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Waheguru ji ka Khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh

what is the length and width required for dumalla dastar and for bunga sahib for females and which cloth material is the best to tie the dastar. 

Is their any specific difference between men and women’s dastar. Any difference between length and width or the style of tying the dastar. 

Thanks 🙏🏻 

@Sat1176 So does it mean that if I'm not baptised my bhagti is of no use. In that video baba ji says people do lots of bhagti who r not baptised but their simran or bhagti has no power so it's mandatory to Amrit shakna thn the real bhagti starts. I'm not baptised and I won't get baptised until I know that I'll be able to keep the rehat of Amrit 100% but I love doing simran and path so does it mean it's not approved by waheguru ji. That was kinda heart breaking ?

I've been also experiencing strange dreams from past two three days and last night I had a dream in which I got hit by a truck and I was screaming but after that I woke up and realised that was a dream. But it felt like I was literally there. Like can't understand if this life is a dream or dreams are the real life ??‍♀️ and in all the dreams I feel like I AM THERE I don't know how to explain the feel. Before I use to have dreams as well but they weren't so intense like these dreams that I'm having and it's been three days I'm continually having some kinds of dreams and they make no sense to me. And due to these dreams I'm not being able to concentrate on my simran, on my god. Everything has been disturbed. ?

On 7/23/2014 at 3:29 PM, Sat1176 said:

 

 

For the past couple of days the air is flowing through both my nostrils much more frequently and for longer periods of time. It is a very cold sensation and you can literally feel the air passing up through the nostrils and between the eyes and up between the eyebrows and into the forehead. When I close my eyes to do simran it does feel as if I'm able to jap from deeper within my own consciousness. But the cooling sensation felt at the trikuti region is quite distracting at the moment. I find my dhyaan constantly shifting to this location rather than being able to focus on the jap within. When I just relax I can feel a pulling sensation. Very strange in deed.

I wonder how this works the breathing process because I have no knowledge about this at all. Like when u do simran with breathing technique u take long deep breaths and thn say wahe-guru or can it be normal breathing and thn do it. I wish I could see someone doing it and thn get a better idea. Isn't there any video related to this. I've tried doing both ways long breath in  thn little pause thn long breath out. And thn just like we breathe normally but concentration more on the breathing and try to match wahe - guru with it. The long breaths makes me uncomfortable can't do it for too long but with the normal breathing and doing simran is better thn other but not easy at the same time. Any suggestions for me would be really appreciated. 

3 hours ago, Sat1176 said:

Bhen ji,

There are definitely quotes in gurbani that state one should do simran whilst performing your daily work. It is perfect way of keeping the mind focused and not wondering on useless thoughts.

However to reap the full effects of naam simran, one should spend some time in focused dhyan with eyes closed. Only then will the mind go inwards and the journey truly begin.

As for bypassing Verbal japa and going straight to saas saas and mental simran, it really depends on your avasta. Are you able to listen and focus on the dhun of the gurmantar be said in the mind or does your mind wonder? The key point it where is your dhyan when doin simran, has it escaped through the eyes and focused on external objects or it inside the body listening to the Dhuni of the gurmantar.

Hope that answers some of your questions.

God bless

 

When I'm doing other works I say it loud and listen to it but when I sit down and eyes closed thn i can do it internally and concentrate easily but yes sometimes mind wavers but thn again I bring my mind to where it should be and continue doing it. But I'm finding it hard to match breath in and out while doing it loud. I don't know I'm confused now. And can't talk to anyone about this because nobody knows these things. I didn't even knw that there are these techniques and one should follow to keep mind stable. The only problem I'm facing is matching my breath but Im able to concentrate my mind while I do Simran. But I'll keep trying to do with inhale and exhale method as well. Hopefully god will help me. Thank u so much for the reply ??

On 4/18/2017 at 7:30 PM, Sat1176 said:

Bhen-ji,

The first post in this thread explains ajapa quite well like Jaikara already mentioned.

Saas-Giras as per my understanding means japping the gurmantar with every breath which is the ultimate sustenance of the body to function in this world. However it has few stages. It starts with verbal jappa out aloud. The technique that I was taught was to say "Wahe" - slight pause - then say "Guru". They key here is that you must listen attentively to what you have just said and the sound of your own voice. At this stage don't worry about synchronizing with the breathing. Just worry about saying it in two parts and concentration on what you are saying. With practice you may find your own natural rhythm with the breath, or breath synchronizing in some form with the words. This stage is also referred to as "Bhakri". This stage needs to be done for a significant amount of time till you find your mind beginning to listen attentively without running off thinking other things.

When you can see that the mind is becoming more focused on the sound of your own voice, and it's mental chattering is significantly diminishing then you can slowly begin to lower the volume till you get to a whispering stage so that there is still some dull audible sound coming from the mouth which you can hear. This will require greater effort of concentration. Once again test your mind. If you find that the mind wonders off in other directions and does not sit and listen to the jaap then you can try for a little longer to make it settle otherwise return to step one where you increase the volume a bit more till it starts to listen again.

