

On 8/29/2018 at 5:01 PM, chatanga1 said:

I dont know what he mentioned. I don’t watch his videos. The coward has the intellect of a donkey. 

 

But seeing as you are a cult follower maybe you can explain what “ Ant kaal “ means ? Do you agree with with your cult Guru ghagri? 

Great! you don't know what he mentioned, you don't watch his videos and still you have the caliber to say that he has the intellect of a donkey.

Slow claps... 

Source: British Library

You will not like me after reading this.

If God grant me one wish, I would ask God to not let any humans (Sikhs, non-Sikhs, anyone) to join this forum.

Seriously, because only thing I see and read in this forum is nothing but Brahmanwaad Ver 2.0.

Everyone, except few people like @CdnSikhGirl, are doing nothing but just ripping apart Sikhi.

The Sachi-Suchi Practical, Heuristic, Realistic and Simplistic philosophy of Guru Nanak Ji is nowhere seen here. All Guru ji lived a normal human life doing all functions which a normal human do, but the only thing that differentiates them was their VIRTUES. They had the Gyaan. They had all the VIRTUES such as Charity,compassion, courage, courteousness, diligence, discipline, empathy, endurance, fairness, faith, fidelity, forgiveness, fortitude, generosity, honesty, honor, hopefulness, hospitality, humility, impartiality, innocence, integrity, joy, kindness, mercy, modesty, morality, patience, peacefulness, perseverance, prudence, purity, purposefulness, respectfulness, self-discipline, sincerity, sympathy, temperance, thankfulness, trustworthiness, truth, wisdom etc. which a human of high moral standard should possess.

They lead a normal life but it was a life of SIGNIFICANCE, and they lived a practical life to teach and make us understand. They showed us ways by setting example for us in every aspects of life.

Guru Nanak Ji didn't perform any magic shows to attract people during their udasis (trips). It was the GYAAN, the Reformed and Revolutionized KNOWLEDGE, which people got attracted to. What I see in this forum is only the  ALIF-LAILA version of Sikhi. Behind every action there is some supernatural and mystical things associated to it.

As long as sex is concerned, what Guru ji taught was simple.
Having sex with neighbor's wife makes us a bad Human (or for that matter not even a Human), and on the other side having sex with our own wife and being loyal and faithful makes us a good Human. Simple as that, period.
What I see in this forum is whole mystical thing revolving around whether Guru Ji had sexual intercourse or not. Was our Guru ji aliens? Why would they not have sex with their wives? What's wrong in that? This is how all humans are born. Nobody is ever born in this world without it.

Having children without sex doesn't makes our Guruji great, it's the Loyalty, Trust and Faithfulness that makes them Great.

I was happy initially when I joined this forum but now I would never want anyone to see what's going inside this.

I know, now people will start bashing me.

You will not like me after reading this.

If God grant me one wish, I would ask God to not let any humans (Sikhs, non-Sikhs, anyone) to join this forum.

Seriously, because only thing I see and read in this forum is nothing but Brahmanwaad Ver 2.0.

Everyone, except few people like @CdnSikhGirl, are doing nothing but just ripping apart Sikhi.

The Sachi-Suchi Practical, Heuristic, Realistic and Simplistic philosophy of Guru Nanak Ji is nowhere seen here. All Guru ji lived a normal human life doing all functions which a normal human do, but the only thing that differentiates them was their VIRTUES. They had the Gyaan. They had all the VIRTUES such as Charity,compassion, courage, courteousness, diligence, discipline, empathy, endurance, fairness, faith, fidelity, forgiveness, fortitude, generosity, honesty, honor, hopefulness, hospitality, humility, impartiality, innocence, integrity, joy, kindness, mercy, modesty, morality, patience, peacefulness, perseverance, prudence, purity, purposefulness, respectfulness, self-discipline, sincerity, sympathy, temperance, thankfulness, trustworthiness, truth, wisdom etc. which a human of high moral standard should possess.

They lead a normal life but it was a life of SIGNIFICANCE, and they lived a practical life to teach and make us understand. They showed us ways by setting example for us in every aspects of life.

Guru Nanak Ji didn't perform any magic shows to attract people during their udasis (trips). It was the GYAAN, the Reformed and Revolutionized KNOWLEDGE, which people got attracted to. What I see in this forum is only the  ALIF-LAILA version of Sikhi. Behind every action there is some supernatural and mystical things associated to it.

As long as sex is concerned, what Guru ji taught was simple.
Having sex with neighbor's wife makes us a bad Human (or for that matter not even a Human), and on the other side having sex with our own wife and being loyal and faithful makes us a good Human. Simple as that, period.
What I see in this forum is whole mystical thing revolving around whether Guru Ji had sexual intercourse or not. Was our Guru ji aliens? Why would they not have sex with their wives? What's wrong in that? This is how all humans are born. Nobody is ever born in this world without it.

Having children without sex doesn't makes our Guruji great, it's the Loyalty, Trust and Faithfulness that makes them Great.

I was happy initially when I joined this forum but now I would never want anyone to see what's going inside this.

I know, now people will start bashing me.

On 7/28/2015 at 5:11 AM, paapiman said:

Heard of another sakhi, where a person was given the boon of Astrology. Tenth master stopped at his place, while on his way to Deccan region and asked him about Aurengzeb. The person was able to correctly predict that Aurengzeb will not be able to have darshan of Satguru jee.

Bro, your point makes sense, but even other sciences have limitations too, including medical, in front of Maharaaj. That does not mean, we must stop going to doctors.

Bhul chuk maaf

No one can beat you Paapiman.

Seriously, you have your own version of Sikhi. Just like how brahmin use to fulfill his desire by associating things with devis and devtas, similarly you do it with our Gurus.

Don't get offended, that's the reality.

I would not say that it is ultimate knowledge, but you should watch this.