Guest Posted July 27, 2015 Report Share Posted July 27, 2015 Sant Baba Gurbachan Singh Hi Bhindrawale had darshan of Guru Had Rai wives in a dream where Sri Hanuman Ji explained why they gave kacheraCan you please cite source or katha on this? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SikhKhoj Posted July 27, 2015 Report Share Posted July 27, 2015 ^^https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wishful_thinking 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted August 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 ^^https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wishful_thinkingThink about the verse below.ਨਿੰਦਕ ਕੈ ਮੁਖਿ ਛਾਇਆ ॥The slanderer's face is blackened with ashes. Bhul chuk maaf 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SikhKhoj Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 Stop being an illiterate fool and learn something about gurmat. Taking your head out of your backside will help for a start, then learn gurbani arths in shabad context and not seperate tuks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted August 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 (edited) Stop being an illiterate fool and learn something about gurmat. Taking your head out of your backside will help for a start, then learn gurbani arths in shabad context and not seperate tuks.Gurbani can be understood using tools like vyakaran (grammar), parikaran (context), uthanka (place of origin), etc, but, Gurbani is not completely dependent on them.Bhul chuk maaf Edited August 10, 2015 by paapiman 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnSikhGirl Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 Except it's very dangerous to take single tuks and suit them to one's own needs. That is the reason that the entire shabad exists in the first place, to establish context, since single tuks in many instances seem to say the opposite of what the shabad does. You must pay attention to the context to establish what is meant in any one tuk... otherwise you can pretty much justify anything you want taking a single tuk and removing it from the shabad. Also instead of quoting one tuk that looks like it suits your needs, in addition to looking at the full context (as majority uses allegory or metaphor to explain a point and is not literal) you also must pay attention to the rahao to get the central idea or thought. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuttabanda2 Posted August 12, 2015 Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 I have the 'Gurmat Rehat Maryada' book (not the booklet) and says nothing about Hanuman giving a Kacherra. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted August 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 (edited) I have the 'Gurmat Rehat Maryada' book (not the booklet) and says nothing about Hanuman giving a Kacherra. Bro, the fact that Sri Hanumaan jee was given a Kachera by Sri Ram Chander jee Maharaaj, is mentioned in Gurbani Path Darpan, which was written by Srimaan 108 Sant Gyani Gurbachan Singh jee Khalsa Bhindrawale. Bhul chuk maaf Edited August 12, 2015 by paapiman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuttabanda2 Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 Bro, the fact that Sri Hanumaan jee was given a Kachera by Sri Ram Chander jee Maharaaj, is mentioned in Gurbani Path Darpan, which was written by Srimaan 108 Sant Gyani Gurbachan Singh jee Khalsa Bhindrawale. Bhul chuk maafHowever it doesn't quite state that a flying ape passed it down to the Khalsa. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted August 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 (edited) However it doesn't quite state that a flying ape passed it down to the Khalsa. Bro, it is a historical event (Sri Hanumaan jee receiving a Kachera from Sri Ram Chander jee Maharaaj). There is also a historical event associated with kara. Shivjee Maharaaj gave kara to his devotee, who was a demon. He had done Bhagtee of Shivjee Maharaaj.Bhul chuk maaf Edited August 20, 2015 by paapiman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuttabanda2 Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 Bro, it is a historical event (Sri Hanumaan jee receiving a Kachera from Sri Ram Chander jee Maharaaj). There is also a historical event associated with kara. Shivjee Maharaaj gave kara to his devotee, who was a demon. He had done Bhagtee of Shivjee Maharaaj.Bhul chuk maafhanuman "Jee", Shiv "Jee" and "Sri" Ram Chander "Jee Maharaj" aren't what Sri Guru Gobind Singh Jee addressed them as. Jena Loka da Jaloos Te Paarda-Faash Saade Pita ne kita, ouna de paer Chumi Jana? They aren't respected by our own Guru, I'm not sure why you do so with your prefixes and suffixes. They aren't going to give you Naam or Amrit, they themselves haven't gotten it, Shiv, Ram, Brahma, Vishnu, Indar, etc. don't even have good Charitars and have done some questionable deeds. Chaubees Avtar, Braham Avtar, and Ram Avtar da zikr kar, aapi pata laag Ju. And It's not a historical event. More than certainly, our Kacheras weren't given to us by flying monkeys. *correction* monkeys, not apes as I said before. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuttabanda2 Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 In mythology, Ram did give Hanuman an undergarment representing chastity and abstinence, but that wasn't passed down to the Khalsa. The Gurus didn't believe them to be as Hindu Mythology portrayed them, they were just kings that were aggrandized, exaggerated, and worshiped by the people of India. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted August 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 (edited) hanuman "Jee", Shiv "Jee" and "Sri" Ram Chander "Jee Maharaj" aren't what Sri Guru Gobind Singh Jee addressed them as. Jena Loka da Jaloos Te Paarda-Faash Saade Pita ne kita, ouna de paer Chumi Jana? They aren't respected by our own Guru, I'm not sure why you do so with your prefixes and suffixes. They aren't going to give you Naam or Amrit, they themselves haven't gotten it, Shiv, Ram, Brahma, Vishnu, Indar, etc. don't even have good Charitars and have done some questionable deeds. Chaubees Avtar, Braham Avtar, and Ram Avtar da zikr kar, aapi pata laag Ju. Bro, they deserve respect. They were not perfect, but they were way higher in spirituality, than many people (including some Amritdhari Sikhs). They made some mistakes, but a person like me commits so many sins in a day. Daas is no where close to them.According to your line of thinking, should we also stop respecting our mothers, fathers, elders, fellow Singhs, teachers, preachers, etc? After all, most of them are not perfect and cannot give us Naam or Amrit.Bhul chuk maaf Edited August 25, 2015 by paapiman 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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