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That's a big difference. One follow Satguru jee blindly and others, I don't want to comment. Waheguru jee kaa Khalsa Waheguru jee kee Fateh

I think, it was Gyani Thakur Singh jee. Waheguru jee kaa Khalsa Waheguru jee kee Fateh

Are you 100% sure that there is no reference to red or green color in Gurbani (including Sri Dasam Granth Sahib jee)? Waheguru jee kaa Khalsa Waheguru jee kee Fateh

Good point.

So you think you are above Srimaan 108 Sant Gyani Gurbachan Singh jee Khalsa Bhindrawale (author of RM)? or Srimaan Sant Baba Nand Singh jee Maharaaj? How can taksalis and missionaries be same? Can you please explain? I understand they can reach the same spiritual level by doing bhagtee. Waheguru jee kaa Khalsa Waheguru jee kee Fateh

Bro, you cannot deny that there is a lot of truth on that website. If one says, it's all false, how can that be true? Waheguru jee kaa Khalsa Waheguru jee kee Fateh

I am trying to find a sakhi related to the color of clothing (which I heard from a Saint). I don't think it is evil to wear red of green, but rather not recommended in Gurmat. Waheguru jee kaa Khalsa Waheguru jee kee Fateh

Bro man, I heard it from a Taksali Singh too. One cannot say that all the content on their site is false. I think that would be classified as ninda, a heinous sin in Sikhism. Waheguru jee kaa Khalsa Waheguru jee kee Fateh

Bro man, I heard it from a Taksali Singh too. One cannot say that all the content on their site is false. I think that would be classified as ninda, a heinous sin in Sikhism. Waheguru jee kaa Khalsa Waheguru jee kee Fateh

I don't know. I will talk to a Sikh scholar about it when I get time. Here is the proof. "The Khalsa initiation for women, as in Budha Dal, is separate from the men in Hazoor Sahib. The Amrit is prepared by just reading ‘Japji’ and six verses from Anand Sahib, and wielding a ‘Kard’ (single-edged sword or knife) only" [1] [1] - http://www.sarbloh.info/htmls/article_samparda_hazoori6.html Waheguru jee kaa Khalsa Waheguru jee kee Fateh

I never said that women cannot be appointed as preachers or lead battles or become ministers. They can do it all except the ones, not authorized by Satguru jee. Biggest one being, not to be in Panj Pyaray. Waheguru jee kaa Khalsa Waheguru jee kee Fateh

Bro, I think it was during the times of Srimaan 108 Gyani Gurbachan Singh jee Khalsa Bhindrawale (jathedaar of DDT) that he observed it. It might have been before 1980 then. But, this practice definitely existed. Waheguru jee kaa Khalsa Waheguru jee kee Fateh

No point in getting personal bro. Let's just focus on the topic. What do you think about the sakhi above? Waheguru jee kaa Khalsa Waheguru jee kee Fateh

You are right in a sense bro. We must not be very strict on such kind of an issue as there are bigger demons to conquer. But, if a person refers to not wearing red as weird, then we must at least guide that person as it is a hukam of our lord. Waheguru jee kaa Khalsa Waheguru jee kee Fateh

I think we should not debating about this issue. We can keep stretching this. In conclusion, there are two arhts (there might be many more) of the following tuks. ਕਹੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਜਿਨਿ ਪ੍ਰਿਉ ਪਰਮੇਸਰੁ ਕਰਿ ਜਾਨਿਆ ॥ कहु नानक जिनि प्रिउ परमेसरु करि जानिआ ॥ Kaho Nānak jin pari▫o parmesar kar jāni▫ā. Says Nanak, she who looks upon the husband as a lord Or ਕਹੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਜਿਨਿ ਪ੍ਰਿਉ ਪਰਮੇਸਰੁ ਕਰਿ ਜਾਨਿਆ ॥ कहु नानक जिनि प्रिउ परमेसरु करि जानिआ ॥ Kaho Nānak jin pari▫o parmesar kar jāni▫ā. Says Nanak, she who looks upon the Transcendent Lord as her Husband, If you don't want to believe in the first arth, its your choice. First, is for any woman on how to live a married life and the second one applies to all humans. I will request you to find the uthanka for this shabad too. Waheguru jee kaa Khalsa Waheguru jee kee Fateh

Satguru jee instructed Khalsa not to wear red. There is a sakhi associated with it too. What is so weird about it? Scientifically speaking, colors do affect a human mind. Waheguru jee kaa Khalsa Waheguru jee kee Fateh

I am pretty sure bro, I heard that women did not receive Khanday da amrit at Hajoor sahib. Maybe, they stopped this practice now. I am not sure. They used to get only Kirpan da amrit. I can find the source for it, if you like. Waheguru jee kaa Khalsa Waheguru jee kee Fateh

The current so-called SRM is man made as it was made by a bunch of scholars and not accepted by the panth. The tuk in Gurbani, related to father and mother is meant for us. Please do not apply that tuk to guru saheb himself. Satguru jee is the incarnation of GOD. If modern science can create babies without male intervention (in a physical sense), why cannot GOD do it? In Gurbani, one is refereed to as a keera(insect) and kiram(worm). Will you apply that to Satguru jee? Waheguru jee kaa Khalsa Waheguru jee kee Fateh

Can you please provide any sort of reference to prove that animals do not perform sex for pleasure? Please read below. It proves that they do it for pleasure. Humans have been given intellect to evolve spiritually, which is not possible in animals. http://www.livescien...-enjoy-sex.html You have put the human body (a jewel) below that of animals. Waheguru jee kaa Khalsa Waheguru jee kee Fateh

Can you please provide any sort of reference to prove that animals do not perform sex for pleasure? Please read below. It proves that they do it for pleasure. Humans have been given intellect to evolve spiritually, which is not possible in animals. http://www.livescience.com/9631-animals-enjoy-sex.html Waheguru jee kaa Khalsa Waheguru jee kee Fateh

Bro, I meant without male intervention in a physical sense. Even then, modern science claims that they can create babies without males. Please read below. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-79711/We-create-babies-men-claim-scientists.html What other things I said are unscientific? I am curious to know. Bro, please don't discriminate against people from India. India is a country with enough smart people. That was stereotypical, which I believe is a sin in Sikhism. I don't mind it as we are here to learn from each other. Waheguru jee kaa Khalsa Waheguru jee kee Fateh

Satguru jee has also used various yogic terms in Gurbani. That does not mean that Satguru jee is promoting hath jog. In the same way, sex is not being promoted by Satguru jee if he is using it as a figure of speech. Sex is not bad as long as it is used for procreation. If it is used for pleasure, then I think there is no difference between a man and an animal. Also, sex has numerous bad effects on the human body. If Satguru jee wanted, he could have made sex very pleasurable and it would have no bad effects on the body. But this is not the case. It is very pleasurable but takes a heavy toll on the human body. Waheguru jee kaa Khalsa Waheguru jee kee Fateh