This leads saas-giras to include a state called saas-saas. With this stage you start by whispering the gurmantar "Wahe" with inhale and  "Guru" on exhale, where either the Guru being a little louder or same volume as "Wahe" part. You will have found that when doing simran out aloud in the first stage of saas-giras it is next to impossible to say "Wahe" and inhale at same time but saying Guru when exhaling was easy. The only natural way of talking or producing any sound is when exhaling. Because with saas-saas you are whispering, it becomes easier to say Wahe properly when inhaling with the breath. With saas-saas you should find that the mind also begins to jap along with the whisper. However your attention must always remain on the sound of whisper or of the voice of the mind japping. If you find your thoughts returning again and mind wondering off then try and bring attention back on to the whispering sound or revert to earlier stage. Key point to note is that the mouth should only be slightly open when doing saas-saas and you should be breathing through the mouth. This stage is also referred to as "Madhma"

When you have become adept at this stage one can try and leave the breath synchonisation and just focus on the mental jaap sound alone. This stage is also called "Pasanti".

Ajapa jaap means japa without effort (A-japa) and is the end state of saas-giras where the mind has now gone into autopilot and is japing at it's own speed without you forcing it recite, i.e. without any kind of will power. It's a very advanced stage and requires a lot of effort in the earlier stages and above all Waheguru's kirpa.

 

jo saas giraas Dhi-aa-ay mayraa Har Har so gursikh guroo man bhaavai.

One who meditates on my Lord, Har, Har, with every breath and every morsel of food - that GurSikh becomes pleasing to the Guru's Mind.

In the above pangti you will see the name Har repeated twice. Why? This is a reference to saas giras in that what is being emphasized here is one Har on inhale and the second Har on exhale.

 

Its taken years of searching, reading and "Saadh" sangat just to learn the contents of this one post. If it helps you, and you start walking on the path of simran, sooner rather later, without having to waste anymore time first trying find out these teachings on the path of naam simran then it will have been worthwhile.

Happy japping and god bless you on your journey.

I'll be grateful if u can answer my few questions. Like u said when saying wahe guru, at first don't have to focus much on the rhythm with breath in and out. It'll automatically sync. So can I do this while doing house work as well like washing dishes etc or do I have to sit down and thn do it and is it ok if I do it in my mind and not saying it loud because saying in my mind I find it easy and breathing in and out thru nose.  Because this is the way I'm being able to and find it easy to do and sync thru nostrils and saying wahe-guru in my mind rather thn doing it loud because as u said it's not easy to say wahe while breathing in. And while doing Simran at Amritvela is there any specific timings for how long should I be doing it. Like is it okay to do it for 20-30 mins or have to do more thn two hours or even longer thn that. 

On 7/23/2015 at 3:05 PM, Sat1176 said:

 

Can someone plz tell me about bhucho wale sant. Like their history or anything else related to them plz ji. 

On 4/14/2009 at 11:29 PM, Matheen said:

Satnaam.info is the official site of the cult led by Narinder Grewal, the site is maintained by his chela - Harjit Lakhan. Just search for Grewal's name here, there was a lot said about him some years ago. They've dressed up the site and removed controversial material but it's all a trap.

 

Sarbloh has too many blatant lies to be taken seriously, some of them quite offensive to certain goups. Most of it is very poor 'research' but a few bits are ok.

On 4/14/2009 at 11:44 PM, SAadmin said:

When i was rookie in sikhi, I grew up in sikhi reading harjit singh lakhan poems on his website. I cannot beleive how he became of chela of this individual who insulted sri guru granth sahib ji maharaj very bluntly in Toronto. As a result, he ran away, shaved his head. Please invite harjit lakhan here. There are many ex- narinder students who can open his eyes for him.

 

I also like to state the reason why general sikhs public are going to hostile so called sikh cults like- radhaswamis, nirankaris because to see spiritual side of sikhi which to be honest our gurudwara committee failed to provide. For eg- have you ever been to buddhist temple? Amount of shanti that resides there because of people meditating is unbeleiveable and resonance of their mantar resonates the building. I have yet to experience such resonance in Gurdwara...only thing close to that, is pooranmachi at nanaksar. Thats about it. This is unfortunate because tat gyan in sikhi is much deeper than whats being shared in gurdwara sahib abroad to regular joe blow singhs like us. As a result, sikhs go somewhere else to quench their thirst. Massive adhyatamic parchar along with slowly soothing simran chanting has to be done in gurdwara's to avoid suitaion like this happening again.

I need some more info on satnaam cult and if u know their previous students who I can contact. It's really urgent plz it will be great if u can help in any way because there is someone who's in their sangat and being brainwashed but somehow she understood things. But needs to clear few things about how to get back from them and if they do something wrong or bad o the person who doesn't want to be a part of their cult anymore