sarabatam

This is interesting post from western sage- Robert Adams:

In the Western psychology, we're told that you never give up. We are taught to keep on fighting. But I'm telling you there is nothing to fight, and the only thing you're giving up is your ego. Western psychology has never gone beyond this. Therefore they do not know of life beyond this. Western psychology works in the presumption that you are a body and a mind, so naturally they tell you never give up, fight to the end. Stick up for your rights. But in the highest teachings of the truth we learn that you have no rights.

You're giving up your body,

your ego,

your mind,

and when this happens, you go beyond psychology. [!]

Something happens that psychiatry, psychology are not aware of whatsoever. And that is you rise to a higher dimension, where there is

happiness,

and peace,

and compassion,

and love, joy, that is naturally yours.

You begin to feel these things instead of the things you felt before.

Prior to this, when you were fighting life, when you were sticking up for your rights, when you were trying to get even, when you were working as an ego, you were never able to feel happiness or joy or peace. Only sometimes, when you won, when you got your point across, when you won an argument, when you won a fight, when you sued someone and won, you felt happy for a while, but it didn't last long, and you have to go through it again and again. But this is as far as the world goes. It doesn't know anything else but this.

What I'm saying to you, let go of everything. Do not hold on.

Stand naked before God,

without any crutches, without anything to hold on to. [!]

When you can do this, from this moment on you will begin to rise. And you will become aware that

you are not the body,

or the mind,

or the world,

or the universe,

but you are effortless choiceless pure awareness.

You are boundless space, infinite like the sky.

You have become everything, and everything has become you.

.

[Silence]

-- Robert Adams, T155: This Is Your Dharma

Just out of curiosity, how much were the tuition fees per year if you don't mind me asking.

Sure that be great.

1 minute ago, Soulfinder said:

Its great news that Baba Ji is coming to UK. I do know that nowdays most divans get published online or i have seen a lot of live streaming on facebook.

 

I can try to send you live facebook if you are interested. Also i have a friend who is a big follower of Baba Ji as they have held divans in his pind in Punjab.

Thanks. But I was thinking more in terms of singhs having questions and answers with them like I managed to do with sant jagjit singh harkhowale.

On 1/10/2018 at 6:05 PM, Soulfinder said:

Waheguru amazing Baba Ji is coming to the uk this month.

Thats awesome, is there anyway singhs can record their bachans and put it up online? Can you get me in touch with one of their sevadars or sanghi from their sangat?

I've also heard, puratan Sants and Singhs also used to do sukhmani sahib every fast with pranayam technique complete 24 asthpadi in 24 breaths, by holding each breath and do manas jap of each ashtpadi. They were able to concentrate fully as breath is locked in with mind.

very fascinating and incredible.

5 hours ago, Crystal said:

I find it a shame that these singhs who dress in bana carry loads of shastar and carry their nishaan Sahib around nagar kirtans / when they visit the gurdwara. This pathetic bunch has not replied on this topic to clariffy their stance & why their so called head of dal panth the opium addict Joginder has jumped wagons. 

The point of this topic is to shed light on why we should stop supporting these nihangs in India and bringing them to the Uk...avoid, waste of sangats money. Politics is rife in the panth. It cannot be avoided. 

 

These people in India are enjoying being flown around the world, enjoying luxuries etc. What have they worked for?

If any of these men I have mentioned consider themselves the real nihangs they would have dealt with balbir

 

Or

 

They would have openly come out and gone against him...but these people are nothing but lazy people who are very much irrelevant. 

 

Heck ,theses so called warriors only know gatka. Truely pathetic panth.

 

Budha dal UK. When will you show yourselvss to be true khalsA? Carry on hiding bitches.

Just trying to get sense of things in reality, how many nihangs, dals (which dals) endorsed baba prema singh ji hazoor sahib budda dal? and how many endorsed baba joginder singh ji?

Simran by Sant Darshan Singh Ji Dhakki Sahib wale:

This is good video by doctor/psychologist who is a sikh

Welcome to our forum ji, hope you enjoy your stay here.

Great Katha by kam as usual, he is respected member of our forum, here is the link to see more of his post on here- http://www.sikhawareness.com/profile/736-kam1825

I'll move this thread to meditation section for more exposure as its pretty interesting.

6 hours ago, paapiman said:

 

Where does the soul reside according to Gurmat?

 

Bhul chuk maaf

I would say reflection of Atma reflects in dasam dwar / pineal gland - bhramrandar nari (that's how Sant Attar Singh Reru sahib left their body) and hirda heart.

I was talking to friend of mine at work who is into spirituality, he was raised as catholic he told me in his esoteric traditions, they do cross gesture which also indicates- seat of soul is in up on the forehead along with the heart. I was surprised to hear that similarities of esoteric traditions within christianity and between indic spirituality traditions.

Bump

Welcome to our forum. Hope you enjoy your stay. Excellent idea. Baru sahib is highly rated Sikh school in india. You can alternatively explore some local Sikh school as well in Brampton and Mississauga for example Khalsa school Malton and Gobind sarvar school in Brampton.

