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4 hours ago, paapiman said:
What about Kaival Mukti? Can a Brahamgyani keep his body?
Bhul chuk maaf
Kaival Mukhti is another name for jevan mukht and bedah mukht.
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Mukhti is broken into of five types.. four are sargun mukhti listed in gurbani tukhs below.
chaar mukath chaarai sidhh mil kai dhooleh prabh kee saran pariou ||
I have obtained the four kinds of liberation, and the four miraculous spiritual powers, in the Sanctuary of God, my Husband Lord.
mukath bhaeiou chouhoo(n) jug jaaniou jas keerath maathhai shhathra dhhariou ||1||
I am liberated, and famous throughout the four ages; the canopy of praise and fame waves over my head. ||1|| Ang- 1105
1.Salokya Mukhti- in which the devotee gains a place in the realm of one ishatdev or attainment of the salok given by ishatdev mentioned.
2. Sarupya Mukhti – in which devotee obtains heaven and same bodily qualities as Sargun Vahiguroo (avtar , isher or deity roop)
3. Samipya Mukhti- leads not only to divine virtues but a god (isher/sargun) god like form.
4. Saujya mukhti- There is unity through immersion without losing one's own identity -Fish(Bhagat) in a ocean.
Bhramgyan/Kaival Mukhti- No distinction as there is no perception of individuality of being-fish/bhagat in a ocean or even a ocean itself, for understanding purposes- its actually only ocean - Supreme Consciousness Awarenes - bhramgyan- self realization of real self/nirgun saroop. nothing else.!!
For more information- Listen to Sant gyani gurbachan singh khalsa bhindranwale katha of gurbani.
There is no difference between kaival mukhti and jevan mukhti/bedah mukhti in terms of avastha, avastha is same only difference - jevan mukht is bhramgyani who retains the body for benefit the human kind-turiya avastha and bedah mukht who goes in full maha smaadhi (turiya atit avastha) leave the body, becomes bedah because body cannot retain fully maha samadhi body gives up naturally. There are stories of mahapursh whose followers were forcefully feeding mahapursh who has gone in turiya atith avastha just to keep the body alive for darshan, they know there is no coming back to normal conscious but to have followers darshan of body for couple of months.
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Book is called Jivan Kirane.
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On 1/1/2018 at 4:03 PM, Lucky said:
Beautiful explanation.
ਕਬੀਰ ਜਾ ਦਿਨ ਹਉ ਮੂਆ ਪਾਛੈ ਭਇਆ ਅਨੰਦੁ ॥
Kabīr jā ḏin ha▫o mū▫ā pācẖẖai bẖa▫i▫ā anand.
Kabeer, on the day when i die(my mind dies), afterwards there shall be bliss.then the slok continues with...
ਮੋਹਿ ਮਿਲਿਓ ਪ੍ਰਭੁ ਆਪਨਾ ਸੰਗੀ ਭਜਹਿ ਗੋੁਬਿੰਦੁ ॥੬॥
Mohi mili▫o parabẖ āpnā sangī bẖajėh gobinḏ. ||6||
I shall meet with my Lord God. Those with me shall meditate and vibrate on the Lord of the Universe. ||6||The highest form of anand. Comes with the highest form of awareness.
Amazing, thanks for posting this shabad and your thoughts.
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Just now, MrDoaba said:
Yeah I'm not denying that bro. I even said the same thing in the asexuality thread. But to say it's a outright sin even in marriage, and that it's banned unless for procreation is kattarvaadi at it's finest, and not to mention has no basis.
This isn't Christian Victorian England. No need to be frigid and ashamed of sex.
Agreed 100%
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Lot of people, couples after some level of awakening reports decrease in sexual activity naturally as they are more connected with inner subject/seer/consciousness/atma/chaitna than outside object, but at the same time they also mention they live their life in harmony and in undivided way-everything is expression of life and consciousness (than personal ego I-claiming ownership) which means they are not divided within themselves with dilemma or doubts.
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Good find, will take a look in depth shortly.
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You can read jaap sahib-one of compositions we read every day, it has many names of lord. One of our saints wrote this while explaining esoteric mystery behind god's name:
source: http://www.akalbungasahib.com/babaji.html under God
He went on to say “Why have we invented so many names for God? There must be a certain reason, because God cannot be named, a name can easily be changed, but God remains the same. So why has God been addressed? Because there are moments when you would like to scream out your inner feelings to God in sheer joy. Some name is needed. Muslim Sufis invented ninety-nine names of God that are so beautiful, but why not a hundred? Ninety-nine looks a bit incomplete. There is a certain reason the hundredth name is kept silent and that is the true name of God, which of course can’t be uttered. That is why Guru Nanak said ‘Satnam’. Your name is thee truth. But in reality you can’t utter it because it will lose its’ beauty. It remains un-uttered at the deepest core of the heart. What is God’s true name? Nobody knows that all the names are man’s creation. The true name of God is the existence that surrounds you.”
