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11 hours ago, Mooorakh said:

 

Thank u so much ji

What to say.. this video made my situation even worse.. cos till now I was under the impression that all I need was his acceptance/ permission but if maryada says that he has to take it alongwith 

Only a miraculous Kirpal can help me now.. practically as per present scenario I am gone, it's impossible. 

Anyway pls pray for me ,is all I can say. Thank u all again for supporting. Atleast now I know m not wrong or stupid in asking or talking about Sikhi

Bhen ji don't feel low here listen to this track by sant maskeen ji on the subject

http://kam1825.podbean.com/e/can-someone-take-amrit-without-their-partner/

@Mooorakh bhen ji here is a audio katha track i found on the issue by sant maskeen. This is the best advice i have found so far on the subject. 

Bhen ji try to listen to it

http://kam1825.podbean.com/e/can-someone-take-amrit-without-their-partner/

8 hours ago, Mooorakh said:

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The Effects of Bowing Jaap Sahib Kriya

Posted July 21, 2016 by Siri Singh Sahib Ji & filed under 10-Guru Gobind Singh, Bani, Lectures-Siri Singh Sahib.

Excerpts from Siri Singh Sahib, Yogi Bhajanlecture at Khalsa Women’s Training Camp (KWTC) in 1983

If God is not alive in you, you are not alive on this earth.  For centuries and centuries you have been taught wrong, and the result is God has become outside of you and you have become outside of God.  Let’s get out of it the way Guru Gobind Singh says.  His version is to bow to all aspects of God, every aspect.  First he prays, to bring the invocation of God, ture and clear, then he bows.  If you can proceed in that rhythm, you can find that oneness

What we are going to do now is chant with Jaap Sahib. When you utter the word “namastang” touch your forehead to the ground, and by the time the phrase finishes you should be straight up. Your hands should be on your thighs please, not on the ground. We are going to experiment today. We are going to show you how effective it is. This is how I learned Jaap Sahib. Do it with devotion. “Namo is the same as “namastang.” Copy it! Become sharp. There is nothing in Jaap Sahib you have to learn. It is a naad

I’m telling you how Guru Gobind Singh uplifted his people who were crippled mentally and physically and downgraded to the extent that if somebody sat on the ground less than two and a half feet from a Moghul, his punishment was to be beheaded. If a soldier spit at you and if you didn’t catch the spit, you could be beheaded. Ten, twenty, a hundred thousand men were picked up and their blood was fed to the emperor’s hounds. That was the price of life. Men sitting normally doing a normal chore were picked up to be mincemeat, so that the hunting lions of the emperor could be fed. These were the times and this was the state of affairs. That was the rule of tyranny then. There was no appeal there was no life. After a couple of hundred years, a movement started where man began elevating and becoming conscious and becoming visible to God, and God became visible to man. And when the victory came, that is when Guru Gobind Singh used the praise of the Lord in naad. That is what is beautiful about Jaap Sahib: it raises the soul and the self of the being. And that is what we are talking about. I’m just trying to give you the experience as I learned Gurbaani, and I learned yoga, and I learned Kundalini Yoga

I know you don’t want to develop yourself. Because you are afraid that you will be in a high position and you will mess up because of the terrible training you have had. You have been made to love ugliness; it’s not your fault. You are all educated, you are all beautiful and there is no reason that you should feel ugly at any time. It is society which has made you ugly

I remember that the most powerfully effective way is to copy Jaap Sahib, because you are not copying the words, you are copying the creative essence of the word, the naad. There is no other way that you can learn about sensitivity. If you can practice this meditatively, then whatever people say, you will always compute what people mean. It will give you a totally different dimension. It will take away unawareness, foolishness and nonsense. What a person is saying and what he actually means are two different dimensions. And that is what I want you to experience

Jaap Sahib is not just to praise God. To praise God is the way we have been taught. It’s the oldest method, because man wanted to be with God and so he was told to pray and meditate. That is where I differ. I have experienced and I believe that these things are there to make us highly sensitive, absolutely creative and extremely intuitive. It doesn’t matter how rich you are, how healthy you are or how good you are. It doesn’t matter if you have all faculties of life which you want to have, if you are not intuitive, you are dumb. That’s where the buck stops. That’s where pain comes, that is what I’m trying to take you past. For that you need new blood. That’s why we are doing these exercises, so that the glands can work

Jaap Sahib is Guru Gobind Singh’s bani. It comes from the third center of balanced naad.  You have to understand one thing. The Sikhs of Guru Gobind Singh were in a position to run at the speed of a horse. What was the miracle that gave them such power? Jaap Sahib. Jaap Sahib gives you the strength of the mind behind every muscle of you. And if we have to change, take the Name of God everywhere, with every breath. This is how we can do it. The Name should be in us and we should recite it, we should be with it, and we should become it. And that is the way to be spiritual. Everything you do should be right from your spirit, and your spirit should be in it. That’s the way you can succeed. Nothing else will work it out. You understand?

