KAAL

lol Baba Jee i would be happy to come along to the next rehnsbhai, no worries, infact will bring my girlfriend along so jus PM who you are and i will meet u there, no problem, and i have heard kuke doing simran, and i also have been to the amritvela's they sound exactly the same, u breath in saying vah (deep breath down to the pit of ur stomach) and from there breath out saying gurooooo. I have no problem with the way people do simran, none wotsoeva, but this having to take amrit again to obtain this 'gift' well that to me is wrong. Also i have spoken to loads of singhs about this, and 1 thing that is always said is that techinque automatically comes to you, if you do regular amritvela's and stuff. wot about these people do you condemn them? and the people who know how to do it do you condemn them? Actually i know of a few places that (who say they are part of the Jatha) who allow anyone to come in and do amritvela with them, without being a problem, the only place that i saw that happen here is Sikhi camp a few years back, what about these singhs are they now condemd from AKJ. Now look at the subject like this, AKJ are the only ones who give this way out, and only people who are allowed into their amritvele, now, is the whole sikh congreation stupid? are they wrong? because they dont giv saas graas out?? now are all these panj pyare fake and not really panj pyare at all? cause they dont give out saas graas? If u think i am being harsh and getin out of control with the whole thing, i see you as my brother, i break bread with you as my brother, but yet brother i cant do amritvela with you, and if it isnt seen as my amrit being better then yours, then brother what is it. please educate these uneducated folk :?: baba i mean no disrespect, please tell me and the other sangant if you see things differently daas Kaal

Thanks paji, i see what you are saying and understand where you are coming from, when i said that i left that forum it was simply cause it was silly comments. There are many ways to god, as there are many types of retrievin information, where it is on this site or that, you go to the one which makes the most sense and easist to digest without the garbage. i just dont want this forum turning into the same, i see the moderators are doing a terrific job, and i can see that all of you are on top of things. it didnt seem as this was being addressed by the moderators, forgive my ignorance should knw that things r happinin behind closed doors, and that you guys are dealing with it. Thanks your post has been much appreciated it and re-enforced that you guys are on top of everything

every1 is a sher behind their computer but face to face, they jus little billiya. i agree with you tili guti, i have read this inderjits post on other forums where he is a moderator, being a moderator on other forums he should atleast know how to conduct himself on a debating forum. i also think that the moderators on this forum should be having words with this inderjit and ask him to debate not to have personal attacks. incidently i left those other forums cause all they were was silly comments without people reading the post fully. i thought it was petty so left those forums. i dont want to leave this 1, as i have found it to be very informative and enjoy it.

Thats an excellent 1, good way to escape, u cant absail down the side of a prision if u eva get caught whilst fighting the enemy, this is good keep it cumin 8)

aaaaaahhhhh very gud!!!!! u usin ur mind now! practical

we shudnt laugh??? We are Guru Jees children, he sees us as children of course he would want us to laugh, thats y the patsay are put in the amrit, to make the singhs meetay. And the tent thing i dont think guv was joking :? i have heard about this guy i think he probably did use it as a tent!

u probably wore a cotten white kachera, cum on guv bruv, you knw u shud have just worn the black wooly one, that way the wool would have kept you warn, and black soaks up heat, and white repels it, make sure u pack the correct kachera next time you go camping

The kachera actively elivates kaam! cause the nala is meant to round ur waist, u stratigcally tie it in such a way that you stop the blood flowing to ur genitals, that way you got more chance of winning the lottery then you gettin all excited and thinking about kaam. Also on a rainy day it works wonders (if you in india) as a scooter cover, or here in uk as a motorbike cover. IF you go for long walks it also can work wonders as a hamuck, remba though u must stay attached to the kachera so tie the nala to ur ankle :wink: At night it can also work as a tent, u c practicallity!!!! 8)

so y do they segregate themselves off?? and its not just non amrithdharis who are not allowed it is any1 who hasent had this naam dirrh, where you can only get from akj 'panj pyaree' now, so as sukha singh was saying, you are not allowed to go in there if you havent had their amrit, if you want go ask them they will say the same. you have to be part of their 'exclusive club', otherwise no entry, i have seen once a 'bouncer' outside of the room so that no 1 being apart of their exclusive club cant get in. in india they are blatent and ask you straight out if you have had the 'special' amrit which u get naam dirr, if you say they you are not allowed. now this my friend is a 'cultish tactics' as sukha singh has said

i was looking forward for it to go to page 7 oh well :twisted:

Nice post i thought that the five elements, were earth, fire, wind, water, heart or have i just been watchin too much captain planet rember that cartoon!!!!

thanx nindi i have said more or less the same thing on pg 3, 4, and 5, u jus siad it on 6, hopefully we can hit 7 and someone else can say it on that page aswell :twisted:

They tried to lock the date of viasakhi and all major gurpurbs, but it didnt work and went back to the luner calender, so it can and does change!