How can one call Him by all His names? The wise give him names according to His manifestations – Jap Sahib, Guru Gobind Singh Ji He goes on saying. “those kind (the irreligious) of people haven’t known anything of spiritual experience. They’ve never felt any presence of God. The only way to receive God is to drop all your searching and seeking. The real question is recognition, not search, and the only way to know God is to live God.”
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I will do ardas infront of maharaj and Be more present and receptive to divine hakum unfolding moment to moment, easy to say, very hard to do but with maharaj kirpa anything is possible.
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This pure enlightened jot(knowledge/being/awareness) already exist in all of us, according to gurbani. Our mind have to quite/silence to experience it or abide it in and function through until it effort becomes effortless, until realization of that dawns.
ਗਉੜੀ ਮਹਲਾ ੫ ॥ गउड़ी महला ५ ॥ Ga▫oṛī mėhlā 5. Gauree, Fifth Mehl:
ਅਗਮ ਰੂਪ ਕਾ ਮਨ ਮਹਿ ਥਾਨਾ ॥ अगम रूप का मन महि थाना ॥Agam rūp kā man mėh thānā.The Lord of Unfathomable Form has His Place in the mind.Ang-603ਮਨ ਰੇ ਤ੍ਰੈ ਗੁਣ ਛੋਡਿ ਚਉਥੈ ਚਿਤੁ ਲਾਇ ॥ मन रे त्रै गुण छोडि चउथै चितु लाइ ॥Man re ṯarai guṇ cẖẖod cẖa▫uthai cẖiṯ lā▫e. O mind, renounce the three qualities, and focus your consciousness on the fourth state.ਹਰਿ ਜੀਉ ਤੇਰੈ ਮਨਿ ਵਸੈ ਭਾਈ ਸਦਾ ਹਰਿ ਕੇ ਗੁਣ ਗਾਇ ॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ हरि जीउ तेरै मनि वसै भाई सदा हरि के गुण गाइ ॥ रहाउ ॥Har jī▫o ṯerai man vasai bẖā▫ī saḏā har ke guṇ gā▫e. Rahā▫o.The Dear Lord abides in the mind, O Siblings of Destiny; ever sing the Glorious Praises of the Lord. ||Pause|| -
Good question. From what i've understood- sri guru granth sahib ji addresses to atma/surat-awareness/consciousness(which in itself is gender less) of human being to recognize its own source- Man Tu Jot saroop hai apna mool painchain || , its updesh/discourse is gender less regardless of sexual orientation.
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On 2/18/2014 at 7:40 PM, Singh123456777 said:
It's sad that no gurduwara I know of in Toronto canada(gta) does aarti.
I was at rexdale gurdwara few years ago , they did arti including shaheedi degh
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bump, informative thread.
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Found this by eckhart tolle really helpful:
http://communicate.eckharttolle.com/news/2015/02/09/the-joy-of-being-is-the-joy-of-being-conscious/
The Joy of Being is the Joy of Being Conscious ByEckhart Tolle
Category: Books, Concsiousness, Creativity, Eckhart Tolle TV, Presence, Universe and EnlightenmentHere is a spiritual practice that will bring empowerment and creative expansion into your life. Make a list of a number of everyday routine activities that you perform frequently. Include activities that you may consider uninteresting, boring, tedious, irritating, or stressful. But don’t include anything that you hate or detest doing. That’s a case either for acceptance or for stopping what you do. The list may include traveling to and from work, buying groceries, doing your laundry, or anything that you find tedious or stressful in your daily work. Then, whenever you are engaged in those activities, let them be a vehicle for alertness. Be absolutely present in what you do and sense the alert, alive stillness within you in the background of the activity. You will soon find that what you do in such a state of heightened awareness, instead of being stressful, tedious, or irritating, is actually becoming enjoyable. To be more precise, what you are enjoying is not really the outward action but the inner dimension of consciousness that flows into the action. This is finding the joy of Being in what you are doing. If you feel your life lacks significance or is too stressful or tedious, it is because you haven’t brought that dimension into your life yet. Being conscious in what you do has not yet become your main aim.
The new earth arises as more and more people discover that their main purpose in life is to bring the light of consciousness into this world and so use whatever they do as a vehicle for consciousness.
The joy of Being is the joy of being conscious.
Awakened consciousness then takes over from ego and begins to run your life. You may then find that an activity that you have been engaged in for a long time naturally begins to expand into something much bigger when it becomes empowered by consciousness. Some of those people who, through creative action, enrich the lives of many others simply do what they enjoy doing most without wanting to achieve or become anything through that activity. They may be musicians, artists, writers, scientists, teachers, or builders, or they may bring into manifestation new social or business structures (enlightened businesses). Sometimes for a few years their sphere of influence remains small; and then it can happen that suddenly or gradually a wave of creative empowerment flows into what they do, and their activity expands beyond anything they could have imagined and touches countless others. In addition to enjoyment, an intensity is now added to what they do and with it comes a creativity that goes beyond anything an ordinary human could accomplish.
