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  1. Maybe for you. That example is a classic. Also, all I asked was do you need more examples? What is a Candle? You are going totally tangent here. Not sure what are you trying to say? I think you are just fixated on the physical "tools" and not the usage of them. Yes. But Sikhs do celebrate such birthdays. Anyway, again, I think you are going totally tangent here. Not sure what are you trying to say?
  2. You got bowled over just my first comment and you want go to "other questions"? Defeat is a habit for some.
  3. I am clear in my understanding. It seems to me that you are trying force in some irrational argument. The "Cakes and Candles" thing is seen as a "western influence". That is what the article is trying to convey. From what I understand the act/"ritual" of wearing a wrist watch is also western: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-s8ArturTnUc/Uln9cuoaXpI/AAAAAAAAA14/dQyf4XpIOMA/s320/Narendra+Modi+Full+Hd+Wallpaper+-+srahir.tumbr.com+%2823%29.jpg Do you need more examples?
  4. Which one? India, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Tibet, Nepal, Pakistan or Afghanistan?
  5. BhagatSingh Ji, so is the computer device that you are using. I need not elaborate more. I think you understand.
  6. I asked a simple question and you already started running in different directions and have started blabbering with an un-intelligent response. All I am asking is when you say "Our country", which country are you talking about. Is it India, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Tibet, Nepal, Pakistan or Afghanistan?
  7. Which one? India, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Tibet, Nepal, Pakistan or Afghanistan?
  8. False Teachings for India's Students By THE EDITORIAL BOARD OCT. 8, 2014 Prime Minister Narendra Modi has promised India’s youth a bright future. As he is well aware, realizing that promise will depend on dramatically increasing educational quality and opportunity for the 600 million Indians under age 25, many of whom lack basic reading and math skills. In its 2014 Election Manifesto, Mr. Modi’s party, the Bharatiya Janata Party, called education “the most powerful tool for the advancement of the nation and the most potent weapon to fight poverty.” The question now is whether educational reform will be used not just to create an educated citizenry and trained work force but also to promote a particular ideology. While campaigning ahead of the May election, Mr. Modi, then the chief minister of the state of Gujarat, promised to bring the “Gujarat model” to national governance. Many voters understood this to mean a commitment to a more dynamic economy. But the Gujarat model has a less attractive side to it: a requirement that the state’s curriculum include several textbooks written by Dinanath Batra, a scholar dedicated to recasting India’s history through the prism of the Hindu right wing. In February, Mr. Batra led a successful effort to pressure Penguin India to withdraw copies of a book by Wendy Doniger, a religion professor at the University of Chicago, which he felt insulted Hinduism. Then, in June, the Gujarat government directed that several of Mr. Batra’s own books be added to the state’s curriculum. Mr. Batra’s teachings range from the trivial to assertions that simply cannot be taken seriously. His books advise students not to celebrate birthdays with cakes and candles, a practice Mr. Batra considers non-Indian. More troublingly, they instruct students to draw maps of “Akhand Bharat,” a greater India, presumably restored to its rightful boundaries, that include Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Tibet, Nepal, Pakistan and Afghanistan. Mr. Batra also believes that aircraft, automobiles and nuclear weapons existed in ancient India, and he wants children to learn these so-called facts. In 1999, the national government, then led by the Bharatiya Janata Party, put Mr. Batra in charge of rewriting history textbooks to reflect these and other views of the Hindu right. Now it appears that the party intends to pick up where it left off when it was voted out of power in 2004. Mr. Batra says Smriti Zubin Irani, the minister of human resource development, has assured him his books will soon be a part of the national curriculum. The education of youth is too important to the country’s future to allow it to be hijacked by ideology that trumps historical facts, arbitrarily decides which cultural practices are Indian, and creates dangerous notions of India’s place alongside its neighbors. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/09/opinion/false-teachings-for-indias-students.html?_r=0
  9. Your understanding is correct in my humble opinion. Gurbani makes constant references to the soul "bride" and husband God. So the color red is the color of Naam. Found a quote from Gurbani that should dispel any such understanding/restriction about colors: ਏਕਸੁ ਤੇ ਸਭਿ ਰੂਪ ਹਹਿ ਰੰਗਾ ॥ Eaekas Thae Sabh Roop Hehi Rangaa || एकसु ते सभि रूप हहि रंगा ॥ All forms and colors come from the One Lord. Also, want to point out that the Gurbani reference: ਨਾਨਕ ਲਾਲੋ ਲਾਲੁ ਹੈ ਸਚੈ ਰਤਾ ਸਚੁ ॥੧॥ Naanak Laalo Laal Hai Sachai Rathaa Sach ||1|| नानक लालो लालु है सचै रता सचु ॥१॥ O Nanak, crimson - deep crimson is the color of one who is imbued with the True Lord. ||1|| was provided by Chatanga, not by sher as you mentioned.
