Personal experiences with saints power

[Paappi]

Can someone tell his her personal experience with any true saint to inspire me and others?

[Guest]

Normal conditioned mind with some openness/receptivity will naturally be drawn to cosmic mind JOT (saint) if they are face to face or close by as neddle would automatically drawn to magnet. But these subtle notions/ drawing force are not usually noticed by seeker as seeker as conditioned self kicks in and hide feeling/sense-anubhav of it, and one cannot make much sense about that pull.

But here are some of many signs being in sangat of true saint (self realized cosmic mind-JOT saroop)-

- Nervousness

-Excitement

- Achal morat moment- thoughts automatically fall off - serene inner peace- achal mind (thoughtless-afor mind with pure awareness)

- Automatic jaap (jap of vahiguru)

- Divine insights

- Emotional de attachment (bairaag)

- Sheer emotions coming out 

- Moment of onenessss

- Satori moment for quick few sec- everything falls off , indentify fall off- one is merged in totality- quick satori moment (only few rare lucks one have quick glimpse of it).

 

[harsharan000]

Can someone tell his her personal experience with any true saint to inspire me and others?

​As far as I understand, if he is a True Saint, He will just tell you to find Wahiguru within you, as per Bani.

He will never tell you do this or that, or go here or there .....

But then, having said all this, who can know about such a Saint?

Who will believe in Him? Many may say he is a pakhandee... or a fraud, or he is the leader of a sect ?

Why do I say all this? Because the Bani clearly says: Brahamgyani ka "daras"(darshan), wadbhagee paae. The bani mentions the word wadbhagee, means, to those whom the Lord Wahiguru wants get His darshan, only they shall get automatically attracted to that Saint.

This is not  a matter of discussion or deep reasoning, or convince to someone ... It is a matter of Grace, of  Daya Meher

But anyhow, even if one does not believe in what that Saint says, nobody goes empty handed from thier Sangat. The seed of Grace goes deep within us by being in their company, and within due time, whenever our karmas are lightened enough, this strong Sanskar, will unfold itself and definetely we shall come nearer to Wahiguru, this is Wahiguru´s word.

We are all blind, we have no eyes to recognize such a True saint.

Have we not heard, when the chela(disciple) is ready, the Guru appears. So it is the Saint who finds and attracts us, not that by our efforts or reasoning, can we ever come near them.

You see, a True saint may be our Father or brother, we may live under the same roof with Him, but if it is not written on our forehead, from Dur Dargah, we shall never accept Him, and like most we shall abuse him, either verbally or by actions.

And some near examples we have them in our own sikhee.

Like Prithi Chand with Dhan Dhan Guru Ram Das and with Sree Guru Arjun Dev Maharaj; or the sons of First Patshahee.

There are many many more examples.... I know all this may create confussion to some, though I have only stated, what we have seen being done through the history ....and as donkeys we keep repeating these mistakes.

But then, who can be blamed for all this abnormal situation?

Does not the Bani say: to some I make them near me, to others I make them keep wandering.  You see, if this was so easy, the creation would come to an end as everbody would be attracted to a True Saint and would practice real sikhee... so if He wants the creation to go on, the creation has to be imperfect ....

There should be no reason to dismay for all this, rather we should with more zeal do His Simran, that we may be blessed with His unbound Grace, in order to merge in Him.

Sat Sree Akal.

 

 

 

[harsharan000]

Continuing a bit forward with the topic of this thread, I would like to share a couple of lines from the Bani of Dhan Dhan Satguru Arjun Dev Maharaj in Raag Maaroo, where Guru Jee clearly points us, the supreme importance of Sant Jan in spiritual affairs:

Sant binaa mai thaa-o na ko-ee avar na soojhai jaavnaa.
Without the Saint, I have no place of rest at all; I cannot think of any other place to go.

Why does He tells us so? 

*Because any other place, is like remaining in darkness... Sant Jan are the embodiment of Akal Purukh, and with them we go back Home.

mohi nirgun ka-o ko-ay na raakhai Santaa sang samaavanaa.
I am unworthy, no one gives me sanctuary. But in the Society of the Saints, I merge in God.

Here He confirms that what is stated above, people all around look at my colour, race, dharam, age, gender, etc; but it is only in their company of Sant Jan, that they look at my soul alone as a spark particle of Wahiguru, thus they accept us, and bless us their grace and mercy as per Hukum of Wahiguru, and naturally then we reach Sach Khand and merge in Wahiguru.

*The Bani has all  answers for all our doubts or shortcomings, but mostly we hardly pay any attention to the Gems contained in It, and rather we just keep looking from a distance to the Jewel Box, when Wahiguru has kept the unlimited spiritual wealth of the Bani for us to take it and use it for ourselves and become Gurmukhs ....

But what do we manmukhs rather do? 

We say, no no, my people are collecting big, big stones, so let me do the same... who has seen the precious Gems and Rubies, we have no time for it...

Such a pity....

Hey Waheguru Daya ke Saagar, ik Ardas hae Aap ke aageh, kuch Meher  karoh jee apne is bandoh peh, kee Aap kee sachee bhakti kareh .....

Sat Sree Akal.