I had sum1 ask me on what colour it has to be, for males it has to be white and for females it really doesnt matter

woohoo 6 pages, of goin around in a circle, come on lets see if we can make it 7!!!

woah, sorry, i very rarly proof read any of my replies, i just type from the heart and hit enter, i am sorry that i have come on a 'strong' and sort of a hate thing goin on, i assure that was not my intent, all i wanted to say was, i havent talked to anyone, as in listend to crap people speak, i have been there and seen it myself, also yes go straight to the horses mouth, very good i agree, but how are you meant to get a unbiased opinion?? on here yes you will get biased opinions for and against, that way a individual can decifer fact from fiction, and find out through both an unbiased truth. (they both being biased and opposites end of the spectrum they should cancel each other out). On the Akj forum, it will all be biased and 1 way, nobody there to challenge their way of thought, (challenge in sikhi is good, we are meant to question everything, otherwise you dont knw, and b blind faith). On here there are people from everywhere, and different backgrounds, different way of thinking. You will see everything from every angle, because everyone will see it from a different angle. This applies to all subjects on this forum and not just this 1.

oh by the way jagroop singh, i've bin there done that and bought the T-shirt, i aint tokin S**T, if you disagree please tell me why, and for your information, i did and still have contacts with 'AKJ' peeps, who arew very high within the organisation, they all know my views, from the young to the old, and they all respect them. What they do is there business, but i will say something if u have innocent individuals who know nothing of this, and 'brainwash' them into this way of thinking, yes i was also taken up by this 'brainwashing' when i first got into sikhi, but once you educate yourselves you will see fact from fiction. This division, i dont like with in sikhi itself, i think in the long run it will do us no good. Bhen i ask u yes if you want to convince your dad, put it on the AKJ board, but if you want a to knw for yourself, just read here, i think people from both sides will and should come and state their opinions.

i just did a quick scan for that post, but i didnt see it newhere, but i rember that post i think sevek wrote that post :? sevek can u please confirm?? the post may now have been edited or removed :?

lol can you check the author of this post aswell??

can you please said me the link or quote from where i said this because i cant recall typin that at all???? and too lazy to look, but i am sure i never typed that :?

wow congratulations (me included in this) 5th page of going around in a circle, like i said b4 n page 3 and 4 and now 5, its ur personal relationship with god, we are no1 to say wheter it is right or wrong, i certaninly dnt have anything missing in my life, i just not in the habbit of condemning people. If this 'kind of luv' happens then it happens, i am not saying go activly looking for a gyal, or a man, just cause i disagree with u condemning people doesnt mean i am saying yes go out its ok to look and date. what i am saying is if it happens, sikhi doesnt say deny ur heart. I also read in a previous post more or less wot u r saying. about if you have a fight, it makes you get angry, if you break up, etc, same thing can be asid for marraige, fights can even go up to divorce, now what?? shall we sit in the mountains like the yogis?? nope live life in the 'real' world, deal with reality, with real pressures, its all fine and dandy to talk about situations in theory, just try them in reality, i assure you that it does not ever work out to ur 'textbook answers'. Hence why i say let individuals ask mahraaj and see what mahraaj says to them.

My sister isnt into sikhi, nor does she care, all she knows is her mates, college, music fasion, etc. No matter what i say to her about me going to kill they guy whoever tries it on with her, or if she goes out with anyone she gunna b dead, she will do what ever she wants to. Its taken me a long time but i have come to the conclusion that if she did ever date anyone i would rather have known about it then it going on behind my back. Obvioulsy i would have a few things to say about it, but realistically i cant do anything about it. (Believe it or not that is a very hard thing for any brother to say, especially on a forum, it was even harder coming to this relisation in the first place). All i can say to her is that i am here for her and that i will help her in any way. ok now think of it this way, u cant b with this gyal, cause u think its wrong, u telling me that you r guna stop thinking about her? now say you get with this gyal, you are as happy as can be, this is the gyal for you, the 1 you are goin to marry, your mind is at ease you are happy, you can allow your mind to settle and think about wateva you want, i.r paat pooja.

we are on page 4 now and i think on page 3 it was mentioned that it isnt goin to get resolved and that everyone is goin to stick to their guns. look at the end of the day it is your personal opinion on the matter, just ask guru jee if you get put in that situation. Just go with what mahraaj says. On here you are just goin to get some1 saying yes and then some1 saying no, in reality you cant giv quotes either way, and it comes down to that it is your personal opinion, or it is this sant or that sants opinion, rember ur relationship with vaheguru and it is a personal 1, look at things logically, and if it makes sense then it is usally right, remba sikhi is about logic and sense, u r a learner, u will gain knowledge i think on this perticualar topic it has been dead and buried and dug up again and now being dead and buried!

It actually depends on the lunar calander like this year it was on the 13th, (sorry for pointing that out, and just looking at the negative in your post :?) Other that that a very good post!

u do somehting which is classed as 'bad' you wouldnt't get punished for it untill you knew it was 'bad' so how does karma affect you then??