  10. Following are the facts as I see them: 1) You are clown. 2) What you are stating is out of context. 3) The same source that you have provided also states that " ...After Guru Gobind Singh, Banda Bahadur promoted Anand Karaj ..."
  11. When you have time from your rat race give some thoughts to this:
  12. http://www.outlookindia.com/article/Mrs-Gs-String-of-Beaus/211174 Mrs G's String of Beaus A new book chronicles Indira Gandhi's loves and gets rave reviews in the UK Sanjay Suri, London t's a brave biographer who will take on the subject of Indira Gandhi's sex life. The world, though, could have had a glimpse of it had M.O. Mathai, Jawaharlal Nehru's special assistant, not withdrawn the chapter titled 'She' from his autobiography My Days With Nehru. In it Mathai apparently claimed he had had an affair with Indira Gandhi for 12 long years. Indira Gandhi's new biographer Katherine Frank (Indira: The Life of Indira Nehru Gandhi; HarperCollins is to be released in India next month and has already received rave reviews in Britain) believes she and Mathai were probably lovers. Frank blames Indira Gandhi's extra-marital affairs on her husband's philandering. Frank, who seems to have read 'She', says it would have been unprintable anyway. The new biography is indeed a remarkable story of the woman in Indira, controversially focusing on her intimate side—from her first love, a German teacher at Shantiniketan, to her long pre-marital relationship with Feroze Gandhi and then Mathai, Dinesh Singh and Dhirendra Brahmachari. Frank dwells at some length on the rumours of Indira Gandhi's affairs with "none other than her father's squat and moon-faced secretary, M.O. Mathai." She writes: "Admittedly it was Mathai himself who was the primary source of these rumours. He boasted openly of his liaison with Nehru's daughter, both at the time and for many years after." Frank, however, says there was "definitely a certain attraction" between them, quoting Nehru's biographer Sarvepalli Gopal to say that "Indira Gandhi encouraged him beyond normal limits." She also says that 'She', which Mathai withdrew, surfaced in the Eighties, five years after Mathai's death, "when Indira's estranged daughter-in-law Maneka Gandhi circulated it among a small group of Indira's enemies". Frank writes: "The 'She' chapter contains such explicit material that even if Mathai had not suppressed it, it is doubtful whether his publishers would have taken the risk and proceeded to publish it. While Brahmachari was the silent lover, Dinesh Singh had no qualms about playing up rumours of an affair. Mathai describes Indira as 'highly sexed' and includes among other salacious details the claim that she became pregnant by him and had an abortion." A disillusioned Mathai had a strong motive to lie but Frank says that people who knew them well, "including B.K. Nehru, who is a reliable source and no enemy of his cousin (Indira), feel that the 'She' chapter contains more fact than fiction". So open was their relationship that in 'She' Mathai claims to have been afraid that Indira's careless behaviour would alert her father. But "Delhi buzzed with rumours" about their relationship. In Parliament, Feroze Gandhi was teased that Mathai was Nehru's real son-in-law. "Indira, significantly, did nothing to quell the rumours of the alleged liaison," writes Frank. Subsequently, Indira Gandhi wrote to Dorothy Norman, her lifelong confidante, that she had taken to yoga taught "by an exceedingly good-looking yogi"—Dhirendra Brahmachari. She wrote that "it was his looks, especially his magnificent body, which attracted everyone to his system." Dhirendra was probably no brahmachari: a raid on his ashram in Kashmir after the Emergency yielded, among other things, a vibrator! If she had a lover as prime minister it would have to be him. "Brahmachari was the only man to see Indira alone in her room while giving her yoga instruction, and he was the only male with whom she could have had a relationship during this period." To her men Indira was quite a catch—and perhaps that's why they encouraged rumours about their relationships with her.Congressman Dinesh Singh had this tendency as