But don’t let it go to your head, because up there is where a remnant of ego may be hiding. You are still an ordinary human. What is extraordinary is what comes through you into this world. But that essence you share with all beings. The fourteenth-century Persian poet and Sufi master Hafiz expresses this truth beautifully: “I am a hole in a flute that the Christ’s breath moves through. Listen to this music.”
Excerpted from Eckhart Tolle’s A New Earth, pages 299-300. To access more of Eckhart’s teachings on the joy of Being, click here for this month’s episode of Eckhart Tolle TV.
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On 10/7/2004 at 9:35 AM, Mehtab Singh said:
I am sorry...its my mistake...the shabad is by Guru Arjan Dev Jee and not Bhagat Kabir Jee...
http://www.sikhitothemax.com/Page.asp?Sour...D=2050&Format=2
This Shabad is by Guru Arjan Dev Ji in Raag Dayv Gandhaaree on Pannaa 534
dhaevaga(n)dhhaaree 5 ||
a(n)mrithaa pria bachan thuhaarae ||
ath su(n)dhar manamohan piaarae sabhehoo madhh niraarae ||1|| rehaao ||
raaj n chaaho mukath n chaaho man preeth charan kamalaarae ||
breham mehaes sidhh mun ei(n)dhraa mohi t(h)aakur hee dharasaarae ||1||
dheen dhuaarai aaeiou t(h)aakur saran pariou sa(n)th haarae ||
kahu naanak prabh milae manohar man seethal bigasaarae ||2||3||29||
Dayv-Gandhaaree, Fifth Mehl:
O Beloved, Your Words are Ambrosial Nectar.
O supremely beautiful Enticer, O Beloved, You are among all, and yet distinct from all. ||1||Pause||
I do not seek power, and I do not seek liberation. My mind is in love with Your Lotus Feet.
Brahma, Shiva, the Siddhas, the silent sages and Indra - I seek only the Blessed Vision of my Lord and Master's Darshan. ||1||
I have come, helpless, to Your Door, O Lord Master; I am exhausted - I seek the Sanctuary of the Saints.
Says Nanak, I have met my Enticing Lord God; my mind is cooled and soothed - it blossoms forth in joy. ||2||3||29||
This Gurbani Vaak along with the Gurbani Mahavak below:
Ang-291
ਜਬ ਹੋਵਤ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਕੇਵਲ ਧਨੀ ॥
जब होवत प्रभ केवल धनी ॥
Jab hovaṯ parabẖ keval ḏẖanī.
When there was only God the Master,ਤਬ ਬੰਧ ਮੁਕਤਿ ਕਹੁ ਕਿਸ ਕਉ ਗਨੀ ॥
तब बंध मुकति कहु किस कउ गनी ॥
Ŧab banḏẖ mukaṯ kaho kis ka▫o ganī.
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13 minutes ago, sarabatam said:Ang-278
ਜਬ ਇਹ ਜਾਨੈ ਮੈ ਕਿਛੁ ਕਰਤਾ ॥
जब इह जानै मै किछु करता ॥
Jab ih jānai mai kicẖẖ karṯā.
As long as this mortal thinks that he is the one who does things,ਤਬ ਲਗੁ ਗਰਭ ਜੋਨਿ ਮਹਿ ਫਿਰਤਾ ॥
तब लगु गरभ जोनि महि फिरता ॥
Ŧab lag garabẖ jon mėh firṯā.
he shall wander in reincarnation through the womb.This is key Guru Maharaj updesh, as long as mortal thinks he/she is doer that causes further fragmentation/identification with separate I-personal ego I and separate desires and actions of personal I that further ensues karma be it good and bad that determines next birth, current life situations/birth.
This from Sant Jagjit Singh Harkhowale katha:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Raag means-individualistic love/attachment/desires with ego, Dvaish- partiality/dualistic mindFrom Avidya(ignorance that this jiv is separate) everything is born.Here is the cycle-From Avidya (ignorance this jiv is seperate) - ego is born.From ahankar (ego) doership is born then- raag and dvaish is bornFrom Raag and Dvaish- karams are bornAnd from Karam, this individual jev(person) goes through cycle rebirth/reincarnation of seperations from Vahiguroo.Here is Same cycle shown reversed in order to go back to our real self-If one does not wish to have sorrow in future, have a genuine desire not be born seperated again from Vahiguroo.If you have desire not be born seperated again from Vahiguroo, don't do karams with your individualistic mind affected with ego.In order not to do karams with your individualistic mind- don't do raag dvaish.In order not to do raag dvaish- rise above from egoistic mind.In order not to have egoistic mind- learn internal bibek with buddhi(intellect). Buddhi(intellect-pure cognitve perception) other end is atmaIn order to have true internal bibek, use bhramgyan(knowledge of real self) to destroy avidya.~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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This is very interesting pal veer, mangals above can be seen as stages in gurmat.