Since we are at it at such a insightful topic, can someone share their thoughts on 

Sunye Laigee Sehaj Dhyan ||

I look at the above gurbani pankiti as - glimpse or abidance in sehaj avastha-equipoise equilibrium ease (sehaj) while deep listening in quietude.

Your thoughts?

Here is another interpretation:

Suanie pauri- updesh of satguru nanak dev ji is for beginners to engage deeply in deep deep listening deeply listening to shabad/gyan (mahavak) with surat(consciouness) as shabad and its gyan(mahavak)- eternally inherently absolutely present in every one and every time.

Manaie pauri would be deep acknowledgement/acceptance of mahavak-shabad gyan with full receptivity and full acceptance of what is-divine will without any resistance and go towards in the meditation which would further purify our surat(intuitive understanding/consciousness)

Nidashan- deep contemplation or understanding or meditative abidance or feeling of (mahavak gyan- which further purify one surat and will blossom gyan flower in one's surat (intuitive consciousness) firstly as undertanding- parkosh gyan and then as realization- aparkosh gyan-bhramgyan

Mahavak thread:

Just to clarify I am not saying sikhs should aim for some sort of heaven- like daiv lok but they those who are serving guru day in and out be it gurdwara, via kirtan, langar seva, serving karah parasad, sri guru granth sahib ji parkash and sukhasan seva, sachkhand room seva, ethahisk gurdwara seva, seva of shastars, seva of sri guru granth sahib ji, sri dasam granth sahib, seva of sarbloh granth, seva of jor meelas, seva of shoes- whats their fate? are they suppose to widen their surti and aim for kaival mukhti to realize self or naam? or are they not accepted just as it is in maharaj sachkhand -baikhunt darbar after they die where they serve guru maharaj more and give up their ego to be merged finally with nirankar, above from reincarnation.

11 hours ago, Lucky said:

 

I aim to get to grips with this topic because it gets too confusing for me with the other definitions. Somehow, i felt that the house of nanak taught us not to get wrapped up with heavens and in saroopya, sampiya muktees etc..  My impression was that we should just focus on direct Nirankar kaival mukti using nanak naam jahaz hai for immediate transformation.  Correct me if i'm wrong or if i've had the wrong end of the stick all this time. But every time I try and start learning the mukhtis, my mind forces me to switch off and says just focus on absolute?  This is why i suggested a dummy's guide may be a good idea for me to digest.

 

 

It comes back down to sargun bhakti and nirgun bhakti in sikhism, as they are both accepted in gurmat. One can see it as development stage from sargun into nirgun or one can see them as aspects of nirankar and serve aspects(sargun and nirgun) of nirankar whatever resonates with them or whatever one is receptive towards. Hence, various different levels of mukhti based on bhagat, one literally sees sachkhand as place -baikhunt by keeping their individuality - doing bhagti there. Are they not accepted?. Yes we should all aim for kaival mukhti but those are serving physical guru, shastars, devotion towards ritual are just as accepted.

I mean how else one can explain myraid different ways of devotion in Sikhism- be it langar seva, seva, sri guru granth sahib ji seva, seva of shastars, arti-arta, seva of various granths, various different recitation of gurbani, shabad meditation, kirtan bhakti, meditation of self-gyan etc etc.

I also lean and aim towards kaival mukthi. But seeing various different diversity within sikhism. I've came to understanding its just not as clear cut.

Just wondering if there any sikh psychologist on this forum, if so,  tell us about your experience being psychologist- what are some of cases and crisis situations you have to deal with in daily life? what are common issues people have?

How do you incorporate sikhi teaching into your daily profession?

To all Naam abhiaasi-meditation practitioners--share your most profound epiphany here if its not private, could be epiphany-insight/anubhav , gurbani arths from meditation.

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Silence is of four kinds: silence of speech, silence of the eye, silence of the ear, and silence of the mind. Only the last is pure silence and is the most important. The commentary of silence is the best commentary as illustrated in Lord Dakshinamurti. Only silence is the eternal speech, the one word, the heart-to-heart talk. Silence is like the even flow of electric current. Speech is like obstructing the current for lighting and other purposes.

Ramana Maharshi, Sri Ramana Reminiscences

 

22 minutes ago, Singh123456777 said:

Just do it

haha nice one,  yeah man. If you are married, just do it..thinking about it causes suffering, causes more desires-ensues more karma, the problem is wider society made sex so trivial, everyone is thinking about it more than doing it without thinking but in reality need for it is similar to eating, one eats food, becomes one with food the cycle continues, thats it not even more second is spend thinking about it.

Has anyone heard of someone taking rebirth either in literature or katha because  need of food? NO!!, sex is same thing, its biological need for humans, its not the sex causes karma/samsara-suffering/rebirth its just the desire for it/thoughts about it causes future wheel of suffering in birth and death.

According to my understanding, suniya would be just listening to one intuitive awareness in stillness/ silence/quietness when mind is quiet in meditation

Whats the difference atam ras and naam ras?