much as Mathai. "Indira relied on Singh and conferred with him at all hours. Inevitably, there were rumours that he was her lover, rumours which Singh himself encouraged." Frank suggests that Indira was provoked into extra-marital relationships due to the constant infidelity of Feroze Gandhi. Well into the marriage, Feroze "openly flaunted his affairs with other women, including the MPs Tarakeshwari Sinha known as 'the glamour girl of Indian Parliament', Mahmuna Sultana and Subhadra Joshi". His other girlfriends included "a beautiful Nepalese woman who worked for All India Radio and a divorcee from a high-caste Kerala family". FRANK details the troubled relationship between Feroze and Indira. He proposed to her a month before her 16th birthday and was rebuffed because both Indira and mother Kamala said she was too young. Feroze seemed an unlikely match for Indira and an even more unlikely son-in-law to Nehru. He was "loud and passionate with a great appetite for life, including food, drink and sex". Frank says rumours of an affair between Kamala and Feroze were also then the talk of the town. "Posters in fact had been put up in Allahabad proclaiming an improper relationship and the instigators of this smear campaign, which enraged Nehru who was in jail at the time, were not British sympathisers but members of the Congress party," Frank notes in her book. And Frank doesn't put these rumours to rest either. Kamala strongly opposed a marriage between Indira and Feroze saying Indira would be making "the mistake of her life". So did Nehru. The biographer asks why and then offers an answer: "...Even if he (Nehru) had dismissed the idea that Kamala and Feroze had had an affair, it may have occurred to him that Feroze had behaved inappropriately towards Kamala." But marry they did and through the troubled years found happiness often. But never more than before the marriage. The two were secretly engaged for four years and lived as man and wife long before they married. Living through the German bombing of London brought them closer. But Feroze wasn't the first man Indira fell in love with. She was attracted to Frank Oberdof, a German who taught her French at Shantiniketan. "Oberdof declared his love for Indira and he probably loved her for herself, not for her family," Frank writes. Soon she was asked by her family to leave Shantiniketan, but "she did not want to leave the Abode of Peace, or possibly Frank Oberdof, or both," observes Frank. Then Tagore spoke to her and sent her off to Europe. Indira left reluctantly. Oberdof still "hovered in the wings" and later caught up with her in London, but Indira declined his invitation to join him in Germany for Christmas. The biography is, however, more than the sexual diary of the Indira family. It portrays Indira as a far more sympathetic figure than the dictatorial leader she is often held out to be. Frank makes Sanjay, not Indira, the villain of the Emergency. For Sanjay the emergency was "Open Sesame to power and money". Frank says he arranged for an underworld man, Sunderlal, to be murdered. Sanjay and Maneka then asked a Delhi official, Navin Chawla, to take anticipatory bail for his own arrest in that case—in short, to take the rap. "Understandably, Chawla refused," Frank writes. Sanjay also had another man murdered with whose girlfriend he had an affair. He did as he liked; it was the "emotional grip on his mother that was the source of his power".This makes the biography both poignant and controversial.
  13. Don't give hidden messages to say who you are. You are from the RSS/"hindutva" brigade. Correct? Own up.
  14. Why? Finding it difficult how india tried to fool the world by electing a fascist criminal? You belong to the same squad probably so "YAWN" might be a good idea.
  15. Yes. Not a job for a spineless "hindu" and should I also say "bahman" No. That sounds cool too.
  16. Define "Islamic terrorists". We will soon see who is the real terrorist.
  17. You must be very proud of yourself and so must be your country.
  18. So what is the correlation? We are talking about the criminal modi and you bring in pakistan?
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