That’s why he recited Jaap Sahib. This bani is a gift to you to use when your grace, your power, and your position are threatened. Whoever will recite this bani shall never fall flat on his face. That’s why an ordinary bunch of bones could fight with thousands and thousands of armed, trained soldiers and defend themselves beautifully; because they had the spirit with them

Jaap Sahib is the salutation to God in which Guru Gobind Singh recites every facet of God. As many facets as have been explained there, that many facets as a person you have to cover in your life. That’s what Jaap Sahib is. You have to deal with each facet, but if you want to do that, you require about 250 living years to learn, practice, experience and project each facet. I don’t think we have that time. So basically, the idea of the mantra is, it gives you the key to the opening of that hemisphere where you want to be. That’s what Jaap Sahib does and when you do it with these exercises, it will keep you healthy, happy and holier than you can think. You can enjoy life

Now, there is another thing in Jaap Sahib which you might not have ever understood; that is “Ek Achree Chand. ‘ (ajai alai) If you verbally remember it, mentally remember it, and you can verbalize it mentally, it doesn’t matter, what your karmas are, or who you are, if you can remember it and recite it eleven times, there is nothing that you need as a graceful woman which shall not be bestowed upon you by the hand of God. Not by any human being; no human being can give you anything anyway. “Ek Achree Chand” is in Jaap Sahib. It’s one chant only, it’s not very long….but God is bound in each word

If our mind is not pure and clean, we cannot deal with life. It is a simple thing, deal with it on a simple level. You think that you have all the facilities you need so you can face life, but it’s not true. You may have all the facilities, but if your mind is not pure and positive, you can’t face the life. You have to understand this: it is the pure and the positive mind which will make life easy for you. All you want is an easy life, you don’t want to go through the problems and unnecessary rituals. Sometimes you do a lot of wrong things; it’s a total waste of a woman. You are not going to find out anything except that you are going to be hurt. If you want to live with your hurts and you want to cause yourself the hurts, that is a different science and a different theory. As far as I am concerned, no woman is meant to be hurt. I think that basically, we should not go for that

It is my feeling that if we really work hard on ourselves and flow with our own energy, we can penetrate through life successfully. Expecting somebody else to help you or to make you happy or feel good is asking for trouble. Rather, you should make yourself so happy that by looking at you, people should become happy. You do not understand your basics. Whether you are married or not, have children or not, basically you have to keep the entire dimension, the entire domain happy. That’s woman’s work. For a woman to reach God is as easy as for me to go from here to the ranch.  So that we would not become beggars at the doors of others and be insulted, Guru Gobind Singh became one with God and recited Jaap Sahib.

Very nice bhen ji thanks for sharing.

Here is a few katha tracks by gyani thakur singh on jaap sahib.

Jaap Sahib da kamaal --- Giani Thakur Singh ji ( Damdami Taksaal)

1 hour ago, Mooorakh said:

Ji. But y haven't u had it yet. Pls try n get it ASAP. 

Also pls edit Ur ans above to remove my pic .

Thanks

Bhen ji I have removed the link and the picture from your post in my quote of it.

I do want to take amrit and luckly with Waheguru's kirpa my nitnem banis is quite good. I just have a few a few loose strings left to finish before taking amrit. Like my mum said take it when you get career wise ready etc.

The other annoying thing is how people like from family friend etc tease people who are religious with pharses like granthi bhai etc. I get annoyed so I give rude answers back when someone says this to me. 

On 1/9/2019 at 9:51 AM, Mooorakh said:

Well m not sure ji because as per my understanding .. if I can't please my worldly husband how will I be able to please my real 'Pir'. I have promised to walk behind him in front of SGGS JI  . U may have met people who are in marriage where the other partner doesn't OBJECT to the first for the Amrit 

As for my husband he isn't very religious himself. But never denies taking me to Gurudwara Sahib or Kirtan Darbar. (Though teases at times-but that's ok.) 

He is  connected inside. .. simply spends 15 mins or so in Guru Sahib room everyday.

 

 

Bhen ji it does seem like a complicated situation from what you have mentioned. 

I myself have not taken amrit yet but with Waheguru's kirpa I know the panj banis and many other banis. 

So perhaps you can try to increase your paaths banis and show how desperately you would like to take amrit then maybe your husband will be happy for you to take it.