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Bro, where did you hear the above from? What is your source? Daas heard (in a Katha) that a woman is an Ardhangani. She becomes complete, with her husband (after marriage). That is one of the main reasons that females cannot be part of Panj Pyaray. Bhul chuk maaf
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Which old saroops of Satguru jee don't have Sri Raagmala Sahib jee? How old are they? Bhul chuk maaf
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Bro, can you please provide evidence for the above statements? Thanks Bhul chuk maaf
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Can you provide evidence for the above three statements? For the last one, are you referring to the Anglo-Sikh wars? Bhul chuk maaf
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Another place where Gyani jee uses the word "Purush" in his explanation, when the tuk has "Manukha" word in it. Bhul chuk maaf
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Bro, please have a look below. Gyani jee uses the word "jeev" as the tuk (below) now is also applicable to women and other beings. Bhul chuk maaf
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You might be right brother, but Gyani jee could have used the word "Hey Jeev" instead of "Hey Pursha". Maybe he used the latter as it is a specific teaching for males (in general) as Manukhi dehi does not apply to any other living being. Bhul chuk maaf
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The below is from Amir Bhandar. Gyani jee has mentioned the word "Pursha". There is no doubt that "Purush" refers to a male. There is no uthanka mentioned, so one cannot claim (at this point) that master is talking to a male only and thereby using the word "Pursha". If anyone knows the uthanka of this shabad, please do share with us. Bhul chuk maaf
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Does he say that Jatts beat the Singhs in wars? Bhul chuk maaf
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Satguru jee is the incarnation of God. Do you think anyone can murder God? If any Rajputs did seva of Satguru jee, they in turn received blessings for it. Do you think, a race can protect God? Please stop making offensive statements. Additionally, Khalsa forces (majority so-called Shudars) also defeated the Rajputs many times in battles. Bhul chuk maaf
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Daas would rather depend on Gurmukhs and saint-scholars, rather than come up with my own stupid ways (Manmat). Bhul chuk maaf
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Bro, Gurbani can be used for the benefit of all beings, including plants, animals, bhoot, pret, etc. Bhul chuk maaf
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Bro, let me confirm this with a scholar. Most likely, it does. Female body is a type of Maya. It cannot be classified as a Manukhi Deh. Maya are of two types - Kanchan (wealth) and Kamini (women) or Jarr (wealth) and Chaytan (women). You might already be aware that a female body is considered as a downgrade to a male body in Gurbani. One tuk states that a man, who worships Maya, becomes a woman in his next birth. Another tuk states that a person who thinks about women towards the end of his life, becomes a prostitute (female body) in his next birth. Bhul chuk maaf
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Bro, you are right about Manush-jati. Manush-jati will include women, children and possibly transgenders, but the word "Manukh" 's ling is Puling (masculine). Gurparsaad, will try to confirm it with a scholar. Bhul chuk maaf
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Bro, the word "ਸੰਗ੍ਯਾ" relates to the gender. It is very clear from the below that the word Manukh is male (Puling). Quote ਮਾਨੁਖ੍ਯ - mānukhya - मानुख्य ਸੰ. ਮਨੁਸ- ਮਨੁਸ਼੍ਯ- ਮਾਨੁਸ- ਮਾਨੁਸ਼੍ਯ. ਸੰਗ੍ਯਾ- ਆਦਮੀ. ਮਨੁੱਖ. "ਮਾਨੁਖ ਕੀ ਟੇਕ ਬ੍ਰਿਥੀ ਸਭ ਜਾਨੁ." (ਸੁਖਮਨੀ) "ਪਰਸ ਮਾਨੁਖ੍ਯ ਦੇਹੰ ਮਲੀਣੰ." (ਗਾਥਾ) ੨. ਚਾਰਹੱਥਭਰ. ਦੇਖੋ, ਮਨਖੋਸਟ.सं. मनुस- मनुश्य- मानुस- मानुश्य. संग्या- आदमी. मनुॱख. "मानुख की टेक ब्रिथी सभ जानु." (सुखमनी) "परस मानुख्य देहं मलीणं." (गाथा) २. चारहॱथभर. देखो, मनखोसट. Unquote 1 - http://searchgurbani.com/mahan_kosh/view Bhuk chuk maaf
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Bro, let's not bring in English. Daas is not sure about the origin of the word "human". Is the word Manukh "puling" (male) or istriling (female)? Bhul chuk maaf
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Bro, the above are meanings are for "मानवीय", not मनुष्य? Bhul chuk maaf
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Let's keep this simple and short. Can anyone show us (using Hindi/Sanskrit dictionary) that the word "Manush" (Manukh word is derived from it) refers to a female body too? Thanks Bhul chuk maaf
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Bro, the human body desired by devi/devtay is that of a male human, not a female or a transgender. Bhul chuk maaf
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Bro, Ego is also present in devi/devtay, animals, etc. What about them? Do they have ego or not? Bhul chuk maaf
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Bro, Manush does not refer to a female body in Hindi/Sanskrit. http://shabdkosh.com/hi/translate?e=woman&l=hi Gurbani instructs women and other beings (possibly) to seek God. When Gurbani states - "Simar manna....." - It is an instruction to a mind, which includes women, transgenders and possibly other entities too. Bhul chuk maaf
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So you think you have more knowledge than Srimaan 108 Sant Gyani Gurbachan Singh jee Khalsa Bhindranwale (a Gurmukh Brahamgyani)? Did you listen to the above video? Bhul chuk maaf
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Bro, did you listen to Sant jee? Do you find his katha funny? Bhul chuk maaf
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Please listen to Srimaan 108 Sant Gyani Gurbachan Singh jee Khalsa Bhindrawale. Please listen after 3.00 min. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuKVMhPAe4c In short, Women, who recite Sri Sukhmani Sahib jee, without any desire attain salvation.Women, who recite Sri Sukhmani Sahib jee, to become a man, attain Manukhi dehi Therefore, it should be crystal clear now that "Manukhi Dehi" refers only to a male body. Bhul chuk maaf
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Women can achieve salvation too, but their body cannot be classified as a Manukhi Deh. Bhul chuk maaf
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